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Anelka's not being released, but they will listen to offers.
They'll want at least ?8m, though.
For 12-18 months it would probably be a good deal. But I can't see Coyle spending ?8m on a 32-year-old. I think Bolton will be in the business of signing players who have a re-sale value in 2-3 years time. Or as Gartside says frequently "we're a trading club".
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i wonder if the players had bonus' resting on this?
i would hope so but it would seem not.
It would be costing us in terms of transfer fees rather than wages. I guess the club would only budget for wages using money it knows its going to get from one year to the next. Money of this nature is probably treated as one-off - so the cash would be far more suited to being spent on transfer fees.
Shame really. I reckon if you averaged out the kind of fee we pay (when we do actually pay a fee), it would come out at between ?2m and ?2.5m - so that ?4.5m is a couple of solid signings.
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Al Habsi - player of the year for a Prem team under his belt? ?3 million is on the low side. If Villa are keen, we should be looking at ?5 millon+.
If we can get ?5m for him all the better. If there's a bidding war then I guess the price will rise.
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Daily Star reckons we're competing with Glasgow Rangers to sign him from Southampton.
Seemed to do well on loan at Blackpool but have to admit I've not much clue just how good he is.
Daily Mail reckons Ali Al Habsi to Villa. We'd surely be wanting ?3m for him.
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and the obvious drawback
ker - ching
Not necessarily. Depends how badly Villa want him off their books.
The fallout with Houllier seems irreparable and that leaves room for a hard bargain to be driven.
My guess is that a club would be in with a shout with a ?3m bid.
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Stephen Ireland would be a classic Bolton signing. A promising career that has hit a problem. And he's Coyle's type of player. Villa want rid.
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I'd take a longer view. While we all HOPE for a good start, improved away form while keeping a Fortress Reebok, and progress in the cup competitions, results can be below par for many reasons. A knee-jerk reaction serves no purpose whatever.
Abramovich may be impatient - that's his problem. I think most people would expect that if he had stuck by Mourinho then Chelsea would have won the Champions' League by now.
Our bottom line aim has to be to retain Premier League status for as long as possible. OC needs some 'success' to continue to build on his reputation - which is likely to eventually lead to him moving on. From next season the FA Cup winners, alongside those of the other 5 top ranked countries, will qualify directly to the Group Stage of the Europa League. It is clearly more feasible to win a cup than to finish in the top 4 in the league.
In terms of relegation issues, Blackburn Venkys and Wigan Whelans could feature again, and probably 2 of the promoted teams, but we need to compete with the Sunderland/ West Brom/ Stoke types to keep away from the dogfight.
Abramovich has money - Eddie Davies has sense.
Even if we have a poor or average start to the season there should be no knee jerk to get rid of Coyle. Everton have experienced such phases over the years and have wisely kept hold of David Moyes.
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The key mathematical equation here is surely the amount of debt minus the amount the owner has put in. That's only ?8m. At Wigan its ?21m.
The concern for me is expressed in Wigan's column but applies to Bolton, Fulham and others who are owned by one wealthy man. What are the plans for when that person dies? Hopefully Eddie Davies has many good years ahead of him - nonetheless I hope the club is planning ahead.
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... Its happened a couple of times before.
83/4 Bolton 3 Sheff U 1 after a shocking run of results in our first 80s year down in Div 3.
91/2 Bolton 3 Stoke 1 after an even more dismal run that ultimately led to Phil Neal getting the sack.
Just cannot see it happening on Sunday though!
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we have had an appalling end to the season pure relegation form, so what went wrong?
for me Holdens injury and dropping wheater for 50p head
Stuart Holden is the complete midfielder and if he comes back as good as he was before injury I think he's going to end up in the Djorkaeff/Okocha/Campo legend category.
His presence enables us to play a two man midfield and get away with it. Without him we can't do it - with the knock on effect of exposing the back four.
In short, Jonny Evans recklessness was the turning point in our season.
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I would be ecstatic if Blackburn went down, that would be piss funny.
Me too. Can't see it happening though. Which is partly a result of us rolling over at Ewood a few weeks ago.
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it was in sheffield and the score was 10-1
Tony Knowles (v Steve Davies)
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nothing to do with football
Mike Watkinson?
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i was in a 12ft caravan with mum, dad and two dogs
dunno which was more depressing
there was one good moment for a bolton sports personality that day
and that's your starter for 10
Alan Ball?
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derby was just 3 days after a notable away defeat
... listened to by me on Piccadilly Radio in the days when they had a jingle that said "its a goal!" if a local team scored and "oh nooooo" if the other side scored. "oh nooo" was heard seven times that day as a result of happenings on a plastic pitch in West London.
