paulhanley
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I know the following was 2,000 down on Plymouth last year but 32,000 was a brilliant effort. It's such a shame the players let that following down. I hope it doesn't have a long term impact on our upward trajectory with gates.
Taking the long view, the last time we had a tier 3 play off final was in 1991 v Tranmere. We took 20,000 to that one. That's a big expansion in fanbase. In fact I'm pretty sure we've never taken a bigger following to a play off final (Tranmere, Watford, Reading, Preston).
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1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said:
He’s a goner then. Don’t think he’s the finished article yet, but have had visions for a while of him ending up being one of those random £20m players in a couple of years.
He's been a good un but I don't think this is a bad thing. None of the other midfielders are out of contract. This leaves the slot in the squad for the midfield bastard we are crying out for. Someone with physicality and leadership.
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Parallels with the early 1990s. After the Tranmere defeat at Wembley in May 91 we didn't pot Neal and 91/2 was a lame mid-table season. That's the horrible scenario in the back of my mind for next season. I think Evatt will stay. Unless he addresses the lack of nous and leadership on the pitch and adds some pragmatism and physique I fear a 91/2 scenario.
More distant parallels? The late 70s, an age before the play offs. But we needed two near misses for promotion under Ian Greaves before clinching it in style in 77/8. The difference was the addition of experience in the shape of Frank Worthington and Alan Gowling.
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Prem games later today. It strikes me we are becoming the Tottenham of League 1. Never quite fulfill potential, bit of a soft centre, regularly bottle big games and derby matches.
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I don't know what the contract situations are but I think we need to move on from Gethin Jones and potentially even Santos.
Our midfield is too often passive. I wouldn't try for Maghoma. I have big doubts and Sheehan and Thomason and Dempsey never seems fully fit.
Collins has looked a good signing. But up front we need to free JDB and sell Victor. Big Dan doesn't look good enough either.
It all needs a very big freshen up now. The mentality on display yesterday has to be tackled at root.
As a sidenote - if we can get full seasons out of Johnston and Mendes-Gomes that's going to help.
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Some amusement at the expense of our friends to the west on this hangover of a Sunday morning
“If you want to write about Wigan, write about that guy over there – he’s the local crackhead and he just killed a pigeon,” says a teenager in the town centre near the Grand Arcade Shopping Centre.
A middle-aged man clutching a white bag looks up and grins, flapping his arms like a bird. “He just smacked it and put it in that bag. He says he is going to cook it and eat it for dinner.”
Read on:
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Sadly I'm not surprised by today. We've bottled the bigger games/derbies all season. Oxford did a number on us just like Derby/Wigan/Blackpool etc.
When you look at today and some other occasions ... we'd have been in serious bother in the Championship. Long term this is probably the right thing. Short term it is unutterably grim.
Safe journey home everyone. I've got a shorter journey home - to Oxfordshire. Next week at work will not be pleasant. Oxford people being Oxford people it'll only be gentle stuff but life would have been more simple if our lot had grown a pair and won the game.
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6 hours ago, Sweep said:
it is, I said as soon as the qualified, they'll outnumber us on the day. A bloke I work with, live in Thame, which is pretty near to Oxford. This Saturday, he reckons there are 30 or so of them going from the local boozer, and none of them ever go to "normal" league and cup games
I live in Oxfordshire. That pretty much sums it up. Few take an interest outside of Oxford itself until something like this happens. Then they're all out of the woodwork in the surrounding market towns.
It'll be a big old following but it won't be a very knowledgeable one.
It's so easy to get to from here, direct train, no messing. Hardly a surprise if they outnumber us just as Reading did in 1995.
I think we'll be breaking the 30,000 barrier, which is respectable.
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23 hours ago, Casino said:
There weren't all those seats behind the goal when we regularly got dicked there in the 80s and early 90s.
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34 minutes ago, bolty58 said:
Can we refer to them in this way from now on mate? Just asking like.
Fanny's in Lonsdales.
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From what I've heard the fans are turning against the new owner because he's viewing the football club as very firm second class citizens in favour of the rugby.
We've wished this turd to flush so often, last summer we were full of it (me included).
Maybe the khazi never flushes and the turd just degenerates.
Sorry if you've not had your breakfasts yet.
