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I've got video of around three-quarters of the games the Wanderers played in that glorious part of our history, January 1986 to January 1988. So that's the second half of 85/6 all of 86/7 and the first half of 87/8 in Div 4.
Its Pre-Roadrunner stuff .. but quite a few of them still have a Dave Higson commentary.
I've also got a DVD/VCR machine so can put them on to DVD if anybody wants copies of a particular game between that period (good moments few and far between!)
I'd do a bit of a charge to cover costs etc but nowt astronomical. Inbox me if you're interested.
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Wigan Away - D
Sunderland Home - W
Swansea Away - L
Stoke Home - D
WBA Away - D
Everton Home - D
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I would have thought Ricketts will be back to fitness before Mears - but there appears to have been no update on that front.
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This is obviously very bad news in itself, but the sequence of instances of really bad injury news bears all the hallmarks of a team that is going to have real relegation issues. Its similar to 97/8 when we were dogged by injuries all year (Cox, Elliott, Whitlow, Fish, Taggart) and similar to luck experienced by many relegated teams down the years - Southampton in 04/5 springs immediately to mind.
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Why is Chelsea a jinx game? We have to play them and they usually beat us as they are a much better team. That's not a jinx team. Agree that some of there more winnable games take on a bit of additional signifiance, but no points against top 5 is nothing new, only difference being they have come together damaging low confidence even further.
I would say its a jinx game because since our first season in this spell in the Prem (2001/2) we've won 0, drawn 2 and lost 8 of our 10 home Premiership matches against Chelsea. If that isn't a jinx game, I'd love to know what is.
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Given that next week against Chelsea at home is a jinx fixture against a top four side, Wigan away in mid October is shaping up to be a massive game for us. Throw in the fact that its a derby and they're always up for it and this one's going to be quite a Saturday afternoon.
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Gardner and Ricketts might be left back options in future times. We certainly need options because Robinson has been sussed by Premiership managers and the amount of times balls get knocked behind him leading to him being outpaced by the opposition right winger/right sided midfielder is embarrassing.
I don't think Boyata has been that bad. Not saying right back is without issues but far more at left back.
And while we're on the subject of the back four its about time Wheater was given a run ahead of Zat Knight who is failing to reach the form levels he showed in the first two-thirds of last season.
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All in the year we played most of our games at Liverpool.
Christ we've waited a long time for this day.
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BWFC Merseyside XI
Siddall
Ritson
Jones
Stubbs
Savage
Nolan
McAteer
Reid
Kelly
Marshall
Reeves
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Jussi (Finland)
Ngotty (France)
Ben Haim (Israel)
Bergsson (Iceland)
Gardner (Jamaica)
Stelios (Greece)
Holden (USA)
Okocha (Nigeria)
Campo (Spain)
Sturridge (England)
Klasnic (Croatia)
Subs: Bogdan (Hungary), Diouf (Senegal), Pedersen (Denmark), Bobic (Germany), Chungy (South Korea), Jaidi (Tunisia), Emerson Thome (Brazil)
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A genuine and authentic part of Bolton Wanderers history, RIP Mr Gubbins.
Imagine the immediate hero status a player would get now if he scored two goals in a winning Semi-Final against the Dingles.
I hope there's a proper minute's silence/applause on Saturday.
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What about 1981 - taking the European Champions to extra time in a replay?
Dave Hoggan double at the city ground in a 3-3 draw. Now there's a name from the past. Decent player, lost to the USA and still lives there I believe.
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Kevin Olsson referenced in that Guardian piece!
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My thoughts on Saturday's game:
Your fans will all dress in black, drone nonsense songs all the way through the game, sing some daft song about "Argentina" and generally illustrate what a puerile conceited bunch of twats are attracted to your football club.
People will once again leave the Reebok knowing that if they were to be given the task of putting together "Frankenstein's Monster" person with the most annoying and vacuous attributes and personality flaws known to the human race, that person would inevitably eventually end up grinning inanely in to a camera on a Champions League night at the theatre of wet dreams while chanting "yernited".
