Johnnyrotten

Surely we don't currently have any players popular enough that someone would want to walk around with their names on their back? (this is tongue in cheek before anyone gets the hump)

I can't think of many examples of players not putting a proper shift in, but I must admit I thought that of Lolos in the last home game. Clearly out of favour, but given a start because we were down to the bare bones, played out of position on the wing, his heart wasn't in it. That wasn't the player I'd watched in the rest of the season, when his ability may be questioned but not his application.

I saw it differently to that generally. Not saying he never "buys" a free kick - every attacking player does that don't they? Tutu, Schon, Collins, Charles etc. Tomo's method is to fall randomly to the ground and pick the ball up with both hands (bizarre he's never been booked for that). Its not about getting "properly clattered", its the cumulative effect of a lot of fouls on him, they aren't going to make a list of all time worst fouls but definitely plenty are "robust".

I agree, I think that part of his game is underrated. Gets clattered, comes back for more. Often gets stuck in against much bigger players, unfortunately on two occasions when he very much didn't get stuck in, we conceded (Bristol A and Rotherham H I think). We need more than him physically but he's far from being a fanny, that goal he scored against Crawley a good example of going in where it hurts and getting rewarded. Its just that when its not his type of game, where we aren't the dominant team, the game can pass him by for long periods.

I presume you mean "everyone" rather than anyone? In which case, probably not. But isn't that one of the reasons we have a forum, for folk like us to have discussions about them. There's never a conclusion at the end where we say "so that's decided then, x player is quality and y player is crap". There's no answer, all opinions are valid and add to the discussion, as long as its based on watching a player fairly regularly.

"When I spoke to the manager and Neil Hart about the project here, I knew their ambitions matched mine and seeing the stadium and facilities, I just knew I wanted to be part of it. It was a no brainer". Or just "what Gethin said".

Really sorry to hear that news @desperado Condolences to you and his family. A reminder of perspective.

Before that Chester 2nd leg we had the famous 8-1 v Walsall (Caldwell 5). After 5 league and cup games, we'd scored 15 and conceded 3. I went to Chester and Scunthorpe, both midweek, scored 0, conceded 4. Welcome to Div 3. Plenty of crap games and low crowds but the high of winning at Wigan on boxing day then beating Oxford 24 hours later to go 2nd.

Don't take this as I have a downer on Sheehan, I don't at all, I like him, its just chat about his level and his "value". But re his games for Wales, genuine question, how many games has he started for Wales and of those how many were against teams that are at or above Championship level? I wonder if there's a perception that he's great for Wales, because he's been involved in a couple of wins against lower level opposition? I'm only guessing because I've never seen him kick a ball for Wales, but most Bolton fans probably haven't. If Morley or Randall were Welsh would they be in the Welsh squad? The bottom line is he plays in L1 and virtually every time we play a Pompey or Derby or Plymouth he doesn't look like one of the better players, he gets a bit lost in the physicality and pace of the game.

Barnsley probably

Yes I can see the logic of him going to Cardiff, being Welsh and all that and having a "footballing" manager, I just don't see him playing higher at this stage of his career unless the club he's with goes up. Regarding taking a punt on players, there is still the limit on registered players over 21. If they spend money on a 30 year old that club is expecting him to be involved, that's no different to us signing someone for £200k. Its not like signing a 20 year old with potential (eg the Salford lad). I don't think keepers count (hence, Baxter) but I'd expect Santos to be playing more games than he misses at Swansea.

Never played them first game in my lifetime, but you might be thinking of Sep 2016 when they came here with 4k fans a couple of months after joining us from Bradford. Every time one of our defenders booted the ball they gave it "whoosh".

Stockport away on a wet, dark winter's day.

Just opinions but I'd expect Champ clubs to be looking for better. In L1 we can give him a lot of responsibility as chief playmaker. If I was a Champ club I'd expect to be giving that role to someone with much more physicality and consistency; he has a tendency to disappear in the tougher games especially away, which would be most games in the champ.

Are you saying anything below 500k and he stays? In that case he'll be staying, nobody's paying that for a 30 year old L1 player with a year left on his deal. He might go if SS is keen to replace him, but we'd have to accept half that fee IMO.