paulhanley
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Too early to say with any certainty. We will have a better idea by July. Promoted and relegated sides are particularly difficult to evaluate at such an early stage in the Summer.
I would tentatively say: Wigan won't break any pots, Charlton need to be taken seriously, Stevenage are in bother without Evans, Wycombe are dark horses with some renewed stability and pretty wealthy ownership.
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3 hours ago, gonzo said:
https://www.ft.com/content/6f0a407b-d3dc-4910-93d4-6f6624acf681
He's being done for insider trading apparently and closing one of the biggest hedge funds going.
A lot of people will want their money back one should imagine.
How this affects his personal fortune and BFC remains to be seen but you can't imagine it boding well.
Fans are getting restless as lack of on-field investment and season ticket price increase, however the spades are about to go in for their new training ground academy.
Never good to see a fanbase having to cope with problems not of their own making with an uncertain future beckoning.
.... but it's Blackpool. So fuck um.
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19 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:
If santos is as good as folk say surely a championship club will try an offer?
The fact that they haven't over the last 18 months or so speaks volumes.
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3 minutes ago, desperado said:
What are you going on about at half 6 in the morning?
Either there’s new info, in which case post the links.
Or it’s just more inane ramblings
Bolton Wanderers boss wants to improve key aspect of team | The Bolton News
Some of it is mentality.
But that's only part of the problem, as we all know.
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Apologies for posting a City goal with words from a rag (Mike Sweeney). But "it's a goaaaaaaaaal"
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8 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:
Yeah Bryon Butler was class as well, and yes Radio 2 in them days. I think you're right, they would have 2 commentators, they swapped half way through the half!
As I was usually at some level of football on a Saturday, and no Sunday games of course, I associate him with listening to midweek matches, often those glamorous European nights especially Liverpool. So evocative for a kid growing up who'd never been near those grounds.
He was only 60 when he died in 1990, should have been commentating throughout the 90s really. Apparently he collapsed covering the Boat Race. I can't remember the words obviously but it always stuck with me how incredible Jones made Ritson's goal sound, as if it was one of the biggest/best goals ever, like a Tardelli/Agueerrroooo moment at the time!
Not one of his commentaries but you will enjoy this. The 40th anniversary of Sports Report and he presented it. Lots of contributions from other great names from that era... provided you disregard Stuart Hall!
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27 minutes ago, wakey said:
I was thinking of that Chelsea game earlier.
Would have been "ooooohhhhhh nooooooo" when we conceded (unless we were playing another local team).
Aye. "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooo" covered about half the air time on Piccadilly that Saturday afternoon we got gubbed 7-1 on QPR's nasty plastic pitch.
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Sage Derby County
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Nicky Summer-Brie.
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49 minutes ago, Casino said:
when you think how sports coverage has come on, the midweek comms on radio 2 say it all
the programme would come on at 5 past 8 and you would just get the last hour
now its wall to wall in glorious HD
coverage is much better but the commentators have gone backwards, probably cos the talent is spread so thinly
Yes that'll be the issue, in those days you had Radio 2 and not much else. Even local radio was in its infancy.
You did only get second half commentary. Usually book-ended on Radio 2 by programmes devoted to easy listening/brass band/big band music. You don't hear that type of music much anywhere these days, When I do I'm reminded of Radio 2 in the 70s and 80s waiting for a football commentary or the midweek results. Often with imperfect/crackly reception.
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Since various posters have mentioned the two subjects of our cup games v Tottenham in early 1978 and the defenders John Ritson would have lined up with, let's combine the two and give Don McCallister a mention. A centre back who came through the ranks with Allardyce and Jones. Would have played with JR in the early 70s before we sold him to Tottenham for decent money.
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41 minutes ago, Zico said:
The point was the headline of the article saying dementia care is expensive so funding should be made available to ex footballers
I agree with the last sentence, but that's not the point either
Maybe we need to make a distinction between many modern day footballers who will make huge wealth over the course of their careers and the likes of John Ritson who made little more than blokes who did other jobs during their era.
The NHS doesn't provide social care - that's provided by councils. And if you've got more than about £25K in savings that are vast charges.
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8 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:
That's what I remember when I think of John Ritson. Except I wasn't there, it was a night match and it was live commentary on BBC (radio 2?). That great commentator Peter Jones described this shot of Ritson and as a kid he made it sound to me like a 40 yard pile driver hit like an exocet. The commentary was so evocative it made me want to go to the next Bolton game and watch Ritson play. I never saw him hit a pile driver in the few times I saw him! But he was such a dependable, bone fide full back, they don't make them like that now.
And they don't make commentators anything like Peter Jones but that's for another thread.
Peter Jones was the best there was or is every likely to be. There were others in his day like Bryon Butler and Larry Canning but he was the best of the lot. Would have loved to have heard his commentary on Ritson's goal. It would have been Radio 2 in those days. Two commentators and one co-commentator, often Dennis Law.
