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There are a few teams I dislike and enjoy watching lose but a Jock footballing calamity is always a sweet one.
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We'd love to win this and Wigan. However I suspect most fans care far more about the fixture v the pie men than our trip to Gloomfield Road.
To bring some context: The last time we won at Blackpool (27 Dec 1977), Wigan were not even a football league side. Thus for the older Bolton fan this is almost as important if not with parity.
Am I optimistic? No. This is based more on history and consistently nasty experiences in away games v the orange cunts than this season's events. They just always play well above themselves v us on their home patch. We have to match it.
I'll have a go at clutching at straws: Most of Blackpool's form this season has been in away games. They are third in the away table with a record of 9-4-7 and three wins in their last five. At home it's a different matter. They've won only 4, drawn 11 and lost 3. They don't score or concede too many.
Based on the above I'd be going for a rather predictable 1-1, a scoreline we've experienced there a good few times since we last won there. Not the sweet jinx ending result we all want I know.
If you want omens: The last time before this season that we beat Blackpool 2-1 at home in the league was that 77/8 season when we won 0-2 over there at Christmas. That day though we had half the attendees in a 25000 gate with BWFC all over home ends in intimidatory mood. Blackpool fans of a certain generation shudder at the memory. Was anybody on here there that day?
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9 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:
Him and Johnston.
Great news.
We've a fine looking back 3 unavailable now.
Johnston might be back for our next game though.
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15 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:
In their last 13 homes, they've drawn 9, lost 2 (the first & last of the 13) and won 2 (Cambridge and Crawley).
A win for us would be "above par" given they've lost so few, a defeat would be very much below par given their only home win against a team not getting relegated was Exeter.
Yes and the Wigan home record is 6-4-8. You are right in your analysis. If you look at both fixtures and at our away record we ought to be on for something in both games. But what such analysis cannot account for is the way both clubs historically play out of their skins against us, way above their normal levels.
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Right here's the full list of misery since we last won at Bloomfield Road on 27 December 1977. What's remarkable about this (and the fixtures at Bolton) is how close away wins have been only to be derailed very late in games or in odd/unusual circumstances.
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- 1985/6 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (last minute equaliser conceded)
- 1986/7 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (conceded an equaliser inside a minute of going ahead)
- 1988/89 Blackpool 2 Bolton 0
- 1989/90 Blackpool 2 Bolton 1 (conceded twice in the last few minutes - see FA Cup game in the same bloody season)
- 1992/3 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (conceded a late penalty equaliser
- 2010/11 Blackpool 4 Bolton 3 (late season Premier League, had to be 4-3! At least it didn't save them from relegation)
- 2012/13 Blackpool 2 Bolton 2 (twice ahead, twice conceded equalisers)
- 2013/14 Blackpool 0 Bolton 0
- 2014/15 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (late Chungy equaliser)
- 2019/20 Blackpool 2 Bolton 1 (got a very late equaliser, conceded an even later winner - a matter of weeks before COVID struck)
- 2023/4 Blackpool 4 Bolton 1
Cups
- 1988/89 Blackpool 1 Bolton 1 (Sherpa Van Northern Final, Bolton win on aggregate and invade the pitch, felt like a win but wasn't one)
- 1989/90 Blackpool 2 Bolton 1 (went ahead, conceded two late goals in front of the MOTD cameras with lots of wittering about 1953)
- 1990/91 Blackpool 3 Bolton 0 (Preliminary group game)
- 2016/17 Blackpool 4 Bolton 2 (League Cup)
- 2023/24 Blackpool 0 Bolton 0 (Pizza Cup - Counts as a draw but Blackpool won the pens)
I make that Won 0 Drawn 8 Lost 8 altogether and Won 0 Drawn 6 Lost 5 in the league.
The only saving grace is they've got an equally dismal record at Burnden/Horwich over the same period (since their last win in 1986 we've W 10 D 5 L 0 in all competitions)
Surely this has to end soon? Saturday 29 March would be a great time for it to happen.
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1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:It’s a big failure from SS if he doesn’t take us to the playoffs.
DIsagree. The clock starts ticking for SS in the summer. He needs a transfer window. But these derby results are massively depressing regardless of who the manager is.
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I find these derby results so incredibly depressing. Other than Blackpool at home nothing seems to be able to stem this dismal tide of shit. We just seem wide open to every small time detractor we have, gleefully collecting results to remember. When will it end.
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2 minutes ago, masi 51 said:
who is on the left???
Has to be JDC or Desmond. No Murphy on the bench either.
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52 minutes ago, Cheshire Youri said:
My 8-year old daughter's first home game.
Her only other game was the reverse fixture. She left in tears.
Dont screw it up BWFC.
The club needs to bear in mind the depths to which it stooped at Stockport in November. Not the current management set up at fault of course, but we need to recoup some lost pride on Saturday.
