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Cant' see the odds online any more. As folk above have said I hope this is a sign that the job is now Schumacher's. If so, onwards and upwards.
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1 hour ago, HR said:
When did we last have two ex players managing against each other? Coyle maybe vs Allardyce?
I think probably Phil Brown v Owen Coyle happened at some point but would have to check back.
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Good man Julian Darby. Late on his career with us he had some rough times with the fans but even then he scored a couple of really crucial goals when Bruce got us promoted. This is a properly deserved little bonus for him fairly late on in his footballing career. One of our own and I bet he feels nine feet tall this evening. Chuffed for him.
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I think Big Sam would be a perfect director of football, on the board, linking between manager and directors, giving the benefit of his long experience not just of football but of Bolton Wanderers.
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Had a good look at all the names in the frame and had a chance to think a bit now the work day is done.
Schumacher has done nothing wrong in his managerial career. Nobody seems to make it stick at Stoke and he'd won as many games as he'd lost in the ridiculously short spell he was afforded.
As things stand he's my no 1 choice. I reserve the right to change my mind half a dozen times between now and breakfast tomorrow though 🙂
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Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:
Daft thing is, we're still well within a play off shout. If the new man can put out a modicum of consistency, then we've every chance of getting in them, and then who knows.
A free shot if you like, no one will be too worried if we didn't make it, given the start.
The new man then has time to assess in the summer and build accordingly.
Aye, you're right. It's just if by some miracle we got to the Championship with this squad I don't think we'd have enough time to evolve it to be ready for that level. It'd take a miracle worker.
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I appreciate people's warnings about Schumacher although I'd been warm to that idea initially. I think Wycombe are in for him too.
Gary O'Neil would be of interest.
If Tony Mowbray hadn't got a new job recently I'd have been keen on him
Ryan Lowe and Leam Richardson's stars have fallen a little bit of late.
Let's get someone in with a bit of experience under their belt this time. As a decently sized club with a good fanbase and an upward journey beckoning, we are surely entitled to that privilege.
I know people tend to scoff at Big Sam but if the club want a short-term caretaker while it considers its options I think he'd be perfect and he'd enjoy it. I also think he'd be up for a longer-term director of football style role and we clearly need someone with a footballing brain on that board. The amount of time its taken them to pot Evatt shows that!
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First time I've managed to get on here since seeing the news this morning.
What a blessed relief. I can start properly supporting the club again now.
We're at Ground Zero in some ways but that squad has talent in it even if it has no balance and has not been managed with any pragmatism. Short term the players just need someone to build their confidence and keep it simple for them.
We're not going up this year and we'd have been bombed out of the Championship if we'd beaten Oxford at Wembley. We need to focus on building a squad with lot of capabilities now, under the stewardship of a management team who are able to adapt and think laterally. It's all about hitting the ground running for 2025/26 season.
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I've just read in the BN that Evatt reckons players are "shocked" by the level of vitriol from the fans. In this one sentence he sums it all up.
What on Earth do you expect when you turn up as manager of Bolton Wanderers Football Club and get smashed 5-0 at Stockport and under-perform against a sequence of other clubs? We won't even get in to the abysmal consecutive non-appearances against Wigan.
They want to be in a comfort zone where there's little pressure from the support base or within. They want to be able to continue their little Pep/Jurgen wet dream, that attempts all the style at those clubs but none of the substance.
He says he understands and accepts the expectation at the club. He isn't even close to understanding it. The fact that he believes that results like Stockport 5 Bolton 0 and Bolton 0 Wigan 2 can be forgotten like a parent or teacher forgiving an errant teenager speaks more eloquently than anything. He thinks 32,000 of us going to Wembley for a pathetic no-show can be put down to experience and the slate can be wiped clean. Mr Evatt, it cannot. You delivered this bleakness and you have to pay the price for it. It is unacceptable.
When is the penny going to drop with you that you are are beyond redemption at BWFC and need to move on? When is the board going to realise the same thing? You are not capable of dealing with life at Bolton Wanderers, you are not cut from the right cloth, you don't have the necessary metal for the task. Go.
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Beat the pie-eaters 2-0 away this afternoon.
At least the lasses have some idea how to beat that shower.
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Not much to make me smile linked to my footballing affiliations just now but the ongoing circus at United definitely does. Long may it continue and long may their grotesque support base suffer.
