RUREADY2ROLL Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, L/H White said: "Still plenty credit in the bank" No way - we are going backwards Quote
tomski Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Freedman Hill Coyle at the end To name 3. Evatts been nothing but a success...unitll this wobble where its probably going to count most. It's not over yet old bean. That response is completely logical and clearly have worse records but in terms of underachieving I think only Coyle can hold a torch to him in my opinion. Let’s hope we salvage this season but nothing is telling me we will. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 I see Williams wasn’t in the squad, was he injured again or just dropped? Quote
RUREADY2ROLL Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I see Williams wasn’t in the squad, was he injured again or just dropped? Injured according to big mouth Evatt but I don’t believe a word he says Quote
L/H White Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I see Williams wasn’t in the squad, was he injured again or just dropped? Another bust up Quote
gonzo Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 23 minutes ago, tomski said: That response is completely logical and clearly have worse records but in terms of underachieving I think only Coyle can hold a torch to him in my opinion. Let’s hope we salvage this season but nothing is telling me we will. Are our players better than Derbys? Genuine question. Or are we talking about the position we were I'm before it all went tits up? Quote
tomski Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: Are our players better than Derbys? Genuine question. Or are we talking about the position we were I'm before it all went tits up? If say it’s a close call but yes I feel the team is slightly better. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 12 minutes ago, gonzo said: Are our players better than Derbys? Genuine question. Or are we talking about the position we were I'm before it all went tits up? I’d say as footballers they are as for character, grit and desire a million miles of Derbys team. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted March 30, 2024 Moderators Posted March 30, 2024 7 hours ago, Wanderlust said: What goes on is that they start to think we might have blown any chance of getting an automatic promotion spot - and they also question the manager's post match response in which he actually cited George Johnston's pre-season injury as one of the reasons we didn't win today. What he didn't bother to mention was the fact that our passing was comedic at times, their goalie could have taken the day off and our defending was tragic. None of that means that those people don't love or support the club any less than the most ardent fan - it just means they aren't blind. When we lose and / or are shit Some folk take it out on the team Some take it out on other fans Quote
Stig Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 If we don't go up I think Evatt's done. There's already a lot of fans at the games who are fed up of him, and at half time ripping into him, but staying supportive of the team during the games while there's so much to play for. It'll tip into the in game atmosphere if we're in league one next season though Quote
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted March 30, 2024 Site Supporter Posted March 30, 2024 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Evatts been nothing but a success...unitll this wobble where its probably going to count most. It's not over yet old bean. I tend to agree, but is it getting to the stage where IE is coming up with the same excuses but with different player names ? Quote
Site Supporter desperado Posted March 30, 2024 Site Supporter Posted March 30, 2024 (edited) Hard to describe my feelings after that. Love my away days, that will never change, win lose or draw. But I’m pleased I’m not going to Bristol and I’m saving my money, because from a footballing perspective, I’m sick of this rollercoaster of having a door of opportunity open to us, but not being good enough to take advantage. I think there’s some valid reasons/ excuses that have been discussed about; squad quality, selection, mentality, injuries and Evatt (even from a fan of his, he’s not immune to criticism). The game seemed to have 0-0 written all over it from minute 1. Struggled to impose ourselves. We looked flat, maybe the Charles/Baxter “thing” has affected them and maybe Evatts pre/post match comments don’t instil confidence in the rest of the team. However, I try to keep my positive outlook realistic, so here goes; - Reading should be a good day, big crowd, occasion and win. - We’ll probably get ANOTHER window of opportunity if we beat Reading as I reckon Derby will lose to Portsmouth. - Barnsley and Peterborough losing takes a little pressure off behind. - We’re not losing lots of games - We should believe we have a great opportunity to win the play-offs - Expected (beating Reading/Shrewsbury/Port Vale) things and unexpected (Us/Derby/the rest winning/losing points in other games) will still happen, so it’s not over yet. Edited March 30, 2024 by desperado Quote
gonzo Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 11 minutes ago, desperado said: Hard to describe my feelings after that. Love my away days, that will never change, win lose or draw. But I’m pleased I’m not going to Bristol and I’m saving my money, because from a footballing perspective, I’m sick of this rollercoaster of having a door of opportunity open to us, but not being good enough to take advantage. I think there’s some valid reasons/ excuses that have been discussed about; squad quality, selection, mentality and Evatt (even from a fan of his, he’s not immune to criticism). The game seemed to have 0-0 written all over it from minute 1. Struggled to impose ourselves. We looked flat, maybe the Charles/Baxter “thing” has affected them and maybe Evatts pre/post match comments don’t instil confidence in the rest of the team. However, I try to keep my positive outlook realistic, so here goes; - Reading should be a good day, big crowd, occasion and win. - We’ll probably get ANOTHER window of opportunity if we beat Reading as I reckon Derby will lose to Portsmouth. - Barnsley and Peterborough losing takes a little pressure off behind. - We’re not losing lots of games - We should believe we have a great opportunity to win the play-offs - Expected (beating Reading/Shrewsbury/Port Vale) things and unexpected (Us/Derby/the rest winning/losing points in other games) will still happen, so it’s not over yet. Great Post. Its the hope that kills and all that. Just got to keep going haven't we. On current form Barnsley and Posh are nothing to worry about in Play Offs. Where's them straws? Quote