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6 hours ago, Take Hunt Off said:
Even during our recent good run under Schumaker we concede far too many goals , with Santos on his way I think the defence needs a re-build in the close season .In this league at least one large agricultural unit is required maybe two .
I think Southwood is ok but only as backup.Again more physicality required .
Pretty sure our manager will address these issues when he can , maybe too much of an ask to gain promotion this season , something I am not too unhappy with .
Too much work required imo to transform us into a Championship unit.
I think the majority of central defenders in a squad need physique. We lack it all over the pitch to be honest. Midfield certainly needs addressing in that department. This is a real Evatt legacy issue.
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Hard to really assess, certainly not a disappointing appointment. Naturally as a fan you think: "Good knowledge of the continent = some decent foreign signings further down the line". It's certainly a departure from the recent past.
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10 hours ago, Big E said:
I’ve never seen anyone do a stabby sign. Can’t be many knocking about at the match now who were of a reasonable age back then.
weird how stuff continues. Be kids saying stuff who have no idea what it’s for. Similar to the “fuck the Tory”
Well I was barely even primary school age when the incident happened and wouldn't yet have been taken to a BWFC match. Yet in the eyes of the Bloomfield Road intelligentsia I will be a "murderer".
It's appreciated that it was a horrendous incident. It can even be appreciated why a serious grudge has been borne by a generation of their support. However when you are smearing fans who weren't even born at the time then you are patently trying to stir animosity and trouble.
I have to admit to some degree their attitude has had the desired effect on me. I can't abide them, they rank higher for me than the likes of PNE and Burnley and on a par with Blackburn. I suspect it has far, far less influence on those in younger age groups.
Let's hope we finally end the win drought we've had at their ground and send home sulking.
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As archetypal a thread as it would be possible to find on a Blackpool forum about BWFC. Inevitably we are referenced as "murderers".
https://avftt.co.uk/index.php?threads/bolton-allocation.60403/
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These absolutely love to trot out the line that they've never lost at the Reebok (four games, two draws, two defeats for us). They also of course nowadays have the 5-0 and 5-3 to witter on about.
Be good to put all that to rights and then rest and refresh before taking it to Blackpool and Wigan.
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14 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:
Forest Green is your way isn't it?
55 miles from Banbury so not local but not a massive distance either.
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52 minutes ago, Zico said:
spent 5 minutes trying to figure it out
there's no league team there
might be Grantham or Melton Mowbray
Rutland.
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9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:
I wish we could play all our games on a pitch as good as our's. Blackpool and Wigan will be arranging rugby matches and donkey rides on their pitches in the days leading upto playing us.
Hopefully with SS we'll be more prepared for their dark arts. Promotion is the aim, but wins against them two and Stockport would be a big boost for all of us.
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Rotherham being re-arranged means Stockport/Blackpool/Wigan consecutive fixtures (albeit with a gap between the first two). Play like last night we'll smash all three. If only it were that simple.
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Gearing up at Gloomfield already
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Those who had not yet bought in to the Schumacher era will be on the road to being true believers now.
A tremendous result. They can say Brum had injuries but we've got a few out too.
I liked the comments from SS in his interview along the lines of "It's alright having the quality but you need the industry and effort". Ally that to his tactical flexibility and this is all a world away from the one-dimensional world we had before.
COYWM!
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I wonder if they might go back to Leam Richardson.
Either way that whole groundhog day scenario of Maloney's tactical cuteness versus Evatt's stubborn naivety is now gone for good.
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I'd always support Rangers when the Old Firm derby comes around but that's as far as it goes. I shan't be carrying BWFC/Rangers flags or getting involved in all the politics/sectarianism.
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Not sure I'd ever seen Bob Latchford's goal in the infamous 1977 League Cup Semi Final Second Leg at Burnden. A gate of 50000 plus and what a let down.
If this goal is on tape you wonder if the whole game is stored away somewhere as well.
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There's so much more normality, common sense and pragmatism about the place now. The nightmarish groundhog days scenarios/defeats seem to have been banished.
I'm really interested to see how we fare in these next two games v Wrexham and Birmingham and it looks increasingly hopeful that when it comes to Stockport/Blackpool/Wigan, the white flag isn't going to go up.
Well done to all concerned on that showing today. It feels like Bolton Wanderers again.
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Got very clear memories of Boxing Day 85. It was our first game there since the win in 77 (other than pre-season). Huge away following, far more than the police must have expected. They hadn't opened the Kop, just the side terrace. I remember watching hundreds of ours flooding in and filling half the Kop in minutes. I also have a memory of the Blackpool walking across the pitch to approach BWFC in the Kop but the police being well on top of it. Loads of us were in the home ends including one bloke who was in their main terrace behind the goal and ended up jumping out on to the pitch and all the way to the Bolton end.
....we were 0-1 up (David Cross header) with a minute to go and conceded in the last minute. The "jinx" could have been killed at birth if we'd held on that Boxing Day!