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7 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Going into a tough run of games with 1 recognised keeper and 2 wing-backs is sheer pigheadedness

An injury to any if one of them and shit will really hit the fan. This time the criticism will be warranted. 

The keeper situation isn't as critical as you think.

He wouldn't have one on the bench normally and you can always loan a keeper in after the window closes in 'emergencies'

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Baxter's injury record isn't exactly stellar. 

Honestly amazed not having a keeper on the bench hasn't come back to bite us on the arse, yet the one time we did need it (Tuesday), there was a sub keeper available.

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3 hours ago, Lostock Whites said:

Either way, this is our 3rd season in League One, and if we lose tomorrow after our recent blip, there will be some serious questions.

Questions like:

"how incredible is it that we still exist having being hours from oblivion"

"how have we managed to do so well despite not having the money to spend that other clubs have?"

"how are we even being considered as a prospect for promotion?"

 

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11 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Questions like:

"how incredible is it that we still exist having being hours from oblivion"

"how have we managed to do so well despite not having the money to spend that other clubs have?"

"how are we even being considered as a prospect for promotion?"

 

"how incredible is it that we still exist having being hours from oblivion"

There's been loads of clubs in that situation, smaller teams than ours are now in the premier league, like Luton. The board aren't doing this as a charity, their business plan doesn't work without promotion. You think they'll still be here in 10 years with us still in league one...?

"how have we managed to do so well despite not having the money to spend that other clubs have?"

We got promoted from league one under Phil Parkinson and dodgy Ken, and spent nowt. It wasn't great to look at but it worked.

"how are we even being considered as a prospect for promotion?"

Because a mid table team from last year managed to get some cracking loan players, which pushed us into the promotion places.

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2 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

"how incredible is it that we still exist having being hours from oblivion"

There's been loads of clubs in that situation, smaller teams than ours are now in the premier league, like Luton. The board aren't doing this as a charity, their business plan doesn't work without promotion. You think they'll still be here in 10 years with us still in league one...?

"how have we managed to do so well despite not having the money to spend that other clubs have?"

We got promoted from league one under Phil Parkinson and dodgy Ken, and spent nowt. It wasn't great to look at but it worked.

"how are we even being considered as a prospect for promotion?"

Because a mid table team from last year managed to get some cracking loan players, which pushed us into the promotion places.

 

2 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

"how incredible is it that we still exist having being hours from oblivion"

There's been loads of clubs in that situation, smaller teams than ours are now in the premier league, like Luton. The board aren't doing this as a charity, their business plan doesn't work without promotion. You think they'll still be here in 10 years with us still in league one...?

"how have we managed to do so well despite not having the money to spend that other clubs have?"

We got promoted from league one under Phil Parkinson and dodgy Ken, and spent nowt. It wasn't great to look at but it worked.

"how are we even being considered as a prospect for promotion?"

Because a mid table team from last year managed to get some cracking loan players, which pushed us into the promotion places.

Brilliant! - you've answered Lostock's questions before they're even been asked.

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16 minutes ago, FrancisFogarty said:

5 games gone, one defeat to a side that have currently got the black spot on us, and the seasons over ? The manager is on his way ?

Bollocks and bollocks. A good performance tomorrow and it will be back to normal.

A hard fought draw. 1- 1

Has anyone actually said that "the manager is on his way"? If so they're morons.

The "black spot" thing is a red herring though. The players knew full well how important it was to perform in that game and they couldn't  - so IMO it was nothing to do with it being Wigan but more to do with quality and a huge reality check. If we are to avoid another one tomorrow they are going to have to step up big time. The team didn't play well enough against Wigan but they can play better - they've just got to do it week in week out - starting tomorrow.

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14 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We need to impose our style of play more than they impose the Warne style of play, sadly it’s easier to impose Warne style than ours and we’ve an Achilles heel in this battle of styles. I’ll take a draw right now. 

I think the problems been that we haven’t imposed our style of play MK but you’re right that if we do we should be able to beat anyone in this league. We seem to allow teams to impose their style on us, whatever that is, like Wigan and Burton instead of going at them from the off. The first 3 games showed what you can do when you hit the ground running so let’s have a return to that. Derby will be a stern test for us but I believe that if we get at them from kick off with our quick pass and move style we’ll be too good for them. 

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13 hours ago, Zog1 said:

That's exactly the point i'm making...

Not forgetting we won promotion in 2017 with Phil Parkinson having spent nothing.

 

Who inherited a squad littered with premier league and championship experience.

He didn't need to spend big.

What did Evatt inherit?

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24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Who inherited a squad littered with premier league and championship experience.

He didn't need to spend big.

What did Evatt inherit?

This.

I've no idea how people don't see that taking a squad that all played at a higher level is much easier than cobbling a squad together without 2 hapennies to rub together.

Evatt will get us back into the Championship, like Parkinson did, but it will be a much greater achievement. Unfortunately I'm not sure it will be this season.

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14 hours ago, Lostock Whites said:

Either way, this is our 3rd season in League One, and if we lose tomorrow after our recent blip, there will be some serious questions.

We have to do better in the bigger matches against our promotion rivals, every point matters, whether it's now or in April.

Last season we played Derby, Ipswich, Plymouth, Sheff Weds, Barnsley(twice) all at home and didn't register a single win.

Every game is the same 3 points available, but if we want to finish in that top 2 then we have to be more competitive than we were last season.

In one. 

Especially so as we’re favourites (or joint) to win the league. 

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1 hour ago, captainmed said:

In one. 

Especially so as we’re favourites (or joint) to win the league. 

We were joint favourites before a ball was kicked and the transfer window happened according to dickheads who were setting us up for a fall, but that was then. Now, we're one of several teams in with a decent chance and even the bookies are showing Derby ahead of us.

Fact is the manager is backing the current squad to get better than they currently are and we'll find out today if they've improved from the Wigan fiasco, but we're in this for the long haul and today might be a little early to take on the favourites. We'll see.

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4 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

We were joint favourites before a ball was kicked and the transfer window happened according to dickheads who were setting us up for a fall, but that was then. Now, we're one of several teams in with a decent chance and even the bookies are showing Derby ahead of us.

Fact is the manager is backing the current squad to get better than they currently are and we'll find out today if they've improved from the Wigan fiasco, but we're in this for the long haul and today might be a little early to take on the favourites. We'll see.

Derby were initial favourites ahead of us by one or two

Then we were on the eve of the season 

Now we're slightly behind Derby again by 0.5

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