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wanderer1984
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Anyone following Prem League of Darts?
Some belting matches this season.
The Nuke seems to have rocked the boat this season.
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1 hour ago, gonzo said:
She thinks men should be men and women should be women and all that caper and makes no apologies for it.
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6 minutes ago, Winchester White said:
No one coming over from France would be competing with anyone looking for a council house now. Why do you think they are?
Are you serious?
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3 minutes ago, gonzo said:
You're clearly a good bloke but your view on politics could be deemed debatable?
Maybe
I just think they're all fuckers mate.
Everyone's views on politics are debatable.
I'd rather look after those close to home and those in need right now ... then wait and hope I have a impact later.
Least people like me make a difference now. A view others on here deem unacceptable.
If we all did our bit and didn't rely on people at the top ... things might be a little easier.
That's all.
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4 hours ago, Casino said:
im going to be patronising but its not really meant to be
i think wanderer84 sounds like the sort of bloke we could all do with being (i just couldnt be arsed, tbh)
just so long as he stays away from politics
This makes zero sense. Explain
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34 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:
I’ve highlighted a point in your post that highlights a fundamental difference to attitudes today compared with my experience. Personal responsibility is not a phrase that is commonly used today.
I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing anymore.
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16 minutes ago, Winchester White said:
To be fair, try getting a council house today.
They wouldn't be given to my sort. I've tried before. I'm not deemed essential to have such luxury.
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3 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:
I like disagreeing agreeably - each local community needs more people like you - I'd just like you to shout louder about the help that's required from this government, the next one, any which one of them. We build great things together, the state should be the safety net and the foundations upon which helps us build better together and therefore afford people in the weakest positions the most security, that way we'll all be better off.
Sorry for the short reply earlier ... been busy.
I appreciate what you say but the truth is people cant be arsed to put the effort in.
Do you expect your government to do everything for you? That's not how it works in a community. Maybe that community spirit is lost on you?
We help each other ... its not a chore. We feel proud of what we do.
I do it because I want too and can. If others weren't so selfish and fucking lazy we'd all be in a better place.
Good on you for your Labour work ... least you're doing something you belive in.
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20 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:
I'm not saying you're not but lets look at it this way - again slightly less micro...
I'm volunteering my time to help build a new play park for the children in my area.
Fab stuff - it'd also be good to have enough money inthe local budgets to employ people to build these local ammeities
Today I've gone on a food run for two elderly people I know ... taking them to the butchers and small stores
Again, can't falult you - good community stuff, but also should there not be provision so people are relying on the kindness of others for their basic needs?
Last week I did a local beach clean
Tip top - volunteering is something more people should do, but also shouldn't our beaches be free from this anyway without good folk having to give up their time?
The point you are missing is all your activities are political, just as much as mine. Yes, they don't have a party attached but each small act of kindness helps build up communities to have a collective voice to say we shouldn't have to do this by ourselves - we want more support, more money for our local facilities, cleaner public places - that's a fair and reasonable ask from the people we put into positions of public service, who are paid to do what others are clearing up behind them for free.
They should be accountable for your efforts, don't crack on in silence - that way you won't get the support you, your community and so many others like you might need.
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1 hour ago, Cheese said:
I didn't mention NiC? Just trying to ascertian your point.
My point is my opinion and my opinion is my point.
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21 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:
I'm sorry, I just don't know what that actually means.
I'm leafleting for a local council ward on sunday morning for an hour for an election in a month that effects people in my local area.
I'm pretty sure that's a dictionary definition of small sacle, immediate support for people who need it.
I'm volunteering my time to help build a new play park for the children in my area. Today I've gone on a food run for two elderly people I know ... taking them to the butchers and small stores.
Last week I did a local beach clean. Next weekend I'm cooking for the community to make money for a local charity.
Things that have a impact on those around me. I make little things better for them whilst you and your type can concentrate on the long term by giving out leaflets.
I'm trying to do my bit.
Apparently that's the last thing this country needs. Folk like me cracking on.
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1 minute ago, Cheese said:
You keep insinuating that people who bemoan the current state of British politics don't do anything else to better their lives. Is that not what you meant?
Can't recall having a pop at NIC. He certainly had one at me.
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18 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:
Personally? If you really want to know but this is all out there for anyone to find out, whatever your political views - as a side issue and a personal bete noire, this is why political education should be complusary from years 7- 9, far too many people walking around this country without a clue about the political structures, how parliment works, how MP work for us and how to enagage with them. Suits those at the top - those walking out of public schools aren't nearly as ignorant about these things, hell even my daughters at their grammar had weekly 'public issue discourse' debating current issues of the day. Anyway...
I rejoined my local labour CLP (after being annoyed with Corbyn and giving up my membership) This weekend I'm doing some flyering for our local council ward where we have a chance of getting more seats, done a few leafleting runs but I don't do very much door to door as I don't have the time but 2 hours a month I do call rounds asking for more support time to other Labour members if they can spare it. I donate £30 a month to the Labour Party (as does my other half) and just donated £50 to Kahn's campaign for the last push pre election. Its not huge, I don't have time for huge activisim and local party politics (ie different wings at local level) bore me to death, but I do what I can to enage with the system to advocate for the party whose policies I believe will give us a better and fairier Britain.
