Meanwhile in France

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

What utter fucking nonsense. Especially from someone who votes to make everything demonstrably worse.

 

Yeah but he sold some gold or something......

[bolty58]

6 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

The Gammon’s approach to a debate.

Blame it all on multiculturalism, it’s the Arabs fault. Riots didn’t exist pre-darkies.

Look, there’s more trouble on the streets. This is what happens when you take power away from teachers and the police 🤨 What we need is tougher policing & stronger, more dangerous, crowd control weapons. Problem solved👍

Fuck the decades of criminological research that say otherwise, who needs experts, I want to see instance justice through the end of a taser.

Rinse & repeat on any subject. 

p.s. I’ve not been blaming Brexit for all our financial woes. Do carry on though.

The expected response. the one thing you and your ilk may not have considered is this.

How good or bad do you think this mayhem all across France will be for the electoral prospects of Marine Le Pen?

You should be worried about the 'far right'. It is growing ever stronger across the globe thanks to the excesses of your side of politics. Equal and opposite reaction and all that. Do not say you weren't warned.

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, stevieb said:

Tldr 

 

They're all cunts

There's a good few clowns about. The government are 'framing it around immigration'. Take no notice of what is happening in France. Nothing to do with who they have let in.

All our ills to do with Brexit, the Tories, the economy (Brexit caused - nothing to do with Ukraine, Covid etc), the (world wide) cost of living crisis (caused by the UK Conservative and Unionist Party).

It's all because the government are framing it around immigration. I'll bet he trips up regularly in this massive multicoloured shoes.

[London Wanderer]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

The expected response. the one thing you and your ilk may not have considered is this.

How good or bad do you think this mayhem all across France will be for the electoral prospects of Marine Le Pen?

You should be worried about the 'far right'. It is growing ever stronger across the globe thanks to the excesses of your side of politics. Equal and opposite reaction and all that. Do not say you weren't warned.

Me & my ilk? You’ve no idea which way I swing on certain issues. You decided all for yourself that I’m a radical leftie who spends his days blocking junctions. so il leave you to it as you clearly struggle when things aren’t black & white.

The far right have been rising in Europe for decades. That long old taboo never to vote that way after WW2 is slowly being eroded. There is a feeling of loss of identity that is combined with unregulated immigration. Europe is warming 40% faster than the rest of the world & whilst the news barely reports it, the drought is hitting hard. Housing projects in the south of France have had to be scrapped due to water shortages. I can understand anxieties around unmanaged immigration, identity & resources & it’s fuelling a lot of these extreme parties into the mainstream. It’s not that the left have been too “excessive” that they’ve fallen behind, it’s because they’ve ignored & dismissed the concerns.
 

Goes without saying though that support for the EU is high and is growing. These parties that once spoke of leaving now talk more of reform. They saw our mistake and the war in Ukraine brought the continent closure.

Comments like hinting that these riots are because of who France let in are naive to the extreme. Also just ignorant of the reasons there rioting. Many of these teenagers will be second/third generation. Arab immigration was positive for France. If that’s me burying my head in the sand then so be it. Rather that than come across as an Arab hating Gammon. 

[MancWanderer]

On 01/07/2023 at 08:19, Biggish Dave said:

48 hours since Gonzo posted about this weeks riots and it's not been blamed on Brexit or the Tories. Are the politics bores having a few days off?

Not any more

[Spider]

There’s a fair few getting rattled on here.

Who said Farage was a criminal?

[Traf]

19 minutes ago, Spider said:

There’s a fair few getting rattled on here.

Who said Farage was a criminal?

He probably is.

[Spider]

23 minutes ago, Traf said:

He probably is.

Royal wants a link

[Casino]

26 minutes ago, Traf said:

He probably is.

Is he a criminal if hes received money from RT?

I guess not if hes declared it?

And if not, would Coutts be breaking banking rules to accept Russian money?

[Spider]

It doesn’t make him a criminal.

It makes him a patriot.

Not a British patriot, like. 🇷🇺 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

4 hours ago, Casino said:

Is he a criminal if hes received money from RT?

I guess not if hes declared it?

And if not, would Coutts be breaking banking rules to accept Russian money?

RT a Russian state-controlled TV station, currently under sanctions so if it's money from them I'd imagine so

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

RT a Russian state-controlled TV station, currently under sanctions so if it's money from them I'd imagine so

He got paid off them in 2015 and 16 for a couple of interviews or some such. Well before they were booted off air.

The mp made accusations much later in parliament, and apparently claimed he had received over half a million from them. Complete bollocks apparently as that figure was the total earnings for the year for Farage's company.

