paulhanley
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For those with longish memories these two second tier seasons might be at the fore of the mind just now given our start this season. Both seasons we went the first three games without a win.
93/4 was our first after promotion under Bruce. Started off with a 0-0 draw at Grimsby that could quite easily have finished 4-4. Alan Thompson made a very impressive debut on a hot day in front of about 4000 Wanderers fans. Then we had a 1-1 home draw at home to Stoke who'd been promoted with us. Owen Coyle scored his first for Bolton before they equalised. We then got hammered 3-0 at Charlton and wondered whether we were out of our depth. First win came in game 4 at home to Oxford, 1-0. Ended up being a mid table consolidation season with a fantastic cup run.
94/5 was an even worse start than the year before, even though we were all optimistic with our first foreign signings for years over that summer (Mixu, Sneekes, De-Freitas). One draw and two defeats. Another start at Grimsby, this time it did finish 3-3 with Mixu impressing on his debut. However we then had a dismal 0-2 home defeat to Bristol City and a 1-0 defeat in a hard fought match at Middlesbrough who eventually finished champions. Bryan Robson was their new manager, thousands turned out at Ayresome Park. Season ended up with promotion at Wembley against Reading. First win game in game 4, 1-0 at home to Millwall
Any memories out there of those two Augusts 19 and 20 years ago?
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This was always going to be a very hard start to the season but we do make life complicated for ourselves by going a goal down inside two minutes. We need to get that first win on the board and we need some defensive reinforcements before the deadline.
On the evidence thus far I'd say we're going to struggle to challenge for the play offs but it is very early days and Freedman is no mug.
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I stand by my statement that especially for the first half we played very well.
But it wasn't good enough.
... and since the goalpost wrecking antics in 1977 (the first game I remember against the Jolly Jockos) you rarely have been good enough. Wins in 1981, 1985 and 1999. Most other games have been England wins (only two draws I think).
Folk go on about Wembley - in my time of watching football, Scotland have won one in eight against England at Hampden.
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what the fuck is wrong with Ngog now I wonder?
I really do have very mixed feelings about that guy. Sometimes even within the space of one match.
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Jack Walker won the Premier League and the League Cup, Davies has won fuck all.
I can see why you might be supportive of Blackburn. People from Wigan and Blackburn have an awful lot in common.
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I agree with this. I wasn't being an arse for the sake of it (unusually for me
) My point is to be fair to Blackburn, rather than some faceless foreigners like City have, Walker was a local lad done good, as is ours, it's just the football world has changed enormously since Walker's ownership. It's just a shame those Warburton bastards didn't put their hand in their pocket more way back.Warby's out!
I think the Warby family would probably have to sell the business to have ready cash to spend on BWFC.
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And without Eddie Davies?
No question we wouldn't have done as well over the last ten years. However, in the mid 60s when the big changes happened in English football and the Lancashire teams began to drift away from the top flight, the only two sides to return were Burnley for 3 seasons in the mid 70s and Bolton from 78-80. Blackburn, nowhere to be seen.
I would also point out that Eddie Davies has nowhere near the wealth that Jack Walker had at his disposal.
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To be fair, Jack Walker found them what with him being a local lad.
Whichever way, his wealth gave that club and that town a status that was way above its normal station. Normal service is now resuming, and I am enjoying the show.
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Slightly wary of saying this given we've not won yet this season ourselves - but Blackburn have had this coming. They were jammy to find Jack Walker in the first place and ever since have had a falsely elevated position among local clubs. Bolton have always been a bigger club than Blackburn. If there is any justice they are on the brink of going through what we went through in the 80s. Their seemingly never ending run of good luck seems finally to have run out for keeps.
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2 weeks tomorrow could be fun if they don't turn up, especially if we have signed Rhodes by then
If they go in to that game with no wins I'll dread it. We always fuck up in that situation.
Let's hope we have a win by then!
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Doncaster a goal up v Blackburn.
Hope this stays the same. If they have a poor start they'll end up sacking another manager.
Anyway, gob shut, don't want to tempt fate.
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We were shit.
But we still beat the Jocks.
