Hs2 re-visited

[BobyBrno]

33 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Ah, that infamous commmuter route 😁

Farnworth, Moses Gate, Salford (2 stations) Manchester Victoria, Ashton U Lyne, Stalybridge. (It started in Southport) 
Regular and reliable route that you Labour activists in Bromley wouldn’t have a fucking clue about. 
Public transport isn’t just about work commuting. You socialist’s should know these things. I doubt it.

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Farnworth, Moses Gate, Salford (2 stations) Manchester Victoria, Ashton U Lyne, Stalybridge. (It started in Southport) 
Regular and reliable route that you Labour activists in Bromley wouldn’t have a fucking clue about. 
Public transport isn’t just about work commuting. You socialist’s should know these things. I doubt it.

Just out of idle curiosity, I have just had a look at trains to Manchester from Horwich tonight.

of the next 3 , 2 are running late and 1 is cancelled.

#WorldClass

 

[BobyBrno]

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

 

You may not end up in Manchester at 11.30pm too often at the weekend

😅😅 You haven’t a clue about me. 

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

😅😅 You haven’t a clue about me. 

I havent

But well done if you’ve always managed a flawless late night train service home.

Ive generally found it utterly unreliable 

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Just out of idle curiosity, I have just had a look at trains to Manchester from Horwich tonight.

of the next 3 , 2 are running late and 1 is cancelled.

#WorldClass

 

Yep. Union overtime bans. 
#backtotheseventies

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Yep. Union overtime bans. 
#backtotheseventies

Unions. Yes.

https://youtu.be/Z7W7q7pWygU?si=s3ibKixoFkvztDTA

[mickbrown]

42 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Please don’t invite me to play Sax 

Please tell me you don’t!!!

[BobyBrno]

29 minutes ago, Spider said:

 a flawless late night train service home.

In the last 12 months I’ve travelled by train, at all hours of the day, in the Uk, Czech Republic, Germany, Hong Kong, Australia and New Zealand. The concept of a ‘flawless late night train service’ does not exist. 
Where have you experienced this phenomenon?

[mickbrown]

33 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yep. Union overtime bans. 
#backtotheseventies

If any business has to rely on overtime to provide it’s normal service it’s understaffed 

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

If any business has to rely on overtime to provide it’s normal service it’s understaffed 

Ban overtime. I always said this when I was a manager. I was accused of being a Tory by the unions and socialist by the management. True story. Strange world. 

[mickbrown]

6 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Ban overtime. I always said this when I was a manager. I was accused of being a Tory by the unions and socialist by the management. True story. Strange world. 

I was once asked to stay on a customer site in Scotland and work over a bank holiday weekend.
 

They only asked once   

[tyldesley_white]

19 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

In the last 12 months I’ve travelled by train, at all hours of the day, in the Uk, Czech Republic, Germany, Hong Kong, Australia and New Zealand. The concept of a ‘flawless late night train service’ does not exist. 
Where have you experienced this phenomenon?

Holland and London (so it can be done)

 

Edited October 6, 2023 by tyldesley_white

[MickyD]

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Ban overtime. I always said this when I was a manager. I was accused of being a Tory by the unions and socialist by the management. True story. Strange world. 

Overtime bans equate to further investment in the workforce. I’m not sure any Union wouldn’t want that.

[Winchester White]

6 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Ban overtime. I always said this when I was a manager. I was accused of being a Tory by the unions and socialist by the management. True story. Strange world. 

It's a funny world and I have seen this also. However there a nuances depending on the sector and also circumstances.

Both are wrong and correct, it isn't one rule fits all.

[mickbrown]

No offence GD😀

 

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

No offence GD😀

 

Coolest instrument out there 

[BobyBrno]

Saw Junior Walker around this time in Manchester. Got a late train home no problem.😊 lovely.

 

[BobyBrno]

31 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

Holland and London (so it can be done)

 

Flawless? 

[Spider]

47 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

In the last 12 months I’ve travelled by train, at all hours of the day, in the Uk, Czech Republic, Germany, Hong Kong, Australia and New Zealand. The concept of a ‘flawless late night train service’ does not exist. 
Where have you experienced this phenomenon?

I may not have spent as much time there as you, but Germany - particularly Cologne area - was fucking perfect.

Ive been about 8 times and unless I slept on the Hauptbahnhof without realising, I don’t think a train was ever more than a few minutes late. And they were very frequent.

Not been for 4 years, it may all have collapsed.

[Spider]

Also

i don’t recall a train to one of the major suburbs (similar in size to Bolton) having a last train at 11pm with 2 carriages.

Again. Things may have changed

[BobyBrno]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

I may not have spent as much time there as you, but Germany - particularly Cologne area - was fucking perfect.

Ive been about 8 times and unless I slept on the Hauptbahnhof without realising, I don’t think a train was ever more than a few minutes late. And they were very frequent.

Not been for 4 years, it may all have collapsed.

It’s all relative. Did you travel at 11.30 pm? Travelling at different times and in different countries can give different perspectives. For me, there is little difference in services between countries I’ve travelled in. My caveat, as I’ve said previously, I don’t often travel peak time. 

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

It’s all relative. Did you travel at 11.30 pm? Travelling at different times and in different countries can give different perspectives. For me, there is little difference in services between countries I’ve travelled in. My caveat, as I’ve said previously, I don’t often travel peak time. 

Yes, late on.

Even on a Tuesday night in October the trains and teams run into the small hours and are very reliable.

Ask any regular weekend train users between Manc and Bolton and you’ll be hard pressed to get a glowing review of the train services,

[jmjhb]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Farnworth, Moses Gate, Salford (2 stations) Manchester Victoria, Ashton U Lyne, Stalybridge. (It started in Southport) 
Regular and reliable route that you Labour activists in Bromley wouldn’t have a fucking clue about. 
Public transport isn’t just about work commuting. You socialist’s should know these things. I doubt it.

There's one that goes from Kirkby to Rochdale too or something stupid

Prefer getting the trains to Salford/Victoria than Oxford Rd/Picc/airport. Doubt you would be saying the same had you got one of those, always rammed!

[mickbrown]

23 minutes ago, royal white said:

Coolest instrument out there 

Totally. And totally played by the cool kids like Kenny G and the blonde one from Spandau Ballet. 

[Spider]

27 minutes ago, royal white said:

Coolest instrument out there 

You’ve clearly never watched me play my guitar.