Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 15, 2024 Site Supporter Posted May 15, 2024 Been shot after a government meeting. Quote
BobyBrno Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 According to the BBC report just now, it’s sent shock waves across Europe. Obviously not on WW. My experience is that most on here aren’t that bothered about Europe. Unless it includes the word Brexit. 😉 Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 15, 2024 Author Site Supporter Posted May 15, 2024 23 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: According to the BBC report just now, it’s sent shock waves across Europe. Obviously not on WW. My experience is that most on here aren’t that bothered about Europe. Unless it includes the word Brexit. 😉 Aye. It's actually quite significant in that he is a bit pro-Russia and has some views that might be considered anathema to folk elsewhere. Nevertheless, he is an elected pm. Quite a bit of instability now in Eastern Europe, with Georgia having its issues. No doubt Russia is having an input into things too- even been suggested that this is a false flag exercise, but I don't think so. Quote
BobyBrno Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Aye. It's actually quite significant in that he is a bit pro-Russia and has some views that might be considered anathema to folk elsewhere. Nevertheless, he is an elected pm. Quite a bit of instability now in Eastern Europe, with Georgia having its issues. No doubt Russia is having an input into things too- even been suggested that this is a false flag exercise, but I don't think so. The bloke who shot him is being reported as pro Russian and pro Western by others. A 71 year old poet and writer. Maybe just another nutter. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 15, 2024 Author Site Supporter Posted May 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: The bloke who shot him is being reported as pro Russian and pro Western by others. A 71 year old poet and writer. Maybe just another nutter. Maybe. Some anti-terror type bloke saying this wasn't a professional hit, as he fired several times, but not necessarily in the best place! Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 15, 2024 Site Supporter Posted May 15, 2024 4 hours ago, BobyBrno said: According to the BBC report just now, it’s sent shock waves across Europe. Obviously not on WW. My experience is that most on here aren’t that bothered about Europe. Unless it includes the word Brexit. 😉 Obsessed 😁 Quote
Moderators Zico Posted May 15, 2024 Moderators Posted May 15, 2024 why aren't the BBC covering this as headline news? Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 8 hours ago, Spider said: Obsessed 😁 😂 My experience on here - hark at his nibs. Maybe he thinks this is a Franz Ferdinand moment and therefore I will accept nothing less than hourly updates from BB as he's obviously the only person on here to watch the news. Quote
BobyBrno Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 He’s alive! It was on the BBC. WWlll averted.👍 Quote
Members bolty58 Posted May 16, 2024 Members Posted May 16, 2024 26 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: He’s alive! It was on the BBC. WWlll averted.👍 Not another FF moment then. No, not cup size Whitt. Quote
BobyBrno Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 (edited) Nearer to home, Geert Wilders has finally formed a Right Wing coalition Government in Holland. Interesting times ahead over there. Edited May 16, 2024 by BobyBrno Quote
Sweep Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 14 hours ago, BobyBrno said: According to the BBC report just now, it’s sent shock waves across Europe. Obviously not on WW. My experience is that most on here aren’t that bothered about Europe. Unless it includes the word Brexit. 😉 I'd wager your average person in the UK doesn't give a toss if some Slovakian they've never heard of has been shot or not. Quote
BobyBrno Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 12 minutes ago, Sweep said: I'd wager your average person in the UK doesn't give a toss if some Slovakian they've never heard of has been shot or not. The average person didn’t give a toss when Russia invaded Crimea but did when their energy and food prices went up. I’m not saying it’s going to lead to a Russian invasion but any political instability in that area could have far reaching consequences. The BBC have been leading with the story for two days so they think it’s important. Quote
kent_white Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 1 hour ago, BobyBrno said: The average person didn’t give a toss when Russia invaded Crimea but did when their energy and food prices went up. I’m not saying it’s going to lead to a Russian invasion but any political instability in that area could have far reaching consequences. The BBC have been leading with the story for two days so they think it’s important. I'll be totally honest here. I didn't even pay much attention when Russia invaded Crimea. I don't think I really understood the implications of it at the time. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 10 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'll be totally honest here. I didn't even pay much attention when Russia invaded Crimea. I don't think I really understood the implications of it at the time. There was only BB who really understood the significance. The rest of us are just mindless sheeple 😁 Quote