The rags and Tottenham were definitely the two big clubs to slip in to the second tier in the 70s (although Villa did so too early in the decade). Could it happen again? Nah, too much dross at the bottom. But Postecoglu in particular seems to be giving it a good try. There are elements of the Evatts about him.
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1 minute ago, Whitesince63 said:
The problem with that 69 is that we’ll be on the fringe of promotion for the whole season if we stick with Evatt. If we seriously want it this year the board have to act now because there’s still more than enough time for a new manager, a new voice and a new system to make the play offs with this squad. Of course Sharon may have already conceded we won’t make it this year looking at some of the fixtures coming up so she probably concludes that financially it’s best to stick with what she’s got and give Evatt every chance. She holds the purse strings so she makes the choices. Wrong ones for me but they’re hers to make whatever we think.
In Spring we've got Stockport (h), Wigan (a), Blackpool (a). I don't see results in any of those given how spineless we are. That'll take toxicity up even further. That's when the axe is likeliest to fall.
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40 minutes ago, 1969 said:As soon as promotion (including play offs)are impossible he's gone
Should be potted now imo but he won't be
It's all just marking time.
He was lucky to get a second chance after the fiasco at Wembley. He bounced back from a poor start but then no Bolton Wanderers side should be going to Stockport and losing 5-0 or losing three times on the spin at home to Wigan. Full stop. Those things are unforgivable and quite frankly if Lazarus was the manager, he's not coming back from epoch making shit-shows like those.
The fact that the board and Evatt think they have immunity against events that besmirch our history such as these tells you a lot. They do not understand BWFC or its fanbase and they are not delivering what is required. That's hard work and a battling mentality when needed, pragmatism and the necessary skill. Most of all it means second tier football, not year after year of League One drudge and flat track bullying.
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Compare the way of managing injuries and fitness under Sam's time to this current shambles. Chalk and cheese - and Sam's time was 20 years ago, there'll have been advances since then. There's just no excuses.
Of course it doesn't help when we keep signing players who have a clear injury ridden track record.
Anyway, Santos. Not mentally strong enough or consistently good enough for the Championship. If he was there'd have been clubs in for him. Like in so many other areas it is time for the club to move on from this "project" and its components.
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9 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:
Haha tickled me that as it’s so true
Manny Road were fucking brutal at times
The hapless bloke on the microphone at half-time used to cop it a lot. Brutal, Boltonian humour.
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Comically inept. We should come out to the Fr Ted theme tune.
Sharon: We are right, you are wrong.
Evatt out.
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Wheeling and dealing is fine when one and two years in to a job. When you're five years in and you're selling players you bought and lauded - that's when the change a club really needs is the manger.
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Getting £750K for a 29 year old striker we paid £300K for three years ago is financially decent work.
Unless he's thinking CMG will actually stay fit and can play up top (or that Lolos can play there) we need a replacement. That's the fear. What on earth will he spend on next and how will he fit that person in to his system.
To use the modern day footballing parlance, this is a "project" that I long stopped believing in.
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6 minutes ago, gonzo said:
Won't be saying that when they beat us in the play off final in the last minute with a 347 pass move finished off by their star striker Kachunga followed by him running to our end waving his cock around singing Bolton get battered
They still wouldn't forgive him given his track record with the murderers.
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7 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:
This is an odd one, can't get much game time at Charlton. But O'Rourke is more ITK than most.
No doubt we'd turn him in to bloody Terry Thomas.
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20 minutes ago, Cheese said:
It really is a fucking disgrace that Tamworth don't get a replay at Tottenham.
Yep.
I understand the fixture congestion angle. However, they should have retained replays in the first three rounds or at the very least for the first and third given their significance as stages at which new tiers in the pyramid are introduced to the competition.
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I notice his big pal Rob Edwards got potted at Luton recently. All amidst their fans being hugely frustrated as to why he was doing the same thing over and over again and somehow expecting different results.
Albert Einstein meets Ian Evatt and his management buddies.
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21 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:
Can’t argue with him calling the players out they are mentally weak , selfish, lazy cunts
His players. His mess.
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He didn't "get grief for years". He did get grief for a spell in late 1991 and 1992 when Phil Neal's reign was turning sour and admittedly it was pretty grim stuff. I don't remember grief before that though. He scored a lot of goals (powerful daisy cutter shots and headers) and covered every blade of grass. Then under Bruce he got goals at Bournemouth (a) the game before the famous Hull match and the winner v Stoke at Burnden in the one before the PNE promotion game.
He's one of ours born and bred and he and his family will always remember yesterday. Let's enjoy it with him.