Fair play to you. Actively seeking change.
If you belive it will help change for a better future then crack on.
But I believe we need others on the small scale of the spectrum that do things to make quick impacts on those that struggle. That's where I try and help.
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1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:
You made the hint that he was just moaning. Which he wasn’t
What are you on about?
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1 minute ago, Sweep said:
I appreciate all this "cracking on with it" and things are as good/bad as you make them sentiment, and there is some merit to that. However, it can't be denied, that it is more difficult to trade with the EU now, than it was previously. Anybody who thinks any different, is a moonman.
For balance, I know several customers who are doing a lot better now than they did before we left, and I also know several companies who have a lot worse off, and some of them have either gone bust, or relocated to the EU.
Generally, in my opinion, those who had "healthier finances" before we left have done OK, and those who "struggled from month to month" before we left have suffered
As ever, winners and losers.
A great point that backs my ... how do you know what would have happened if brexit didn't happen? It could have been worse for those that are doing great now and marginal better for those that still go month to month.
Did everyone expect things to be wonderful because the government told them it would? All winners?
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Just now, Cheese said:
The words of Top Gear Magazine?
Read back and you'll find your answer 👍🏻
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51 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:
He’s fairly active in his local Labour Party tbf.
I'm not saying he isn't. Fair play to him.
But he's an exception to others on here.
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57 minutes ago, Ani said:
You are trying to make a point though are nt you ?
That everything is not all bad and with your own effort you can make changes to gain reward.
It may be financial or mentally. It could be for others or for yourself.
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57 minutes ago, Cheese said:
Everyone has been "cracking on" ffs. Do you think everyone who voted Remain just downed tools after the referendum or something?
Apparently it's not enough. Not my words
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25 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:
Why do you insist on asking completly facile questions? They don't prove a point, one way or another.
Whatever way the vote went no one could say 100% of people involved in manufacturing would be better off - whatever the result, that's not how these things work.
But we do know (as we did at the time, because we were told) that there would be real difficluties in leaving our biggest trading partner with exports - and its been the case.
You said things are worse ... I said not for everyone. You cant predict circumstances that didnt happen. I'm not trying to prove a point ... you are.
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21 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:25 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:
You can control them - we can all vote, we can all make our voice heard when we know something isn't in the national interest.
Its not moaning - its standing up for a position you believe is correct, otherwise throughout the whole course of human history nothing would have ever changed.
I'd say 'just cracking on' is apathy at the moment, and that's the last thing this country needs.
Ok ... So what do you do to get your voice heard?
Instead of just cracking on ... what do you do to make a difference?
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6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:
Yes we fucking do, in that our trading relationships would have been maintained.
So you can guarantee everyone involved in manufacturing would be better off without Brexit?
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50 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:
The problem is, is that you are describing things at a micro not a macro level, that and its utter inanity.
'Its the work hard and it doesn't matter what happens with the national economy you will be fine' line so beloved of those that don't see the problems until they are there or the I worked hard and have a house rather than buy fancy coffee mob, which is so utterly wrong that'd I'd be tempted to ask you to sit in some of those school classes rather than build them furniture.
The country is poorer, this even effects those school budgets, and as budgest get cut work decreases for those reliant on the public sector as wages are stagnant in the face of inflation, or in the private where there is less money in the public purse to afford things.
Some people do well out of downturns, always have, but the vast majority get increasingly poorer, no matter how many hours are put in. Mortagages and Rents soaring and if you don't have the means for a second job or ability to engineer new clients to cut the cloth then goodbye.
The arrogance, and lets be honest sheer stupidity, of some to even ask the question - 'well are you hungry?' 'No?' 'Well, no problem then is there, pal' In the face of millions of people in the UK being fed by foodbanks in the seventh richest economy in the world is breathtaking, shameful and pinpoints just how fucking low we've fallen as a collective country; whilst all the time the government weedles at those divisions to remain in power and those idiotic enough to bite do.
Apologies, there is some strong perjoratives there, but after everything we've been through in the past decade, the state the country is in and everything that was warned about or even visible throughout history, that some people can still spit Tebbit-esque rot is something really starts to stick in the craw - although is shows how so many people were led to drink from this particular Brexit trough.
Personally I'm chasing late billing clients, I've not had a day off since christmas and thats literally not in an oh that was a nice bank holiday weekend back to Mon-Fri sort of way, not one day where I have not been with clients, working, billing, whatever - was hoping for a few days next week with the kids but a potentional new job has come up so I'm lucky enough to still have parents I can ask down to look after the kids whilst I pitch but still I understand I'm luckier than most but - and get this - it doesn't mean:
- Brexit hasn't economically impacted the country
- As a country we are poorer
- People have less money
- and finally that Hard Work isn't just the magic arrow, as many equally hard working Britains would I'm sure, love to tell you.
I'm not in denial with what you say. I still believe everyone has a choice to make things better for themselves. Small things can make a big difference ... collectively a huge difference.
Helping others out that need it most is what some of us do best. I'll continue to do so and be positive rather then moan about things I can't control.
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5 minutes ago, Big E said:
I am going with yes. From the people I have come across. Maybe not EDL racist but many people did it to stop certain people
Fair enough.
Your opinion.
Hate Crime.
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Maybe you should back off with your thinking then.