trotter58

What 'point'? That celebrities should give to charity? What makes you think that they don't?

Who?

Not like you to have a whinge.

Might be worth a watch if it's as good as last years game. Cracking goal by Jonathon Wilkes.

It's not my view. I gave the example of Northern Ireland who to my knowledge have never 'won owt'. Try again.

They shouldn't be taking part because historically their results don't affect qualification one way or another. These fixtures just clog up the football calendar. It's got nothing to do with them being 'minnows'. Northern Ireland fits that description but they have actually qualified for tournaments in the past. When was the last time that Luxembourg qualified for a major tournament?

The comparison with the EPL is ludicrous because teams at the bottom are capable of beating teams at the top but you may as well discount every single one of Andorra's results in this group because they won't get a single point and therefore their presence won't affect the final placings. If they want to compete then they should pre-qualify, so that some of the shite is filtered out before the real qualifying competition starts.

Andorra shouldn't even be in the competition. It's just a complete waste of time even playing them. Luxembourg, Liechtenstein and San Marino should f*ck off as well.

Putney Bridge. Don't make the mistake of going to Fulham Broadway, or you'll end up at Stamford Bridge.

Assuming that it's not on some obscure satellite channel because that bellend Barwick decided that the F.A. would rather screw even more money out of the supporters than give everyone the opportunity to watch it on terrestrial T.V.

Can anyone remember if it was possible to pay at the turnstile last season?

There was a load of camp blokes called the 'Gayvanettes' mincing around in tights on the pitch before the game with Keith Allen. They tried to rope Al Fayed in but he was having none of it and stormed off with a face like thunder. Johnny 'Jackass' Knoxville was one of the dancers and he came over to the BWFC supporters afterwards to pose for photos, sign a few autographs, etc.

Here we go.

I think it's this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_sheikh

...and yet they still managed to win the tournament with absolutely no preparation. Whereas England fell at the first hurdle, having failed to win any of our three group games, which included a 0-0 draw with Denmark, who weren't good enough to officially qualify!

Now were i have i heard that before? I wonder if Ashley will be sitting with the supporters at the next away game? Hope they appoint Dennis Wise!

We're talking about the national team not club football! If you're suggesting that our record in the European Cup demonstrates that we're a major footballing power, then why can't these players perform for the national team? There were TEN English players in the starting line-ups for the 2008 Champions League final, so clearly our players have the ability which underlines the point that they are underachieving at international level.

Number 9 on Freeview.

So because Denmark and Greece didn't expect to win, their victories don't count? If countries with players that are no better than ours and resources that are vastly inferior, can reach the final of major tournaments, then i'd say we have 'massively underachieved'.

If we want to be taken seriously as a major footballing nation we do. Denmark and Greece have won the European Championship more often than we have.

Anyone see that Italian film, 'The Consequences of Love' about the Mafia on BBC4 last night? Best film i've seen for ages. If you don't want to see how it ends, look away now!

I'd say that's a more likely scenario. Mark Hughes isn't enough of a star name for them and for that matter nor is Richard Dunne, Joe Hart, Stephen Ireland, etc.

But no doubt he was happy to take the inevitable pay rises, sponsorship deals, etc, that came with being an England international.

Correct. He should be grateful that he got any England caps at all.