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9 minutes ago, Casino said:
Most notable goal was an ET winner free kick to knock Spurs out of the FA Cup
Ironic we got Tottenham in the cup in the same year we were in a promotion fight with them. A great 2-1 home win in front of a big attendance at a night match. It was a replay too.
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11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:
Think he scored a long range cracker at Mansfield the year we got promoted… very consistent and reliable full back…. Can’t remember him playing in the top flight the year after though.
Aye that's right. Only goal of the game. Without looking it up I'd say that game was in late winter/early spring just as nerves were kicking in after the two near misses for promotion. I think you are right re the top flight. But he did play in that last game of 77/8 v Fulham at home with 34000 on at Burnden. Check at 1:04 and you see Ritson come close with one of his long rangers
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2 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:
Ritson, Dunne, Allardyce, Jones in front of Seamus. Superb!!!
He certainly had a shot in him
Great servant to BWFC. Sad news
With Mick Walsh and Peter Nicholson all around in the same squad. Happy days.
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3 minutes ago, wakey said:
He used to take most of our free kicks anywhere near their box.
Hit the wall 9 times out of 10 from (my very young at the time) memory.
I may well be doing him a disservice, but that's what I remember most about him.
Sad news - horrible disease that.
It's tough to remember stuff from being very young.
Us hitting the wall is my main memory of all Bolton free kicks from just outside the box in the 70s to be honest!! Then you'd watch Glenn Hoddle on the telly and compare and contrast!
After doing the original post I remembered meeting John Ritson briefly at Holy Harbour. This would have been the early 80s after he'd called it a day. He was watching a Bolton Combination match in which an uncle of mine was playing.
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A long serving and really quality ex-right back of ours from the 70s (for those too young to remember). He's featured on the news this week with his daughter Chloe speaking out about her Dad's dementia and the wider subject of ex footballers and dementia.
I only saw the tail end of his career and my main memory of him wasn't his defensive but game but the fact he had a very powerful shot. I'm sure there are others out there who will have longer memories of him.
Here's his Wikipedia page for those who want his stats and some detail. He's 74 years old now and clearly has a good family around him.
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7 minutes ago, Zico said:
Said it already
We need 2 midfielders
Someone to replace Magohma who isn't Dempsey
And someone to protect and allow whoever it is and Sheehan to play their game who isnt GT
And either to be vocal and lead the team on the pitch who isn't Santos
Personally I think that'd be enough players wise
I agree. Two in midfield, different types to what we've got now, one of them a holding midfielder.
I'd also go after a new central defender - a high quality one. That way we can release Jones and Iredale to focus more on wing back. We know those two can play there if we get thin on numbers but Santos, Johnston, Forrester and Toal plus one other would do. The new one being an upgrade!
(If I had to pick one centre back from the last 20 years who'd be spot on for us in this particular side it'd be Tal Ben Haim. I know we'd never get a Prem level international but someone in that style)
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Just now, Whitesince63 said:
If IE stays then I’d go along with that Paul but if not I’d want him to stick round and see who comes in. We don’t play him the same as Burton did but if you look at his goals there about 12 from 15 were in and around the 6 yards box but he rarely gets there with Evatt’s system. Horse for courses I suppose?
Quite possibly. Players can certainly look very different when deployed in other systems under alternative managers.
.... what you're saying there however does beg the question why we signed the lad in the first place if he's not suited to our system!
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14 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:
Name one, they don't exsist in the modern game. I do agree we need a defensive midfielder.
There are many things about days gone by that don't apply in today's footy. We need a midfield bastard of the 2024 vintage, not Tommy Hutchinson, Gerry Gow, Graeme Souness or Terry Hurlock!
We need a leader/a talker in there who is able to be physical within the constrains of the modern day game but also to marshall us and stop us being out-generalled if the game starts turning against us. Just a bit of experience and know-how.
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1 minute ago, Whitesince63 said:
But isn’t that the problem with IE, everything is same as. Set up, system, substitutions, he likes two players for every position but they must be the same so when he does bring on his “finishers” it’s just like for like again. As you say we have no variety to be able to change it up. It’s great in one respect because it breeds continuity but it ain’t half frustrating when it’s not working and you know subs coming on won’t make any difference?
"No plan B"; "we need a midfield bastard"; "we bottle big games" ; "flat track bullies".
It was all said in Summer 2023. It's still being said in Summer 2024. You're right, summat has to change.
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Just now, Whitesince63 said:
If we kept the same system yes but if we just allowed strikers to be strikers and get in the box which is where Victor needs to be to do some damage you might see it differently. 🙂
I had the impression Victor was being pretty strongly linked with a move abroad in the January window. It would not surprise me one bit to see that being re-heated. If we get can 75% of what we paid for him I'd let him go.
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34 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:
Are they going to erect a temporary stand behind the goal for one season, before they return to Div 1.
Nah. Tinpot as fuck.
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Saved themselves late last season. Sold Wharton to Palace for a fortune to prop themselves up. They're treading water now.