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My daughter who is 26 had the MMR vaccination back in 1999 and 2001, she currently works at a local NHS hospital, she had been feeling pretty poorly for quite some days, we just thought it was one of the seasonal viruses going around. Anyway, on Friday she woke up and was pretty much covered in a horrendous rash, mainly on her face, neck, palms of her hands pretty much everywhere apart from her legs.

We all panicked , like you do, you think it could be meningitis, we rang 111, who were pretty helpful and then they said we could visit our local pharmacist , who really hadn't a clue what her rash was, the pharmacist did ask the question whether my daughter had had her MMR vaccination , so I think that kind of threw the pharmacist.

Anyway, we decided to go to the walk in centre in Leigh, who were absolutely amazing , due to her rash my daughter had to be isolated into her own room, we spent maybe a couple of hours in there, a GP even had a look at her, they arranged for a swab test to come over from Wigan NHS hospital, my daughter should get the results in the next couple of days, but the walk in centre staff seemed pretty sure ahe had contacted measles.

The occupational health department (the hospital where my daughter works) contacted my daughter the same day and it looks like they traced the patient who my daughter dealt with a couple of weeks ago, it turns out to be a young 16/17 year old who we think may have been unvaccinated .

My daughter is still very poorly with Measles and is mainly sleeping, she's been told to take the maximum paracetamol and drink plenty of fluids, this is a nasty illness and I wouldn't be surprised if there is going to be a huge outbreak soon as there are supposed to be over 3 million unvaccinated people wandering around.

Get your kids vaccinated !😉

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I mentioned this a few days ago Blondi. I think my exact words were 'watch out for measles, it's about to make a comeback'. 

Another one of these illnesses that people forget how nasty they can be because it's been largely eradicated. 

And another one that's raising it's ugly head again thanks to the anti vax numpties trying to drag us back to 1890.

Glad to hear you spotted it and got seen quickly and hope she's doing OK! 

Blondi is absolutely right by the way. Get your kids vaccinated - and get vaccinated yourself if you've never had it! 👍

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2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Does the vaccine not wholly prevent the disease then, and if not, how much does it reduce the level of illness given the lass is poorly, despite being vaccinated?

2 doses gives you 97% protection against measles. 1 dose gives you around 93%......

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10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Ta.

Does that mean that for the 3% of folk, it won't work at all, or that it reduces the illness significantly for everyone?

It means if 100 people are exposed to the virus then you'd expect 3 to contract it even if they've had the vaccine. 

I don't know the exact answer to your other question in measles. Although most vaccines will mitigate some of the most serious effects even if you do contract a virus or bacterial infection, because you'll already have some t helper cells that recognise the pathogen, so it will help trigger an immune response that bit more quickly.

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5 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It means if 100 people are exposed to the virus then you'd expect 3 to contract it even if they've had the vaccine. 

I don't know the exact answer to your other question in measles. Although most vaccines will mitigate some of the most serious effects even if you do contract a virus or bacterial infection, because you'll already have some t helper cells that recognise the pathogen, so it will help trigger an immune response that bit more quickly.

Marvellous. 

I read an article about covid and the test kits recently. 

I was a little concerned that they weren't working so well, but it explained it.

As you say, our bodies now recognise the virus and respond to it much quicker, via immunity. Thus some symptoms will start earlier, and we test earlier as a result. At that point, there may not be sufficient a viral load to show as a positive. 

They were suggesting to repeat the test a few days later.

Makes sense.

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11 minutes ago, Zico said:

Youngest daughter is 10 months old but doctors won't give it her till 12 months 

So we're paying to get her done privately, about £120

Surely the Private ones willing to do it for £120 are Doctors? I'd hope so anyway.

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17 minutes ago, Zico said:

Youngest daughter is 10 months old but doctors won't give it her till 12 months 

So we're paying to get her done privately, about £120

Id be wary

Almost certain therell be good reason for delaying

@kent_white?

Im fully behind vaccines btw, winds me up if i hear

Im not bothering cos theres a risk and everybody else has had it anyway

Selfish twats

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35 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Surely the Private ones willing to do it for £120 are Doctors? I'd hope so anyway.

Yes, the NHS only do it 12 months onwards, a private one will do it before

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27 minutes ago, Casino said:

Id be wary

Almost certain therell be good reason for delaying

@kent_white?

Im fully behind vaccines btw, winds me up if i hear

Im not bothering cos theres a risk and everybody else has had it anyway

Selfish twats

We've asked medical friends and they've said it's ok and they don't blame us for doing it 

Wouldn't bother if it was our only child but as her sister is 5 and at school with a load of other kids then we're being uber cautious 

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3 minutes ago, Zico said:

Yes, the NHS only do it 12 months onwards, a private one will do it before

So it's not the Doctors, it's NHS policy as overseen by the Health Secretary. I'm sure there is a well-thought out reason why they won't vaccinate under-1's though.

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16 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Saw that Scottish loon who was ranting at Sunak on GBeebies t’other day had a heart attack before Covid rocked up on these shores. 

In fairness to him, he was just miffed that the vaccine had harmed him and the compensation wasn't particularly big.

Dunno what the settlement is, but if you're being asked to take a medicine by the authorities, I reckon it's perfectly right that you should be compensated if it buggers you up.

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1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

In fairness to him, he was just miffed that the vaccine had harmed him and the compensation wasn't particularly big.

Dunno what the settlement is, but if you're being asked to take a medicine by the authorities, I reckon it's perfectly right that you should be compensated if it buggers you up.

How did it bugger him up?

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1 minute ago, Cheese said:

So it's not the Doctors, it's NHS policy as overseen by the Health Secretary. I'm sure there is a well-thought out reason why they won't vaccinate under-1's though.

Not quite.

Antibodies are passed to the new-born by mum.

That makes giving a vaccine early somewhat ineffective/unnecessary 

By the time they're 12 months, that protection is waning. 

That policy will have been informed by scientists/doctors.

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6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not quite.

Antibodies are passed to the new-born by mum.

That makes giving a vaccine early somewhat ineffective/unnecessary 

By the time they're 12 months, that protection is waning. 

That policy will have been informed by scientists/doctors.

I don't understand your point. Why won't the NHS vaccinate under-1's against Measles if their protection is waning?

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7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He didn't say, iirc.

Just said the vaccine injured, and also referred to his mate.

There have been a good number of similar cases.

There's a surprise.

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