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werent one of the east berlin teams the stazi ? (just looked dynamo berlin , also now division 4) they stole all dynamo dresdens players once, who themselves had taken players from other teams in the past. the soviets loved messing with that stuff.

footballs crazy.. carl zeiss jena are in the fourth tier now. think they got to the final or won it. (they finished runners up).. When ajax's reserves last got dead far in the dutch fa cup , they lost to utrecht in the semis on pens, wesley schnieder, nigel de jong era (so later than kluivert and them) but the thing thats pissing me off is they (utrecht) lost to proper ajax in the final and ibrahimovic scored , but fucking mido scored as well... i hated that bastard

it were West Ham United vs Real Madrid B in the 80/81 cupwinners cup Its On Youtube (the return home leg) LOL . they lost the away leg which is pretty funny, but they where also in the second division (same as rmB) at the time. and this is similar to what i thought (but its not what i'm misremembering). but in this case, A reserve team and a first team both playing in the second division where eventually ,- The reserves got promoted to the top flight but the first team got relegated to the third tier. sounds dodgy, funny, but dodgy.

remember when their reserves got to the dutch cup semi finals when kluivert , van der sar ? , seedorf and them were all kids. [o maybe it was a few years later] pretty weird. although i *know* some eastern euro league had a reserve team win the league in front of the first team at least once. but i forget when where and who. and i'm pretty sure west ham played against (and beat) a team's Bteam in europe (probably in the cup winners cup, but maybe uefa cup) Steau Bucarest (the armys team) cannot play in the top flight anymore but that Commercial team with the now funny fcsb name does. because i think state owned teams are now forbidden from it (like in spain) so be even rarer now, even though its only happened about 3 times before. half remembered facts, i'll have to check.

theyve got some kinda 'no relegation' from the 2nd division rule in at the mo (a la gartside), so if it falls to pieces they probably cant do a Wolves.

who sent the first email about it ? wheres the video ?

"human resources dept drama"

yeah, not getting involved at all seems the winning strategy. "womans footballs on" "best turn it off before we get arrested"

if they pick the camo one the newspapers can use- "The White Death" or "SBS - Special Bolton Service" when we win. "Heroes of Television" if we are on sky.

blue shoulders suits it better if theyre going after the normid away look.

the red one doesnt need the white shoulder pads

lol at the camo one with the sponsor. think the viet cong used it

looks like digital camo for artic or alpine missions. dunno if itll make the eyes sken and result in missplaced passes and the like.. but it looks less like a team with a striped or hooped jersey intentionally going after that "at least the numbers are visible" look teams like sheffield wednesday sometimes do (eg, i dont think southamptons current home kit is striped). so i dunno, maybe that one for fashion reasons, but the hooped one for anti-strabismus reasons.

the League Cup is sponsored by that bootleg RedBull pop.

ooof, i think they might be able sign players for big money to fix that. i think.