paulhanley

Johnston might be back for our next game though.

Yes and the Wigan home record is 6-4-8. You are right in your analysis. If you look at both fixtures and at our away record we ought to be on for something in both games. But what such analysis cannot account for is the way both clubs historically play out of their skins against us, way above their normal levels.

Right here's the full list of misery since we last won at Bloomfield Road on 27 December 1977. What's remarkable about this (and the fixtures at Bolton) is how close away wins have been only to be derailed very late in games or in odd/unusual circumstances. League 1985/6 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (last minute equaliser conceded) 1986/7 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (conceded an equaliser inside a minute of going ahead) 1988/89 Blackpool 2 Bolton 0 1989/90 Blackpool 2 Bolton 1 (conceded twice in the last few minutes - see FA Cup game in the same bloody season) 1992/3 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (conceded a late penalty equaliser 2010/11 Blackpool 4 Bolton 3 (late season Premier League, had to be 4-3! At least it didn't save them from relegation) 2012/13 Blackpool 2 Bolton 2 (twice ahead, twice conceded equalisers) 2013/14 Blackpool 0 Bolton 0 2014/15 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (late Chungy equaliser) 2019/20 Blackpool 2 Bolton 1 (got a very late equaliser, conceded an even later winner - a matter of weeks before COVID struck) 2023/4 Blackpool 4 Bolton 1 Cups 1988/89 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (Sherpa Van Northern Final, Bolton win on aggregate and invade the pitch, felt like a win but wasn't one) 1989/90 Blackpool 2 Bolton 1 (went ahead, conceded two late goals in front of the MOTD cameras with lots of wittering about 1953) 1990/91 Blackpool 3 Bolton 0 (Preliminary group game) 2016/17 Blackpool 4 Bolton 2 (League Cup) 2023/24 Blackpool 0 Bolton 0 (Pizza Cup - Counts as a draw but Blackpool won the pens) I make that Won 0 Drawn 8 Lost 8 altogether and Won 0 Drawn 6 Lost 5 in the league. The only saving grace is they've got an equally dismal record at Burnden/Horwich over the same period (since their last win in 1986 we've W 10 D 5 L 0 in all competitions) Surely this has to end soon? Saturday 29 March would be a great time for it to happen.

DIsagree. The clock starts ticking for SS in the summer. He needs a transfer window. But these derby results are massively depressing regardless of who the manager is.

I find these derby results so incredibly depressing. Other than Blackpool at home nothing seems to be able to stem this dismal tide of shit. We just seem wide open to every small time detractor we have, gleefully collecting results to remember. When will it end.

Has to be JDC or Desmond. No Murphy on the bench either.

The club needs to bear in mind the depths to which it stooped at Stockport in November. Not the current management set up at fault of course, but we need to recoup some lost pride on Saturday.

I think the majority of central defenders in a squad need physique. We lack it all over the pitch to be honest. Midfield certainly needs addressing in that department. This is a real Evatt legacy issue.

Hard to really assess, certainly not a disappointing appointment. Naturally as a fan you think: "Good knowledge of the continent = some decent foreign signings further down the line". It's certainly a departure from the recent past.

Well I was barely even primary school age when the incident happened and wouldn't yet have been taken to a BWFC match. Yet in the eyes of the Bloomfield Road intelligentsia I will be a "murderer". It's appreciated that it was a horrendous incident. It can even be appreciated why a serious grudge has been borne by a generation of their support. However when you are smearing fans who weren't even born at the time then you are patently trying to stir animosity and trouble. I have to admit to some degree their attitude has had the desired effect on me. I can't abide them, they rank higher for me than the likes of PNE and Burnley and on a par with Blackburn. I suspect it has far, far less influence on those in younger age groups. Let's hope we finally end the win drought we've had at their ground and send home sulking.

As archetypal a thread as it would be possible to find on a Blackpool forum about BWFC. Inevitably we are referenced as "murderers". https://avftt.co.uk/index.php?threads/bolton-allocation.60403/

These absolutely love to trot out the line that they've never lost at the Reebok (four games, two draws, two defeats for us). They also of course nowadays have the 5-0 and 5-3 to witter on about. Be good to put all that to rights and then rest and refresh before taking it to Blackpool and Wigan.

55 miles from Banbury so not local but not a massive distance either.

Rutland.

Hopefully with SS we'll be more prepared for their dark arts. Promotion is the aim, but wins against them two and Stockport would be a big boost for all of us.

Rotherham being re-arranged means Stockport/Blackpool/Wigan consecutive fixtures (albeit with a gap between the first two). Play like last night we'll smash all three. If only it were that simple.

Gearing up at Gloomfield already https://avftt.co.uk/index.php?threads/bolton-at-home.60317/

Those who had not yet bought in to the Schumacher era will be on the road to being true believers now. A tremendous result. They can say Brum had injuries but we've got a few out too. I liked the comments from SS in his interview along the lines of "It's alright having the quality but you need the industry and effort". Ally that to his tactical flexibility and this is all a world away from the one-dimensional world we had before. COYWM!

I wonder if they might go back to Leam Richardson. Either way that whole groundhog day scenario of Maloney's tactical cuteness versus Evatt's stubborn naivety is now gone for good.

I'd always support Rangers when the Old Firm derby comes around but that's as far as it goes. I shan't be carrying BWFC/Rangers flags or getting involved in all the politics/sectarianism.

Not sure I'd ever seen Bob Latchford's goal in the infamous 1977 League Cup Semi Final Second Leg at Burnden. A gate of 50000 plus and what a let down. If this goal is on tape you wonder if the whole game is stored away somewhere as well.

There's so much more normality, common sense and pragmatism about the place now. The nightmarish groundhog days scenarios/defeats seem to have been banished. I'm really interested to see how we fare in these next two games v Wrexham and Birmingham and it looks increasingly hopeful that when it comes to Stockport/Blackpool/Wigan, the white flag isn't going to go up. Well done to all concerned on that showing today. It feels like Bolton Wanderers again.

Now there is a chant you never hear any more. Used to be very week at Burnden. "Oh when the whites go marching in. I wanna be in that number. Oh when the whites go marching in". Even the old folk joined in when that one rang around

Had a quick look back for games played on 18 Feb. Who remembers a home FA Cup tie v West Ham in 2006. An absolutely vast and very loud away following of Hammers. It finished 0-0 with them winning the replay. Rare for them to get any type of result v us at the Reebok in them days even though in that period they always had the hoodoo over Blackburn. Remember it being a freezing cold day, windswept. My mind might be playing tricks but I think they had the whole South Stand. Three days earlier we'd played Marseille at home in another 0-0. For those with somewhat longer memories 18 Feb 1978 saw us draw 2-2 at Oldham (Reid, Whatmore) in yet another 1970s attempt to get promotion to the top flight. This time we were successful but in mid Feb no doubt the big Blackburn/Fulham climax felt some way distant. With two points for a win a point away at Boundary Park wouldn't have been bad. I was at this game but very much primary school age so no clear memory other than us going as a family in a group of cars. On the way home one of the cars ploughed in to the back of another leading not unnaturally to a family row. Attendance listed as more than 20,000 which is hard to imagine given the modern day Boundary Park! I bet half of those were BWFC.

Next five games are big - all tough in their own way but Stockport at home is the one I'd like to win most. Their fans love to rattle on about how they've never lost at the Reebok and there's the 5-0 to avenge. Then, as you say, those two. No win at Bloomfield Road in 16 league and cup attempts since 1977. We all know about Wigan. SS is winning the fans gradually already - results in those three would cement it for him and represent progress from the Evatt era.