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the eighties led to the worst time in clubs history we were basically utter shit for about ten years it was hard work being a bolton fan around them times i think we even went a year without winning an away game at one point in the 3rd division think it ended at somewere like newport county away with a jeff chandler penalty but could be wrong we were a poor team back then
It was Bristol Rovers ... in either Jan or Feb. By which stage we had an away record of something like Won 0 Drawn 0 Lost 12. Just absolutely unbelievable.
Then there was the London jinx, no win in the capital from beating QPR in Div One in 1978 through to an unlikely win in 1986 at Brentford. But we went on to get relegated to the Fourth Division just to knock any cockiness out of us.
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It was pretty grim times but it did not seem to matter that much to me I was just happy following us everywhere I some how knew we would come back, looking back that optimism was youthful optimism, thankfully it did happen but we as a club went as low as a snakes belly and only the very very few kept the faith.
We had to come back really ... but even in 82 the writing was on the wall, gates were at an all time low. I think I'm right in saying that after that Newcastle game we had about five straight defeats and were at the bottom.
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Absolutely. I grew up supporting a fucking terrible team. I think I'd rather it was that way though. Makes me appreciate what we've had over the last decade even more.
I wonder what someone in their late teens would think if we (God forbid) slid down a couple of division, probably having only ever really known top flight football.
I wasn't quite in that position .... but I had been supporting Bolton as a kid in 1976 so had been used to far better than we were to get from 83 onwards. Stuck with it though!
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Crikey. It is therefore 29 years to the day since my bro and I attended out first ever BWFC game.
A good game to start with but a bad time overall ..... given that a decade of almost uniform shite was to follow!
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Hard to believe its so long ago but it was on this day in 1982 that Newcastle came to Bolton with about 10000 of a 17700 attendance, fuelled by the arrival of Kevin Keegan on Tyneside and lots of hard drink.
Bolton put in one of their best performances of what was to be a relegation season with Tony Henry scoring two playing in an experienced midfield alongside Peter Reid and John McGovern. The whole day was marred by enormous crowd trouble with missiles being chucked in to the Manny Road North and a "Henry's Restaurant" sign being removed and hurled down - thick Geordies on the Embankment obviously thought it was Tony Henry's gaff.
From there the season went to ratshit for Bolton and Tony Henry left in a late season firesale to Oldham as the club sought to stave off the bank.
Years later I remember Dave Higson saying Tony Henry had been a cry baby and the club were glad to see the back of him. But when he left, the goals dried up and it was instrumental in the relegation that followed. He's certainly not a player often spoken of among Bolton fans nowadays.
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Unless I've missed something (Simon Marland's various publications come in very handy on these occasions) Cahill is the first Bolton scorer for England since Ray Parry against Northern Ireland in November 1959.
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Ngog
Pratley
Reo-Coker
Chris Eagles
Tyrone Mears
Tuncay
Dedryck Boyata
Kakuta
I make that a net spend of about -450k
add in loan fees and i reckon we are about level
massively reduced wage bill
much younger and improved squad
really, really impressed
we have one seriosuly good squad
Agree with this, well said. Good, shrewd management.
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He would be Bolton's first ever Belgian ( ..... somebody's gonna prove me wrong now I've said that).
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Having worked in that line, you need to understand that pages need to be filled, irrespective. Which is how stories like Pele to Bolton happen. These days they have far less credibility as word gets round via other means faster.
Of course they need to fill pages - but they need to get themselves off their fat idle arses and go out and find some real news instead of sitting in an office in the middle of an industrial estate and making it up as they go along. Is it too much to ask that what they put in to the public domain might have some truth about it?
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Day in day out we hear criticism about teaching standards, the police, councils, the health service etc.Yet as football fans who follow our club's fortunes closely we're perhaps more qualified than most to have a bit of an insight in to the appalling standards of journalism that prevail in this country. Disregard the phone-hacking for now. Cast to one side the Daily Mail's habit of telling you that various varieties of food or drink are good for you one week only to then say they are bad for you the next. Instead just look at the long list of patently false rumours that have done the rounds this Summer with regards to Bolton Wanderers. At least three-quarters of what has been printed has been lacking at best and a pack of lies at worst. We all deserve better.
Never, ever trust a journalist.
PS: We're now being linked with Jimmy Bullard.
Wanderers 86-88 On Dvd
in Behind The Stands - 'Classics'
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Me. That was part of the deal when I bought the vids off the bloke who filmed all the games.