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  1. 16 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

    Your post is far more balanced than others of late, but there’s a lot of “experts know what they’re doing and fans don’t” at the moment.

    There’s plenty of evidence (inside and out of football) to suggests that experts don’t always know best.

    Ar least until midnight, Sunderland still hold the record third tier transfer fee paid. Over £3 million for Will Grigg, who delivered 5 goals in 47 appearances over three seasons in the third tier.

    Closer to home, just look at the overwhelming reaction of Bolton fans, to the news that we’d paid good money - £300k - to sign Dan Nlundulu, who’d done nothing in half a season on loan.

    15 months later, and it’s definitely average fan 1 expert Evatt 0.

    Let’s not dismiss the opinions of fans who’ve watched and studied the game closely, for many years or even decades, but have never worked professionally in football.

    Fans who've been watching for years certainly should never be dismissed and are often very knowledgeable. 

    It was interesting to hear Evatt talk about a 50% success rate with signings being the average across football. If ever you've been involved in recruitment in any profession, it's a hazardous business and you're never going to get perfection. 

    We could go on with this debate forever. My own view is that they've done decently with recruitment since Evatt joined within the resources available. I'd have other things higher up my list of stuff to criticise re IE and the management ...hopefully without going too OTT and keeping things in context.

  2. 2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

     Is that Mads Anderson the chap who was fookin imperious against us in that 2nd play off at Oakwell?

    Aye. It'd be a cracking signing. The fact its Luton again (Evatt's mate is their manager) lends some credence. But there'd have to be someone on the way out for that to happen. 

  3. Reading between the lines of who has been absent with explanation in recent games it looks like Nlundulu and Iredale would be the favourites to leave. I'd be surprised if Williams went. Victor leaving has to be watched given the amount of links in recent times. 

    Our squad size is such that we'd need new players in if a clutch leave. Then we're in the business of assessing whether the incomings are better quality than the outgoings.  

    None of this is ideal before Exeter given there are supposedly injuries in the mix too.

  4. Anybody else sick and tired of hearing about Stockport County yet? Glad they won at Blackpool last week but they're going to be turning in to a pain in the neck and (yet another) petty BWFC detractor. Come on The Gas in this game on now.

  5. Lots of comparatively recent ones so I shall delve back to my earlier BWFC watching days for these: 

    * Getting relegated from Div 2 in May 1983 with a grim 4-1 defeat at Charlton. As a kid I thought it was the end of the world. We'd been shedding decent players all season to balance the books (Peter Reid to Everton for a measly £60K) and the writing was on the wall. But we'd scraped clear in the previous two years and we harboured hopes we'd do it again. Even more so when we went 0-1 up when Ian Moores bundled the ball in half way through the second half. Horrible.

    * I remember being gutted about an abysmal 1-2 Freight Rover Semi final home defeat to Mansfield in 1985. Me and my mates at school had convinced ourselves we were Wembley bound. Bitter pill to swallow. 

    * Tranmere in that play off final. The scabby bin-dipping bastards. An appalling day when we missed our chance to re-assume our position in the upper echelons of English football after the misery of point 1 (above). Elton Welsby, Chris Malkin, Eric Nixon and all other turds had their day. But the boot was on the other foot two years on.

     

     

  6. 4 minutes ago, desperado said:

    Are we saying the capacity is now 27,500?

    If so I’m not sure where the 1500 spares were yesterday.

    And were all the extras in the Leicester record crowd using all the segregation netting? 

    For that game and one v Arsenal in the same season they had away fans in the SSU and Bolton fans in the SSL. That meant no segregation netting was needed and all of the 28,000 seats could be sold.

  7. 5 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said:

    Not looking to be an #attendnonce. But yesterday signified our biggest post Premier League attendance and it's not in isolation. We hit multiple 24/25k+ crowds last season and it appears to only be going up. 

    There's obviously a lot of factors at play and if the club starts to rot in League 1 then the trend might change. However, it's pretty certain that clubs fanbase has grown much bigger recently, to a level rivalling our Premier League days, whilst in the 3rd tier, massively impressive.

    Obviously there were still some empty seats yesterday and a couple thousand of maximum capacity, but I really do wonder if there is any long term plans to increase the capacity by a tad amount, maybe add a few more rows here and there?

    It might seem excessive, but right now the only way to get multiple tickets is right in the upper tiers and corners. I guess we might also know more if we are a Championship club next year and the news on safe standing.

    If all goes to plan, we will probably be looking at 18/19,000 season ticket holders next year and average gates of 25,000.

    Just hoping we can keep the momentum going.

    I was never sure how much of the "front three rows" theory was actually true. If it is then we might be able to get the capacity up to 30,000. 