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10 hours ago, gonzo said:
Deffo. Apart from those 2 goals the other night I've not enjoyed a single bit of this season.
It's been fucking stressful and riddled with false dawns and anti climaxes.
I'd love to wake up a week tomorrow and it's all done and dusted.
That's my thinking. I don't trust them to boss it and make it happen.
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There's a big debate being had about VAR and that will always be there.
What I don't understand is how you can have a 46 game season played under a certain set of conditions only for that to completely change with the insertion of an entirely different playing condition from another league just because it's a play off final. It's not consistent at all.
.... if it rescues us from a perilous situation on the day (Oxford goal disallowed or penalthy decision reversed) I'll shut my gob.
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6 minutes ago, Blondi said:
Friday to Sunday for us, staying in Murcott Oxfordshire.
If you have very, very, very deep pockets try the Nut Tree Inn.
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Championship: Burnley (H)
League 1: Mansfield (A)
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I can see extra time and a proper close do.
Given I live in Oxfordshire I'd prefer Posh in the final for a quiet life. In terms of the quality of the sides I'd say even-steven given Oxford's recent form.
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I'm not one of those for relentless negative posting but I have to say I've ended up feeling a bit deflated after last night. Living outside Bolton I've had a few wry comments about the pitch invasion after a 2-3 home defeat against a Barnsley side bang out of form. I've even had one "tinpot" comment about the same thing.
I was feeling throughout the game last night that we were exhibiting the irritating faults that saw us finish 3rd rather than 2nd and that risk us coming up short in the pressure cooker of play off final. Lack of concentration in defence, not quite clinical enough in attack etc, occasionally prone to being out-muscled. I'm sure both Oxford and Peterborough know exactly where their potential avenues to success will be against us.
It's too early to be talking about the Championship. Suffice to say if we come out of the lottery of a one-off game on 18 May with the winning ticket to tier 2 then some of the stuff on display last night will not be remotely close to what's required week in and week out.
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I think we'll take more than 30,000 but that we will be somewhat below what we had v Plymouth in the Pizza Cup. If we play Posh we will have more fans than them. If we play Oxford I think we'll have less.
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11 hours ago, Zico said:
Apparently they took 33k to the conference play final in 2010
I was living in Oxford at the time and still live in Oxfordshire. They did indeed take that number. The vast majority have never been since and never went before. But it's a short train journey - direct from Oxford on Chiltern Trains. Easy peasy for them to take a big following.
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3 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:
Fucks sake. Tbf they deserve to stay up after recent results but hopefully this kicks Leicester in to action
Thinking the same. Drama to come. Hopefully.
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38 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:
When were you there?
Rarely went to Morecambe, maybe a couple of times.
Been more since with the dogs!
Early 1990s. A looong time ago!
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39 minutes ago, Marc505 said:
Agreed, it's not like last season this.
Home leg second, managerless, them in terrible form us in alright nick. If we don't get this over the line then we only have ourselves to blame.
They've become a bit of a bogey team bar the Dempsey goal of the season match, let's put them down then gear up for a Wembley final.
They're not a bogey team overall. Their wins over us since the 97/8 season when we played them in the Prem have been few and far between. They've fared a little better v us in very recent years but even then there's been lots of draws
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Went to Lancaster University and Morecambe was often the place for a midweek piss up.
.... the place doesn't look any better when you're hammered.
Only went to watch them play at their old ground once. The very recently departed Leighton James was their manager at the time - up to all kinds of touchline chicanery.
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4 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:
Good call Paul , there is a lot of discontent at Barnsley and we won't have a better time to play them than now . I'm still pissed off that Derby ended up ahead of us , but that's because I live near the tossers I suppose . It's time now to press on and get the job done , no more get out of Jail cards available now I'm afraid . Roll on Barnsley
Aye. Derby were chanting "wanky Wanderers" when Peterborough equalised. Somewhat odd. Wouldn't be surprised to see them struggle next season. Not our concern though ... Oakwell here we come.
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Well we are pretty much 48 hours on now and with chatter among the fans absolutely rife there's been nothing to quell it by way of the old fashioned board of directors "vote of confidence". That's probably not of note just yet but if there's been nowt over the next 24 hours it'll start to become interesting.