No Henderson in the provisional squad 

1 minute ago, Casino said:

What are Jordans qualifications to comment?

Same as anyone else's that not played professionally?

 

8 hours ago, Stig said:

Definitely. We're sacrificing prime Foden for Trent out of position. I don't get it

This.

Listening to the commentariat it seems to be a current requirement to adore Trent. But he's experimental so far & not up to it yet as shown in that match.

Pick your best & play them in their best position.

Edited June 19, 20242 yr by Dr. Feelgood

Just now, Casino said:

Thats before we look at Abonglahor

Why do people swallow this shit, ffs

Swallow what shit?

It's just some dudes including an ex pro talking about football. 

What's the big deal?

 

Germany the standout team after the first round of games for me. 

22 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Germany the standout team after the first round of games for me. 

They played Scotland FFS.

A WW 11 would give the Jocks a game.

Apparently, Spain's match last week was the first time in 136 consecutive competitive matches they hadn't finished with a majority of the posession

Stretching back to 2012

Today was like Hatton vs Tzu followed by Eddie Hall vs the midgets

Two smaller sides going toe to toe, followed by a bit of bore between a giant and fairly decent nation broke into pieces… enjoyed the former

Anyone know what "No N. E. T. A." on a Scottshish flag means ?

Just now, Dr. Feelgood said:

Anyone know what "No N. E. T. A." on a Scottshish flag means ?

?? Tartan Army?

Excellent first round of games. Thought they’d be some right duffers in it considering it’s harder to not qualify these days. 
 

I’m sure it will come but I suppose by the fact you can qualify by winning one game it keeps to the wire.

Hopefully more to come.

10 hours ago, TrickyTrotter said:

Leaks like OLD TRAFFORD

Trains like Northern Rail.

Whatever happened to the German economic miracle.

 

8 hours ago, Stig said:

Definitely. We're sacrificing prime Foden for Trent out of position. I don't get it

To be fair, we're sacrificing Foden so we can play Bellingham further forward

But I agree with the general point

Thought I'd post this link, not my personal opinion but thought some may be interested in coverage of England from outside of the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/17/euro-2024-daily-enter-england

7 hours ago, L/H White said:

Germany the standout team after the first round of games for me. 

They will go far but be wary of fast starters in tournaments. Having said that, they were playing the hapless jocks so probably under performed.

With this in mind, they will likely go far in this comp. France yet to fire. England yet to fire. Watch for the gradual improvers before placing your bet on the likely winner.

8 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Wasn't me who made the comment about not watching England amigo.

Is that an old picture of Tom Waites cerca 1975 BTW?

Oh yes quite, and yes it is indeed - good spot! 😁

Edited June 19, 20242 yr by Not in Crawley

I still can't work up any enthusiasm for football. Seen very little so far, the odd half here and there - including England, only saw 2nd half of that

4 hours ago, perth_white said:

Thought I'd post this link, not my personal opinion but thought some may be interested in coverage of England from outside of the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/17/euro-2024-daily-enter-england

That's a good summary tbh. I'm not looking forward to tomorrow, but should be in throws of it by now.

1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said:

I still can't work up any enthusiasm for football. Seen very little so far, the odd half here and there - including England, only saw 2nd half of that

Play off hangover… im in same malaise. 

Edited June 19, 20242 yr by Mounts Kipper

24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Play off hangover… im in same malaise. 

Similar, but watching a few bits.

Not as many flags out on houses this time neither, but a few more have appeared as the days have progressed. 

11 hours ago, gonzo said:

Swallow what shit?

It's just some dudes including an ex pro talking about football. 

What's the big deal?

 

Exactly. 

If folk don't enjoy it, turn the chatty bit off after a game, and don't listen to podcasts- about football!

 

1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said:

I still can't work up any enthusiasm for football. Seen very little so far, the odd half here and there - including England, only saw 2nd half of that

I was like that mate, but now eyeing a QF trip up😀

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Exactly. 

If folk don't enjoy it, turn the chatty bit off after a game, and don't listen to podcasts- about football!

 

Not sure If it's an age thing or perhaps the box tickers fault but I find mesel turning the volume off at h.time and turning over 2 mins after a game ends nowadays.   

5 hours ago, perth_white said:

Thought I'd post this link, not my personal opinion but thought some may be interested in coverage of England from outside of the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/17/euro-2024-daily-enter-england

It right annoyed me that.  We're generally a self deprecating bunch us English but to suggest that somehow we'd spoiled some festival of football by our opening performance is well wide of the mark imo. Putting aside the fact we scored 12 goals in our last 2 opening world cup games, the booing of the anthems, as bad as that is, was actually started by the Serbs. 

It's been nice these last few days to see pics on Twitter of normal England fans, having a drink with opposing fans, being respectful of their environment etc.  You could be forgiven they exist thanks to all the attention given to the mongalongs and the 2 world wars & 1 world cup lot.

5 hours ago, perth_white said:

Thought I'd post this link, not my personal opinion but thought some may be interested in coverage of England from outside of the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/17/euro-2024-daily-enter-england

BUT WE WON 

This line sums up my issue with our approach so far 

Trent Alexander-Arnold was asked to learn a central position that isn’t his on the job at a major tournament, because every now and again he might hit a nice pass or shot.

11 hours ago, gonzo said:

Same as anyone else's that not played professionally?

 

It's been 18 years since Alan Shearer retired and 30 years since Lineker retired and the game has changed immeasurably since then so I don't see having played professionally as any sort of qualification. That said, I find some people who haven't played with good players tend to talk in cliches and don't really understand what the difficulties of playing under pressure are like.

Commentators who say "he failed to connect with the cross" when the cross was just too high/early/late/out of reach or "he couldn't control it" when the pass was misplaced or there were two others challenging for it grind my gears a bit.

I never played at the pro level, but I've played with/against folk who have and only then do you realise how quick, strong, skilful - and injury-free you have to be just to get a sniff of making a living as a pro footballer.

You don't have to be a pro to discuss it sensibly, but it does help if you have some experience of how hard it is to consistently play great football - especially under pressure from other great players - and although I slip into slagging players off occasionally, I genuinely admire the lot of them - they are all proper dedicated athletes.

 

Edited June 19, 20242 yr by Wanderlust