    It's been rare for Bolton to be in this mode with its support for BWFC. I'd say it last happened in the mid-70s. There were, of course, the Prem years too - but the 70s was tier 2.  When this happens we blow the other Lancashire clubs out of the water when it comes to gates. The only possible exception is Burnley but we'll never know as Turf Moor has a much lower capacity than our ground with little prospect of expansion. 

    In our present mode I do think we'd be capable of 30,000+ gates for the most important Championship games (as happened in the 70s) and the Prem. Let's just hope the mood sticks for some years to come.

  8. 1 minute ago, only1swanny said:

    Morley, Iredale, Dan, all squad members, if they know that fine, but at league one, can't see us getting better that are happy to just sit on the sidelines with cameo appearances. 

    The only way you can improve your stock is through gradually phasing folk out and buying in better. That's how you progress. When they reach the last year of their deals its up for grabs.

  9. In terms of those leaving you're look at those in the final year of their contract I reckon. Morley may go on leave I guess.

    To be absolutely honest I wouldn't bat an eyelid if we sold Sheehan provided we had a replacement lined up. Even if out of necessity it was a young Prem loanee. 

    Wouldn't be overly fussed if we sold Iredale either - again provided there was an appropriate replacement that didn't affect the squad limit rules. 

     

  10. With all the new signings and the tweaked formation we're not fully in our stride yet. We'll need to be hitting that stride in a few weeks. In the meantime we just need to keep picking up points and four from two games will do. 

    The awkward little start to the season continues at Charlton and I'd be happy with a point there too as long as we go on and beat Exeter.

  11. It feels very odd that Wrexham at home should be such a big game. Been trying to think of other examples where the second game of the season was the first home game and it was a biggie. 

    There was a game against Blackburn in the Prem when we drew 2-2 after having been 2-0 up, SKD scored one of the goals. Then in the "big" season under Colin Todd we won 1-0 at home v City after drawing at Port Vale on the first day. 

    I agree with those who are saying the result somehow feels like a real tone-setter.

  12. 28 minutes ago, gonzo said:

    The natives are not happy :)

    Oh dear. What a shame. Never mind. 

    Irrespective of form and mood they'll be bang up for it against us. Can you imagine us ever going to Bloomfield and doing that?

  13. 7 minutes ago, captainmed said:

    I live in Burnley’s territory.

    I didn’t go out after that game.

    They were apoplectic.

    Not as apoplectic as when we stole Coyle. 

    Burnley folk do a very good "apoplectic". Just mention Bastard Rovers in front of them. 

    The day will come when we are back on terms with them and beyond them...

  14. 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

    The crowds and excitement remind me of the mid 70s honestly never thought we’d ever get 25k for a league 1 game, this season gonna be amazing ride. Strap in folks. COYWM!!

    All the more impressive after the big let down at Wembley in May. You are right about the mid 70s, it continues to have that feel. Big numbers, not fickle.

  15. * The final whistle v PNE on the last day of 92/3 when we finally get promoted after a decade in the lower divisions. 

    * The ten minute spell encompassing the Michael Ricketts goal and the full time whistle at the rags in 2001/2. I spent days if not weeks not quite believing that scoreline: United 1 Bolton 2. 

    * Portsmouth 1 Bolton 1 at the very end of 2004/5, qualification for Europe for the first time. I was there at Fratton Park that day. Sportsmen and women are fond of saying in media interviews that a big event was "surreal" when of course it's nothing of the sort! Neither was Bolton getting in to Europe but after all we'd been through over the previous 25 years, this was as close to "surreal" as it was possible to get in a footballing sense.

  16. 8 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

    I was thinking Ron Harris but not sure if he was still playing for them in 83. Micky Droy was. We spent 90 minutes launching the ball up to Simon Rudge,no idea why that didn't work! 

    As said upthread- Chandler's return was a shocker. It was as if the crowd held him responsible for the crap tribunal fee we got off Derby. 

    Lumping long balls up to Simon Rudge. The amount of times that happened. It was truly unbelievable. 

    I remember pies being lobbed over the Manny Road North fence at Chandler as he took a throw. Pretty sure he had to be subbed that day because of the abuse. Steve McLaren would have been playing for Derby then as well. 

  17. 24 minutes ago, 1969 said:

    Who was that dirty bastard who played for Chelsea late 70s early 80s I think. He was there captain,played in defence.Played for them when they charged burden paddock when they got on the pitch and he stood there egging them on

    Micky Droy? 

  18. Noel Brotherston used to get stick year after year in Bolton v Blackburn derby games: "Yer just a bald headed bastard" 

    Leighton James got stick everywhere he played and usually took the bait. Happened v Bolton a few times. 

    Another winger who got baited and wound up by Bolton/opposition fans: Terry Curran. 

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