Members bolty58 Posted May 12, 2023 Members Share Posted May 12, 2023 15 hours ago, Traf said: I'm out. Something just doesn't feel 'right' about it. Thought it might be a scam when I first heard about it (SMS from cockney Jeff). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Seems it was worth it for the Norwich Bond holders. They did get promoted to the Premier league though. https://www.pinkun.com/news/22706960.canaries-call-time-bond-prepared-colney-promotion/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I’ll decide once I get the info and unless there’s something in the small print, I’ll have a flutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 My dad bought shares years back. Pretty sure he lost every penny when Eddie Davies got involved. So in short. Fuck that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, mickbrown said: My dad bought shares years back. Pretty sure he lost every penny when Eddie Davies got involved. So in short. Fuck that. It’s completely different this time to be fair. I agree on the sentiment though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 14, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, mickbrown said: My dad bought shares years back. Pretty sure he lost every penny when Eddie Davies got involved. So in short. Fuck that. Myth this Hed lost every penny before ED arrived Bought at about 40p They were worthless when ED bought em Less than a penny each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Casino said: Myth this Hed lost every penny before ED arrived Bought at about 40p They were worthless when ED bought em Less than a penny each Fair enough. Couldn't remember the ins and out. Would he have had any say if he sold them or not? Point stands, he lost the lot And my initial opinion stands. Fuck that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 14, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 14, 2023 Dunno how it works pal, but im not sure he did have a choice This bond thing is different If im right, if you pay a grand, then each year you get 85 quid so 425 quid Theres also a promtion bonus Only way you dont get 142.5% of your money back is if we go bust within 5 years I think @globaldiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Casino said: Dunno how it works pal, but im not sure he did have a choice This bond thing is different If im right, if you pay a grand, then each year you get 85 quid so 425 quid Theres also a promtion bonus Only way you dont get 142.5% of your money back is if we go bust within 5 years I think @globaldiver I think so. Haven’t read the details, but I’d imagine that many will resist, having been burned 25 year ago, or whenever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex_midlandwhite Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Casino said: Dunno how it works pal, but im not sure he did have a choice This bond thing is different If im right, if you pay a grand, then each year you get 85 quid so 425 quid Theres also a promtion bonus Only way you dont get 142.5% of your money back is if we go bust within 5 years I think @globaldiver Aye, this is right. It's like investing in any bond. It's risk Vs reward. My only problem with this really is that judgement could be clouded because it's BWFC and these investments should only really be sold to folk who understand the product they are buying fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Just watched the vid. Must admit, did give me a warm glow. Regarding infrastructure, I'd rather they sorted out the leaking roofs than the WiFi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 3.5m is nowt in the scheme of things, or is it? Or is it more to do with getting more supporters engaged more deeply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Subsequent to the announcement of the Wanderers Bond on Thursday 11 May, we have held discussions with the club regarding entry level funding. We want the bond to be as inclusive as possible so are looking at an option that would facilitate involvement via the Supporters’ Trust. With this in mind, we would like to establish the level of interest before developing any such scheme in more detail and to ask members to have their input by completing the short survey on the link below. https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/wanderersbond Individual involvement in the bond scheme is available as published at an entry level of £500 and this proposal would be in addition to the original scheme as detailed on the Tifosy website on https://www.tifosy.com/raises/pre-register-for-the-wanderers-bond We would also highlight the comment on the Tifosy website as follows: “Don’t invest unless you’re prepared to lose all the money you invest. This is a high-risk investment and you are unlikely to be protected if something goes wrong” The bottom line on any type of investment scheme like this is to take independent financial advice if you have any reservations. Thank you for your support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) The Trust are trying to assemble a group of investors for the Bond at £100 per person. What happened to their high net worth individuals? Edited May 15, 2023 by Traf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Why the fuck would you be arsed for £40 fucking hell. It’s like rinsing folk to the max. really pisses me off the way clubs go for money via the heart strings. Widnes do it as well. Loads of people with fuck all donating because it’s their club. If it is that good a deal surely these Swiss fellas would whack £5m in for £7.5m back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 15, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2023 I see shortland had had his say on faceache Tbf, his issue is more that its not as good as it looks due to inflation Questioning what 1400 quid will actually look like in 5 years The clown hes replied to is just whining that bwfc are ripping off the vulnerable Reckons hes reported em somewhere or other How clear does the warning need to be Id say them all but saying Beware it might turn to shit, is pretty clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, Casino said: I see shortland had had his say on faceache Tbf, his issue is more that its not as good as it looks due to inflation Questioning what 1400 quid will actually look like in 5 years The clown hes replied to is just whining that bwfc are ripping off the vulnerable Reckons hes reported em somewhere or other How clear does the warning need to be Id say them all but saying Beware it might turn to shit, is pretty clear That clown has one big motherfcuker chip on his shoulder, banging on about Burnden Leisure and our owners are obviously skint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted May 15, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Traf said: The Trust are trying to assemble a group of investors for the Bond at £100 per person. What happened to their high net worth individuals? £100 is a night out, not an investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Casino said: I see shortland had had his say on faceache Tbf, his issue is more that its not as good as it looks due to inflation Questioning what 1400 quid will actually look like in 5 years Which is literally the point of a bond, a bet that inflation will be lower than the coupon rate over the period and that the borrower will be good for the money at the end. What a weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 15, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: Which is literally the point of a bond, a bet that inflation will be lower than the coupon rate over the period and that the borrower will be good for the money at the end. What a weapon. i hate to do this, but im nearly up for defending him ive only read it once but it didnt seem to be his usual anti club balls the other loon who signed off 'retired ifa' was the one who reckoned hed made an official complaint prob founder menber of anti quick quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 15, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 "The fca considers this to be a high risk" 8.5% is decent at the moment, but requires the club to make some decent wedge. I suppose (if it's allowed) the club could still honour the bond even if it isn't making the requisite returns by shareholders coughing up thenselves- BD might be able to shed some light on that. Can't decide if it is a sign of optimism from the board, or a gamble to get the money in and get to the championship that bit quicker. Or both. Good luck to those investing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, Casino said: i hate to do this, but im nearly up for defending him ive only read it once but it didnt seem to be his usual anti club balls the other loon who signed off 'retired ifa' was the one who reckoned hed made an official complaint prob founder menber of anti quick quid It says in big letters at the bottom of every piece of literature don't put in unless you are prepared to lose all the money you invest. I might stick in the minimum out of sentiment. I won't be tipping up in the hope of getting rich on the back of it. Folk know what the deal is and you know how Shortland rolls. Give yer head a wobble man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 15, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2023 Sorry Im going looking for some rose bushes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 People defending this to the hill because it’s BWFC. It’s a ridiculous thing and if it was value these money men would be all over it. hopefully it is a sign we are going to be championship bound soon and they will be looking to sell with folk waiting in the wings. I agree it tells folk they could lose the money but Auntie Sharon doesn’t say that so folk won’t think they can. Az it bin dun and the other simpletons will whack money in and get stung somewhere. Which isn’t right. Folk went mental over wonga but question this and people think you are mental with a return of 50% in 5 years surely whacking 5 million in for one of our millionaire owners makes sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 15, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 Not if they can't afford to lose £5m. Maybe some aren't too concerned about £500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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