radcliffe white Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 15 minutes ago, desperado said: Hard to describe my feelings after that. Love my away days, that will never change, win lose or draw. But I’m pleased I’m not going to Bristol and I’m saving my money, because from a footballing perspective, I’m sick of this rollercoaster of having a door of opportunity open to us, but not being good enough to take advantage. I think there’s some valid reasons/ excuses that have been discussed about; squad quality, selection, mentality and Evatt (even from a fan of his, he’s not immune to criticism). The game seemed to have 0-0 written all over it from minute 1. Struggled to impose ourselves. We looked flat, maybe the Charles/Baxter “thing” has affected them and maybe Evatts pre/post match comments don’t instil confidence in the rest of the team. However, I try to keep my positive outlook realistic, so here goes; - Reading should be a good day, big crowd, occasion and win. - We’ll probably get ANOTHER window of opportunity if we beat Reading as I reckon Derby will lose to Portsmouth. - Barnsley and Peterborough losing takes a little pressure off behind. - We’re not losing lots of games - We should believe we have a great opportunity to win the play-offs - Expected (beating Reading/Shrewsbury/Port Vale) things and unexpected (Us/Derby/the rest winning/losing points in other games) will still happen, so it’s not over yet. Seen you had a word with that guy slagging Coleman off at half time, why would someone give him shit like that? Quote
athywhite1958 Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’d say as footballers they are as for character, grit and desire a million miles of Derbys team. All down to man management, you want players to perform at heir peak all the time you have to man manage them appropriately Quote
Site Supporter desperado Posted March 30, 2024 Site Supporter Posted March 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Seen you had a word with that guy slagging Coleman off at half time, why would someone give him shit like that? Fucking hell I was fuming. If I’d have stopped to engage in further conversation/confrontation it might not have ended well, probably for me rather than him, he looked a crackpot. 🤣 But honestly, calling Coleman shit and a wanker within earshot is the work of a madman. Coleman had a decent game as well! Not that that should have any bearing whatsoever. These “fans” are up there if not top of the tree for negative things to moan about. As @CSW will vouch for I needed some calming down after that! 🤣 Quote
gonzo Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Seen you had a word with that guy slagging Coleman off at half time, why would someone give him shit like that? Why does it go like this It's just not going to help anybody. Quote
W.cramp Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’d say as footballers they are as for character, grit and desire a million miles of Derbys team. The same derby team that lost their heads against Northampton last week ? Quote
W.cramp Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: Why does it go like this It's just not going to help anybody. Think it's because of Colemans hair to be honest. He's holding onto it like Trafford used to hold onto the ball on thr ground after minute 75. Let it go mr Coleman let it go. Quote
tomski Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 13 minutes ago, desperado said: Fucking hell I was fuming. If I’d have stopped to engage in further conversation/confrontation it might not have ended well, probably for me rather than him, he looked a crackpot. 🤣 But honestly, calling Coleman shit and a wanker within earshot is the work of a madman. Coleman had a decent game as well! Not that that should have any bearing whatsoever. These “fans” are up there if not top of the tree for negative things to moan about. As @CSW will vouch for I needed some calming down after that! 🤣 Fair play. As you said. Really not needed or constructive at all. Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 1 hour ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Injured according to big mouth Evatt but I don’t believe a word he says Dear me. Is that because he has'nt be able to tell you the exact nature of injuries to key players and exactly when they will return. Quote
Rizlar Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 We can still go up automatically it’s not gone yet but do the players believe it and as several posters have said mentally they are weak and too easily beaten on the pitch. IE needs to believe it as well he looks a beaten man atm which must pass onto the players? Quote
Stig Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, Rizlar said: We can still go up automatically it’s not gone yet but do the players believe it and as several posters have said mentally they are weak and too easily beaten on the pitch. IE needs to believe it as well he looks a beaten man atm which must pass onto the players? This is a good point tbh. Evatt looks completely spent and fed up. He needs to buck up before the play offs as his negativity can't be helping the team Quote
radcliffe white Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 30 minutes ago, desperado said: Fucking hell I was fuming. If I’d have stopped to engage in further conversation/confrontation it might not have ended well, probably for me rather than him, he looked a crackpot. 🤣 But honestly, calling Coleman shit and a wanker within earshot is the work of a madman. Coleman had a decent game as well! Not that that should have any bearing whatsoever. These “fans” are up there if not top of the tree for negative things to moan about. As @CSW will vouch for I needed some calming down after that! 🤣 Yeah he was off his tits, after you went past he needed the advertising boards to keep him up swaying all over Like you say earshot must’ve been 10 yards away the prick Quote
wakey Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 29 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: All down to man management, you want players to perform at heir peak all the time you have to man manage them appropriately This 100%. Talk of mentality and leadership all comes down to management. I know we've had injuries and fixture congestion, but imo how Evatt's handled it has been poor. He should be relentlessly 100% positive. Congestion should have been "a fantastic opportunity for the lads to gain some real momentum - we're footballers, we love playing games of football." Injuries should have been " a great opportunity for the lads coming into the side", a chance to show off our squad depth. None of it should have been "brutal", he should not have been lamenting lack of time on the grass, or saying we just need to get through to the international break, or look forward to when the pitches are better. All comes across as whining and excuses at a time when we need leadership. I'm far from a knee-jerk get rid type of fan, but I really feel he's handled the last couple of months really poorly. Quote
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