Moderators Casino Posted November 20 Moderators Share Posted November 20 we could sell all the players and reduce the debt - impractical obvs when they started we had squad worth half of nowt theres a good few million in that squad now and, id expect current debt is lower than in the article liked to - despite the bond loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 20 Site Supporter Share Posted November 20 4 minutes ago, Casino said: we could sell all the players and reduce the debt - impractical obvs when they started we had squad worth half of nowt theres a good few million in that squad now and, id expect current debt is lower than in the article liked to - despite the bond loan It is significantly lower, as KM explained. We're going to have to wait and see where it's at currently, until the next set come out. Clearly we've spent a bit, and presumably that spend was looked at in consideration of our overall financial position, but it's not been massively chucking money around, and income is clearly on the up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desperado Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Don’t know if I’ve misheard/misunderstood/misremembered But didn’t Michael James throw a substantial amount of his (his company’s) money into saving us? And he’s part of FV isn’t he? And I thought the shares and government loans were shrewd and viable ways of creating funds? But then again I’m pretty crap when it comes to finances! And again this question might be obvious to some, but can a football club that nearly went out of existence, be both aspiring to get in the championship and remain debt free 3 years later unless owned by billionaires? Largely based on those (possibly unintelligent) assumptions and a large degree of trust and faith in our good/honest people in charge, I’m very happy with the current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 20 Site Supporter Share Posted November 20 14 minutes ago, desperado said: Don’t know if I’ve misheard/misunderstood/misremembered But didn’t Michael James throw a substantial amount of his (his company’s) money into saving us? And he’s part of FV isn’t he? And I thought the shares and government loans were shrewd and viable ways of creating funds? But then again I’m pretty crap when it comes to finances! And again this question might be obvious to some, but can a football club that nearly went out of existence, be both aspiring to get in the championship and remain debt free 3 years later unless owned by billionaires? Largely based on those (possibly unintelligent) assumptions and a large degree of trust and faith in our good/honest people in charge, I’m very happy with the current situation. Bang on. Even with mega wealthy individuals, there is no guarantee of writing debts clean off. Look across from winter hill, towards Stretford- their mega rich owners, put their acquisition money onto a debt for the club. Perfectly serviceable debt; and they can use it as a cash cow, and piss off fans in one go. Reckon we've done pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Pretty sure the conversion of the gov’t loan valued us at something daft like £60-70m off the top of my head - it would have been mental to not take that opportunity, cheap cash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 20 Moderators Share Posted November 20 5 mill for 8% Rings a bell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 In terms of retain/release, what’s the actual situation with Paris? Do we have an option on him in the summer or is he destined to go back to Brentford? The only article I read from him seemed to suggest he was looking forward to getting back there to push for a first team place? Could we even afford him if we did want him or would someone with deeper pockets come in for him as I wouldn’t imagine a hard deal has been done for him to come here yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 21 Site Supporter Share Posted November 21 39 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: In terms of retain/release, what’s the actual situation with Paris? Do we have an option on him in the summer or is he destined to go back to Brentford? The only article I read from him seemed to suggest he was looking forward to getting back there to push for a first team place? Could we even afford him if we did want him or would someone with deeper pockets come in for him as I wouldn’t imagine a hard deal has been done for him to come here yet? To have any chance, I reckon we'll need to go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 39 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: In terms of retain/release, what’s the actual situation with Paris? Do we have an option on him in the summer or is he destined to go back to Brentford? The only article I read from him seemed to suggest he was looking forward to getting back there to push for a first team place? Could we even afford him if we did want him or would someone with deeper pockets come in for him as I wouldn’t imagine a hard deal has been done for him to come here yet? Hes really come on and I think hes ace. However theres not a chance in hell hes a premier league player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 21 Site Supporter Share Posted November 21 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: Hes really come on and I think hes ace. However theres not a chance in hell hes a premier league player. Evatt will make him into one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 50 minutes ago, gonzo said: Hes really come on and I think hes ace. However theres not a chance in hell hes a premier league player. I think It could be Snorrasons big season next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 25 minutes ago, tomski said: I think It could be Snorrasons big season next year! Up front with Vaz Té Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 9 minutes ago, Traf said: Up front with Vaz Té It was going to be but then he got injured again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 1 hour ago, frank_spencer said: It was going to be but then he got injured again An opportunity for Dung Thatch then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted November 21 Moderators Share Posted November 21 And emmanuel morrini We got him from Roma so he must be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marc505 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Salva Ballesta should have been brilliant. Like Robert Fleck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 I had high hopes for that 9ft giant we signed from FC Wuhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 40 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Salva Ballesta should have been brilliant. Like Robert Fleck. The high hopes I had for him The fat fucker couldn't have made it more obvious he wasn't interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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