Sweep Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 1 hour ago, BobyBrno said: The average person didn’t give a toss when Russia invaded Crimea but did when their energy and food prices went up. I’m not saying it’s going to lead to a Russian invasion but any political instability in that area could have far reaching consequences. The BBC have been leading with the story for two days so they think it’s important. I didn't say it wasn't important, I'm just saying the average bloke on the streets probably isn't overly interested. The same as the Ukraine/Russian war, in reality, nobody really gives a toss anymore, especially now that "Britains Got Talent" is back on the telly The point I'm getting to, is that the general public are generally apathetic to anything that doesn't show an immediate effect on their wallets/purses. Quote
Sweep Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 32 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'll be totally honest here. I didn't even pay much attention when Russia invaded Crimea. I don't think I really understood the implications of it at the time. I'm not sure anybody really paid any attention or cared, there certainly wasn't the outpouring of outrage that we've seen with the Ukrainian invasion. Quote
royal white Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 11 minutes ago, Sweep said: I'm not sure anybody really paid any attention or cared, there certainly wasn't the outpouring of outrage that we've seen with the Ukrainian invasion. Or the Israel/Palestine conflict. Quote
Sweep Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 Just now, royal white said: Or the Israel/Palestine conflict. indeed, and I'll be brutally honest, I really don't give a toss about that spat. It has though "taken over" on the news from the Ukraine war, so it must be more important to some people. (and obviously both are far more important than the numerous other wars/conflicts currently underway in the world) Just wait until China tries it on with Taiwan in 2025, that'll be the big one, and will take over from the above two conflicts in "importance" with regards to reporting/coverage and the publics share of mind Quote
kent_white Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 17 minutes ago, Sweep said: I'm not sure anybody really paid any attention or cared, there certainly wasn't the outpouring of outrage that we've seen with the Ukrainian invasion. I'm not sure I really even understood that Crimea was part of the Ukraine. I had it in my head that it was more like the Chechnya War. I don't claim to be a student of history though 😁 Quote
kent_white Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 8 minutes ago, royal white said: Or the Israel/Palestine conflict. True - but I think Israel and Palestine is/was a conflict we were all better versed in and at least had a bit of an understanding. And as Brits we have some 'skin in the game' given that the state of Israel was largely our idea. Quote
Site Supporter fatolive Posted May 16, 2024 Site Supporter Posted May 16, 2024 4 hours ago, Sweep said: I'd wager your average person in the UK doesn't give a toss if some Slovakian they've never heard of has been shot or not. Aye, I agree, not like leaders getting shot over in Eastern /central Europe has ever affected Britain in anyway shape or form in the past so why the big fuss … Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 16, 2024 Author Site Supporter Posted May 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, fatolive said: Aye, I agree, not like leaders getting shot over in Eastern /central Europe has ever affected Britain in anyway shape or form in the past so why the big fuss … He's right in that it doesn't particularly ring any alarm bells over here. There certainly won't be any mass protests etc. Yet it does have the potential to be more critical (certainly in the longer term) than problems further away. Quote
kent_white Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 19 minutes ago, fatolive said: Aye, I agree, not like leaders getting shot over in Eastern /central Europe has ever affected Britain in anyway shape or form in the past so why the big fuss … First thing I thought as well. There's absolutely no historical precedent for this kind of thing causing problems internationally 🤣 Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 16, 2024 Author Site Supporter Posted May 16, 2024 1 minute ago, kent_white said: First thing I thought as well. There's absolutely no historical precedent for this kind of thing causing problems internationally 🤣 There have been some stark warnings recently from a number of high profile current and former military types, that I felt were greatly over-hyped. Doom laden predictions of war with Russia within just a few years. Yet Scandinavian countries have joined NATO, thrown in their independent approach, and countries all over hugely increasing military spending. Balkans still laden with issues, and former soviet states likewise. Putin is one massively dangerous fucker. Quote
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