Traf Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: I honestly think Shoretire is a step in front of them a lot of the time. Not too dissimilar to when we had Barry Bannan. I do like how Shoretire has no qualms about receiving the ball facing his own goal and be able to turn and open his body up in one movement. Again I don't really disagree, but he might be too good. Sheehan might be more effective by being more of the same level as the rest of the team if that makes any perverse sense. Sort of in a way that Dapo was one of our best players, but wouldn't necessarily be in our best eleven. As they say in the other industry I work in : horses for courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 For me, that's precisely where shoretire has struggled. Yes he likes to take the ball and move with it, but the physicality and speed is a step up from what he's used to. Often loses it. Yes, quicker movement by team mates may help, but he also needs to have awareness and be willing to knock it off first time and move again. He, and they, will learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted March 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 Shoretire’s reaction to being subbed at Morecambe was really poor and I’m surprised that nobody else has highlighted it. He needs to look at Kieran Lee and learn from an experienced, respected and talented professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: I honestly think Shoretire is a step in front of them a lot of the time. Not too dissimilar to when we had Barry Bannan. I do like how Shoretire has no qualms about receiving the ball facing his own goal and be able to turn and open his body up in one movement. Some of Shoretire's skill in tight situations is absolute class. Dapo often did similar amazing things in none threatening positions near the halfway line etc, and its great to watch but doesn't necessarily translate to goals and assists, and is never seen in highlights. Good to watch nevertheless. Ameobi was similar, superb skill, good to see talented players do stuff on the ball we know we could only dream of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Steejay said: Shoretire’s reaction to being subbed at Morecambe was really poor and I’m surprised that nobody else has highlighted it. He needs to look at Kieran Lee and learn from an experienced, respected and talented professional. I noticed it; he has been shit since good performances at Charlton and Peterborough and he should be dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, Steejay said: Shoretire’s reaction to being subbed at Morecambe was really poor and I’m surprised that nobody else has highlighted it. He needs to look at Kieran Lee and learn from an experienced, respected and talented professional. There won't be many footballers that wouldn't learn from someone like Kieran Lee, our modern day Gary Speed, but it takes all sorts. We also celebrate the Diouff, McGinlay and Nolan types, just different personalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Steejay said: Shoretire’s reaction to being subbed at Morecambe was really poor and I’m surprised that nobody else has highlighted it. He needs to look at Kieran Lee and learn from an experienced, respected and talented professional. I noticed it too. But I changed my mind pretty quickly from thinking it was a bit petulant to more in line with a young, passionate, inexperienced 18 year old who just wants to stay out there playing football - and I’d guess that would be Evatts take. I actually think today could be his type of game. Ipswich aren’t renowned for their physicality/shithousery. Finding a some space with his back to goal would definitely play to his strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 hours ago, desperado said: I noticed it too. But I changed my mind pretty quickly from thinking it was a bit petulant to more in line with a young, passionate, inexperienced 18 year old who just wants to stay out there playing football - and I’d guess that would be Evatts take. I actually think today could be his type of game. Ipswich aren’t renowned for their physicality/shithousery. Finding a some space with his back to goal would definitely play to his strengths. He shouldn't have started today, and his performance verified that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Steejay said: He shouldn't have started today, and his performance verified that. I disagree. I think he'll be out of the club at the next available opportunity. Josh Sheehan would not have made a jot of difference today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, kent_white said: I disagree. I think he'll be out of the club at the next available opportunity. Josh Sheehan would not have made a jot of difference today. Apologies, not Sheehan... I meant that Shoretire shouldn't have started. Lee should have been in from the off. Yep, I agree with your assessment of Sheehan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 11, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steejay said: Apologies, not Sheehan... I meant that Shoretire shouldn't have started. Lee should have been in from the off. Yep, I agree with your assessment of Sheehan.😁 I knew what you meant! You're both right; Lee should have played. If he can't manage 90 minutes, start with him, try to get ahead and give ourselves something to hold on to. Instead of chasing the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Steejay said: Apologies, not Sheehan... I meant that Shoretire shouldn't have started. Lee should have been in from the off. Yep, I agree with your assessment of Sheehan. As you were! 🫡 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Steejay said: He shouldn't have started today, and his performance verified that. Well yes, retrospectively I’m probably inclined to agree with you. But I think there was a fair argument for Shoretire starting and Evatt seemingly agreed with that. He’s not going to get it right 100% of the time and looking back maybe todays one of those days where he didn’t. But we’ll never know if it would have worked out differently with Lee in the side. Move on to Sheff Wed now, where I’ll probably align with your thinking that Lee should start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 11, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, desperado said: Well yes, retrospectively I’m probably inclined to agree with you. But I think there was a fair argument for Shoretire starting and Evatt seemingly agreed with that. He’s not going to get it right 100% of the time and looking back maybe todays one of those days where he didn’t. But we’ll never know if it would have worked out differently with Lee in the side. Move on to Sheff Wed now, where I’ll probably align with your thinking that Lee should start. Trouble is, over recent games Shoretire hasn't done anything to suggest he was a better bet than Lee, especially for such a big game. I'm far from Sheehan's biggest fan, but I'd have been less concerned had he started instead. He at least scored a goal recently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Sheehan wouldn't have been any worse than Morley/Dempsey/Shoretire today and at least he's our player. Play loaners if they'll improve the team, Shola isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeversLeftPeg Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 New 2 year deal. Earnt it during the run in IMO and looking forward to seeing him having a full season without injury interruptions. https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2023/june/sheehan-signs-new-deal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Happy enough with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Pleased for him. Really good footballer who will hopefully thrive next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted June 5, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2023 Yep, more than good enough for this league - happy enough to keep him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 With Lee going we needed to retain the other very good ball player. Deserved another contract with his form since feb ish time. Hopefully kicks on now to another level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I'm not convinced by Sheehan and never have been. That said - I'm usually wrong about pretty much everything to do with football and am looking forward to eating my words in the very near future. Probably end up being player of the year next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 5, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'm not convinced by Sheehan and never have been. That said - I'm usually wrong about pretty much everything to do with football and am looking forward to eating my words in the very near future. Probably end up being player of the year next season! Me neither. Fair play to him though- we'll see who else comes in and see if it helps him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I am not convinced by Sheehan but prepared to give him a chance due to his injury hit seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrested development Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 The way he played In the pizza cup final and for the rest of the season meant he deserved a new deal. I think when he plays deeper picking the ball up from the CBs is where he's at his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I hope he proves me wrong ! Just think he is too light weight and disappears against bigger stronger teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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