Almost better to beat them whilst being shit.
Fuck em. Scotch bastards.
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There's a few people being saying this about Gerrard at international level for some time. Compare him with the Spanish midfield, with Pirlo from Italy ... with the German central midfielders. Short, simple passing, comfortable in possession, rarely give the ball away. If Gerrard had been from those countries he'd have struggled to get 20 caps. He shows all the faults in English football
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Hitchin is a nice town, I'm considering moving there
Would highly recommend. Best place to live in that neck of the woods. Letchworth, Baldock, Royston etc .... all harmless but a bit boring.
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I could have warned you about that, it's fucking grim. If you have to go shopping then either Cambridge or Welwyn Garden City.........but I'd always choose Cambridge first
Lived in Hitchin for a while .... thought Stevenage was a horrible place. Luton wasn't a million miles away either, another hole. Did most of my shopping in Hitchin. Still quite like the place.
And to keep it on matters BWFC, I once went to watch Hitchin Town in an FA Cup match against Hinckley United and ended up chatting to Stuart Storer who was player coach for Hinckley! He wasn't expecting to encounter a Wanderers fan in deepest Hertfordshire.
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I'm not exactly a financial know-all, so this might be utter bollocks. However ..... if we are responsible solely for the hotel, would that make our turnover figure rise. Would that in turn mean that the sum of money (as a proportion of turnover) that we are allowed to spend under Financial Fair Play can also rise?
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Or Financial Fair Play. You can attribute loads of debt to the hotel. Sorted.
Yep. Good call. There'll be machinations involved one way or the other.
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.... might this have something to do with us trying to make ourselves more attractive to a buyer for the whole club?
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aye, that steward copped for a headful of horse boot
whoever the fans was who was tangling with the steward will be expecting a knock
Think there'll be a few get the early morning knock after this lot.
Hope we can beat Blackpool this season. We're well overdue. Especially at Gloomfield.
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I'd sooner they both lost. I really dislike Preston.
How come? Never been bothered with them except on the days we play them .. but then that would apply to Plymouth, Carlisle and all clubs inbetween.
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That's the one pal,I was too young to be involved but have heard the story many times. It was just a spur of the moment thing from all accounts,West Ham stumbling into the Manny Rd. Our lot clicked straight away due to the londoners dress style,then Bang,the lot kicked off. Older posters may know more details on it though as there were many skirmishes that day
That was the only one I saw. The only other stuff I remember that day was the impressive numbers of West Ham fans on the Embankment and Trevor Brooking scoring West Ham's goal. I have a DVD copy of 20 mins worth of ITV highlights from Bolton's visit to Upton Park earlier that season. Can't even spot whereabouts the Bolton fans were housed in the ground, we got slaughtered by a far better team even though it was only 2-1 in the end. Brian Kidd got a late consolation for us.
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Seems very accurate to me pal. A lot of the famous Sunning Hill Youth Club were present then.....and in the thick of it
Sunning Hill up Daubhill?
Would love to know if that battle was pre-arranged, even though it was in the era before mobile phones. It seemed that way to the untrained eye.
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Always support Preston in this one.
Might be odd to the outsider to hear a Bolton fan say that given Preston is just up the road and Blackpool is twice the distance away. However I suspect I am in the vast majority of Bolton fans on this one.
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Aye,it was a bizarre mix in there. the famous ICF found that out to their cost and pride in 81
That's one of the episodes I remember most clearly. There seemed to be nothing going on... then suddenly an absolute bloodbath. No posturing or arm waving. Full on battling with the keystone Cops from GMP trying and failing to open the perimeter fence to put a stop to it all. Once the Police got in the protaganists seemed to melt away as quickly as they'd arrived.
If there are inaccuracies in the above information, remember it was all seen through the eyes of someone 11 or 12.
93/4 And 94/5
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Last game of that season we played Burnley at home. We were already in the play offs, they were already down. Against all expectations they were winning 0-1 going in to the last min with a goal from, of all people, Tony Philliskirk. Mixu scored a last min equaliser but had been getting underserved abuse throughout the match from many fans. He didn't celebrate the goal and looked pissed off with the fans.