Site Supporter Spider Posted January 30, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 Telly says our army is shit. Some US general has said that just because we battered some Argentinians with frozen puffins, that it doesn’t automatically mean we’re ready for the Chinese or the Russians. I imagine this comment has been well received by ruddy cheeked day drinkers up and down the land. I have no idea, so would like to open the floor to those better versed in military matters to put my mind at ease, because I’ve just signed up for Chinese lessons and put selloptape in the corners of my eyes just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 30, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 (Is it up or down for Chinese/Japanese? Can never remember) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 30, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 Look at the sheer size of each others' forces. Against either we'd have a big struggle, especially China. Much of the Russian stuff is old, and somd of their forces not necessarily the best. China may be a tougher nut. That's what Nato is for, together with a number of mutual assurance agreements we've been signing recently, with Scandinavian countries for example. We're also getting into bed with Japan too- the new sixth generation fighter aircraft will be a joint venture with then and the Italians. Also talk of a huge sales job to Turkey- aircraft, ships etc. These would boost our industries, and keep R&D motivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 We got NATO and more importantly the Yanks. No fuckers coming anywhere near us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 30, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, gonzo said: We got NATO and more importantly the Yanks. No fuckers coming anywhere near us. As a standalone unit though, where are we? Are we basing all our posturing on Andy McNab novels and films about derring-do of yesteryear? We need to go and crush some cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 There was a chart of the various armed forces somewhere. NATO far bigger and, one assumes, superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 30, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, globaldiver said: There was a chart of the various armed forces somewhere. NATO far bigger and, one assumes, superior. Is NATO not just another EU? Loads of chit chat and countries having to agree before anything can happen? I reckon we should leave. NEXIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spider said: Is NATO not just another EU? Loads of chit chat and countries having to agree before anything can happen? I reckon we should leave. NEXIT Haven’t given up the pop then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 30, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, globaldiver said: Haven’t given up the pop then? 31 days I’m basically a Spartan now Edited January 30, 2023 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 30, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 Nato doesn't make laws, nor take money off you, keep some then give some back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 30, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Spider said: 31 days I’m basically a Spartan now No way are you a spartan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Title should be shite army btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 30, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: No way are you a spartan. I did a sit up yesterday. I could kill you with my thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Spider said: I did a sit up yesterday. I could kill you with my thumb Doubt anyone would be scared by a ginger Man Utd fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 There was something on the rest is politics the other day about how we've got about 50 tanks left as we've run down the stocks for years. Whatever the number it was very low and way behind some much smaller country's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 30, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: There was something on the rest is politics the other day about how we've got about 50 tanks left as we've run down the stocks for years. Whatever the number it was very low and way behind some much smaller country's. What the fuck are we giving to Ukraine then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, MickyD said: What the fuck are we giving to Ukraine then? It was on that pont they were discussing. We just don't have very many and how it's been a long time problem. We aren't giving that many apparently because we simply don't have the numbers anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I can understand us slipping down the league table on the world stage but it's a rum do if we're no longer European champions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just done a quick Google we have 227 apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Another quick Google- we have less than Peru https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Military/Army/Main-battle-tanks Thought it was low, seems like it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: It was on that pont they were discussing. We just don't have very many and how it's been a long time problem. We aren't giving that many apparently because we simply don't have the numbers anymore. I'm sure I read that it's not particularly in our interest - at least in terms of defence - for us to have a large stockpile of tanks As an island nation, it's more important to focus on being a sea and air power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I'm sure I read that it's not particularly in our interest - at least in terms of defence - for us to have a large stockpile of tanks As an island nation, it's more important to focus on being a sea and air power Yeah they were discusding that (can't say I've really thought much about it really) but that we should certainly have not dwindled to those levels because of well, situations like the Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted January 30, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I'm sure I read that it's not particularly in our interest - at least in terms of defence - for us to have a large stockpile of tanks As an island nation, it's more important to focus on being a sea and air power This is true, but also as an island nation if we want to project power elsewhere then we need tanks. I would be happy enough to run down our existing tanks and buy the extremely capable Leopards and invest in R&D for air and sea with like minded partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 39 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I'm sure I read that it's not particularly in our interest - at least in terms of defence - for us to have a large stockpile of tanks As an island nation, it's more important to focus on being a sea and air power We've only just got an aircraft carrier again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, mickbrown said: We've only just got an aircraft carrier again. Actually we've now got 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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