In short, the mp got his facts wrong and knows it and certainly won't make the accusations again in public. 

It seems though that shit sticks.

It should be fairly easy for the authorities to ascertain if the money was made illegally, but in the years since, nothing. 

Also read now that Farage has instructed lawyers to sue the bank- guess we'll see how that goes.

Something needs sorting as it seems hundreds and hundreds of people are having their accounts closed and no reasons given. A ridiculous state of affairs that any person can be subject to such behaviour, without recourse or even made aware of any supposed evidence.

[Sweep]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

Also read now that Farage has instructed lawyers to sue the bank- guess we'll see how that goes.

 

I'd be surprised if he can actually sue a bank who doesn't want his business anymore , surely it's up to them who they do or don't want as a customer

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'd be surprised if he can actually sue a bank who doesn't want his business anymore , surely it's up to them who they do or don't want as a customer

Iiiiiiinnnnnn one

The free market we all cherish so dearly is doing whatever it fucking well wants.

Snowflakes

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

I'd be surprised if he can actually sue a bank who doesn't want his business anymore , surely it's up to them who they do or don't want as a customer

Maybe.

I suppose that's the job of his legal team.

As for Spider's comments about free markets, well he couldn't be wider of the mark.

 

[globaldiver]

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

I'd be surprised if he can actually sue a bank who doesn't want his business anymore , surely it's up to them who they do or don't want as a customer

If he’s on the politically exposed person list, then not.

[mickbrown]

Maybe there's a business opportunity for somebody in the UK to set up a bank for cunts.

Call it Cuuntts

 

[Spider]

1 hour ago, globaldiver said:

If he’s on the politically exposed person list, then not.

Are banks prevented by law from accepting PCP’s as customers?

[FrancisFogarty]

11 hours ago, Spider said:

There’s a fair few getting rattled on here.

Who said Farage was a criminal?

Lots of people.

[Spider]

1 minute ago, FrancisFogarty said:

Lots of people.

Save me the hassle of reading back….

[FrancisFogarty]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Save me the hassle of reading back….

Who said Farage was a criminal.

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, FrancisFogarty said:

Who said Farage was a criminal.

I don’t think anyone did.

You been on the bourbon?

[FrancisFogarty]

Fuck me, twenty questions every time.

[Farrelli]

19 hours ago, bolty58 said:

There's a good few clowns about. The government are 'framing it around immigration'. Take no notice of what is happening in France. Nothing to do with who they have let in.

All our ills to do with Brexit, the Tories, the economy (Brexit caused - nothing to do with Ukraine, Covid etc), the (world wide) cost of living crisis (caused by the UK Conservative and Unionist Party).

It's all because the government are framing it around immigration. I'll bet he trips up regularly in this massive multicoloured shoes.

Careful grandad you’ll give yourself another funny turn😂

[bolty58]

16 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Me & my ilk? Aye. You and your ilk. You’ve no idea which way I swing on certain issues. Swing? Dirty bastard. You decided all for yourself (I must admit that I am prone to deciding for myself. It's an awful affliction that I am seeking therapy for  ) that I’m a radical leftie who spends his days blocking junctions (a euphemism in the swinger community?). so il leave you to it as you clearly struggle when things aren’t black & white. It's navy blue and white with a dash of red mate. To the core.

The far right have been rising in Europe for decades. That long old taboo never to vote that way after WW2 is slowly being eroded. There is a feeling of loss of identity that is combined with unregulated immigration. Europe is warming 40% faster than the rest of the world & whilst the news barely reports it, the drought is hitting hard. Housing projects in the south of France have had to be scrapped due to water shortages. I can understand anxieties around unmanaged immigration, identity & resources & it’s fuelling a lot of these extreme parties into the mainstream. It’s not that the left have been too “excessive” that they’ve fallen behind, it’s because they’ve ? ignored & dismissed the concerns. Bollocks.
 

Goes without saying though that support for the EU is high and is growing. Does it? Methinks thou art blinkered me old son. These parties that once spoke of leaving now talk more of reform. They saw our mistake and the war in Ukraine brought the continent closure. Your English is starting to falter. Closure?

Comments like hinting that these riots are because of who France let in are naive to the extreme. Also just ignorant of the reasons there rioting. Many of these teenagers will be second/third generation. Arab immigration was positive for France. If that’s me burying my head in the sand then so be it. Rather that than come across as an Arab hating Gammon.  Could you not weave an ageist comment in too so that we can all marvel at the full panoply of your creative attributes?