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Did them both. Wasn't that Derby game an evening KO? One think I do remember about that game was when the winner went in I went absolutely ballistic and ran up and down the Burnden Paddock, yes ran up and down the paddock becasue it was rather empty them days.
Yep, it was certainly a night match with a small gate. I seem to recall there being a tiny away following from Derby. Despite the lack of numbers there was a larger than normal gathering of hard b*stards on the Manny Road terrace. They weren't to get their fun until the following Saturday vs Sheff Weds.
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I was at the Sheffield Wednesday game. They brought a big support that day.
I remember the Burnden Paddock singing 'Happy Birthday To You' to Jack Charlton as the third goal went in.
Didn't we stop them going up?
That's right, they just missed out. Seem to recall there being a substantial amount of 'friction' between the Wanderers fans and that large visiting support that day!
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I once read a Wanderers fan describe Wigan Athletic as the turd that won't flush. At several stages today it looked like that turd had finally slipped down the pan. However it still stubbornly lurks in the depths.
The pie-men's late winner for 3-2 today put me in mind of Bolton's penultimate game in 81/2. We needed to beat Derby County at Burnden to take the Second Division relegation fight to the final day of the season. At 0-1 and 1-2 down the lower divisions loomed. However, an unlikely equaliser meant we entered injury time level .. and Chris Thompson popped up with a dramatic injury time winner to send a small attendance in to ferment.
We went on to beat Sheff Weds 3-1 at Burnden (who themselves needed to win to have a chance of promotion)on the final Saturday of the season. Cardiff's home defeat against Luton in a re-arranged fixture a few days later confirmed our survival. (this was in the days when re-arranged games could happen after the final official weekend of the season)
Anybody else old enough or sad enough to remember anything about those two games at Burnden?
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24 points from wins, 16 from draws = 40 points from 35 games.....aint a million miles off normal league form......where we have 46 from 37........
or is the argument that we think the other teams are shit ane we should do better? when we first casme up bburn were finishing above us wigan had a good first season....
When you factor in that points against the likes of Liverpool, United, Arsenal and Chelsea are difficult to come by, form against those in mid table and the lower reaches would needs on average to be much better than 40 points from 36 games. I can only think of Fulham as an example of a team that would fall in those latter categories who we do equally badly against. Given that local pride is at stake in what are some of English football's oldest fixtures, its a bit depressing that the club can't seem to raise itself to compete in these games like the opposition do. Not often enough at least.
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Our record since Promotion in Lancs derbies (excluding the big city clubs) in Prem fixture is poor. As outlined below. Why is this? It can only be because other teams are more up for it than us. Whatever the reason, its about time it was addressed - and Saturday would be a good time to start.
v Blackburn: Won 4 Drawn 9 Lost 7
v Wigan: Won 3 Drawn 5 Lost 4
v Burnley: Won 1 Drawn 1 Lost 0
v Blackpool Won 0 Drawn 1 Lost 0
Total: Won 8 Drawn 16 Lost 11
Another Lancs Derby. Another defeat.
We're better off if two of Blackpool, Blackburn and Wigan go down. Given that we are in and around these teams in the Prem (OK Blakcpool have only had one season) shows this track record up to me even more poor. Its just points lots every season.
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It was some time in the 76/7 season. However the first one I actually remember for certain was late that season ... Bolton 2 Chelsea 2. A day when the atmosphere crackled with menace and there was old style footy hooliganism from first to last.
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One of the Blackpool players now quoted as saying that Saturday is the biggest in the history of the club.
I wonder if that's because they need to win to have a chance of staying up or because they are playing their hated Bolton Wanderers at home for the first time in 18 years?
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I see the 1953 cup final is being mentioned in today's press. To be fair its linked to Stanley Matthews and Stoke's appearance in Saturday's final as opposed to Blackpool v BWFC. However constant reference back to that game is one of the reasons I can't stand Blackpool and I hope we do em on Saturday. You can bet 1953 will be flung at us several times before the weekend is out.
Sturridge won't be off target two weekends on the run - still can't see a win though given recent performances.
I'll optimistically predict Blackpool 2 Bolton 2 (Sturridge 2)
Fifty-Nine Years Ago Today
in Terrace Talk - 'Classics'
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May 25th, 1952 - Nat scored the winner in Vienna for England against Austria and earned his famous nickname. Thought it was worth mentioning in this year of all years.
Sixtieth anniversary next year - perhaps it should be commemorated in some way.