Wrexham (H)

[burnden]

8 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Sure. Maybe you could post a recording of them speaking English then switching to Welsh as soon as you enter the room? 😁

[Mounts Kipper]

Any how I sat next to Wyn Davies couple of years ago and he said when he signed for Bolton he only spoke Welsh. Non interesting Welsh speaking tale. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, burnden said:

😱

[desperado]

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Any how I sat next to Wyn Davies couple of years ago and he said when he signed for Bolton he only spoke Welsh…….

When English folk were around 🤣

 

[bolton va va]

On our last ever family holiday near St Davids, my brother and myself called in the village ( Dinas ) pub where they were speaking in English but they switched to Welsh when they heard us order our drinks.

Since then, i've worked a season at Pwhelli & stayed over in Llanberis, Llandudno, Barmouth & several times in Swansea without hearing any Welsh.( not surprising in Pwhelli, they were nearly all scousers !! )

So, it isn't a myth, it does happen but it isn't widespread.

[Farrelli]

44 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Moronic English exceptionalism and xenophobia. "How dare they speak their native language in their own country!? They must only be speaking it to annoy me!"

I’m in France currently and the cheeky twats are speaking French. 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, bolton va va said:

On our last ever family holiday near St Davids, my brother and myself called in the village ( Dinas ) pub where they were speaking in English but they switched to Welsh when they heard us order our drinks.

Since then, i've worked a season at Pwhelli & stayed over in Llanberis, Llandudno, Barmouth & several times in Swansea without hearing any Welsh.( not surprising in Pwhelli, they were nearly all scousers !! )

So, it isn't a myth, it does happen but it isn't widespread.

Of course it's a myth. Why the fuck would someone wait for a particular person to arrive, then switch language, rather than just speak it all the time?

Edited August 12, 2024 by Cheese

[Steejay]

1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

I’m in France currently and the cheeky twats are speaking French. 

Wait till you order at the bar and they’ll all start speaking Welsh.

[Mounts Kipper]

8 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I wouldn't be surprised if you suspect Spanish people speak to each other in English until you walk in the room.

What’s it like living your life as a bell end? 

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, bolton va va said:

On our last ever family holiday near St Davids, my brother and myself called in the village ( Dinas ) pub where they were speaking in English but they switched to Welsh when they heard us order our drinks.

Since then, i've worked a season at Pwhelli & stayed over in Llanberis, Llandudno, Barmouth & several times in Swansea without hearing any Welsh.( not surprising in Pwhelli, they were nearly all scousers !! )

So, it isn't a myth, it does happen but it isn't widespread.

My old fella said this 40 years ago when he used to go pub when on holiday in wales… also said they served all the welshies first before him. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

What’s it like living your life as a bell end? 

Fuck me. You actually do think Spanish people speak English to each other, and only switch to Spanish when they see the fat white Brit approaching. 😂

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

My old fella said this 40 years ago when he used to go pub when on holiday in wales… also said they served all the welshies first before him. 

At least we know where you get it from.

[Dr. Feelgood]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Are you saying I'm lying?

5 English contractors in a canteen full of Welshers. Do you not think we would stand out?

It's just a pisstake isn't it. They do it for a laugh.

Why would anyone make something like that up ffs?

I'm saying you've misinterpreted something.

The possibility that a whole canteen in Tetra Pak, Wrexham, would be ABLE to all speak Welsh, let alone switch because 5 English walked in is ridiculous.

I'm also assuming you didn't walk in wearing Crusader tops.

Wrexham, even today, has next to no fluent Welsh speakers. That Industrial Estate is one mile from the English border in Holt, maybe 5 miles at Pulford & 5 at Whitchurch. Most employees are from Wrexham but I'd say 30% of so from England.

I've managed or been consulrant in 4 factories of 500-800 people there I live 2 miles from it & it literally couldn't happen.

So I'm not calling you a liar, I'd never do that, but I'm saying you were led on somehow & were mistaken.

[Casino]

25 minutes ago, bolton va va said:

On our last ever family holiday near St Davids, my brother and myself called in the village ( Dinas ) pub where they were speaking in English but they switched to Welsh when they heard us order our drinks.

Since then, i've worked a season at Pwhelli & stayed over in Llanberis, Llandudno, Barmouth & several times in Swansea without hearing any Welsh.( not surprising in Pwhelli, they were nearly all scousers !! )

So, it isn't a myth, it does happen but it isn't widespread.

barmouths full of wolves

no foxes, just wolves

[leef78]

Went on holiday a few years back to anice B&B in Abergavviny or whatever the fuck its called, went to the local pub, everone talking English, we ordered our drinks and half of them started talking Welsh, couldn't of made us feel more unwelcome if they tried. Never been back to Wales except for wedding recently. They really don't like us for some reason. Fuck em. No idea ifs wider spread in Wals but they certainly didn't like us. 

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

I'm saying you've misinterpreted something.

The possibility that a whole canteen in Tetra Pak, Wrexham, would be ABLE to all speak Welsh, let alone switch because 5 English walked in is ridiculous.

I'm also assuming you didn't walk in wearing Crusader tops.

Wrexham, even today, has next to no fluent Welsh speakers. That Industrial Estate is one mile from the English border in Holt, maybe 5 miles at Pulford & 5 at Whitchurch. Most employees are from Wrexham but I'd say 30% of so from England.

I've managed or been consulrant in 4 factories of 500-800 people there I live 2 miles from it & it literally couldn't happen.

So I'm not calling you a liar, I'd never do that, but I'm saying you were led on somehow & were mistaken.

I'm saying some lads on nearby tables spoke some Welsh while we were in there.

I could literally cobble together a Welsh sentence now based on fucking road signs alone.

It was just an in joke by the shop floor lads to unnerve 5 contractors. 

So thanks for your input, but you are wrong. 

So fuck off.

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, leef78 said:

Went on holiday a few years back to anice B&B in Abergavviny or whatever the fuck its called, went to the local pub, everone talking English, we ordered our drinks and half of them started talking Welsh, couldn't of made us feel more unwelcome if they tried. Never been back to Wales except for wedding recently. They really don't like us for some reason. Fuck em. No idea ifs wider spread in Wals but they certainly didn't like us. 

English exceptionalism and paranoia is clearly a very strong and widely felt emotion.  😁

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

I'm saying some lads on nearby tables spoke some Welsh while we were in there.

I could literally cobble together a Welsh sentence now based on fucking road signs alone.

It was just an in joke by the shop floor lads to unnerve 5 contractors. 

So thanks for your input, but you are wrong. 

So fuck off.

Maybe you should have tried "integrating"?

[Leyther_Matt]

Another hand raised here. Sat in a pub in Caernarfon where the locals (bedecked in Man Utd tops, of course) were speaking in English until they heard us order our drinks and switched to Welsh.

There is of course an element of urban myth to it, too, as there are so many words in the English language that don’t have a Welsh equivalent to the extent that it sounds like they’re taking the piss. Which, of course, is exactly what they were doing.

Go and have a Solero, Cheese. Just make sure you order it in Welsh. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Another hand raised here. Sat in a pub in Caernarfon where the locals (bedecked in Man Utd tops, of course) were speaking in English until they heard us order our drinks and switched to Welsh.

There is of course an element of urban myth to it, too, as there are so many words in the English language that don’t have a Welsh equivalent to the extent that it sounds like they’re taking the piss. Which, of course, is exactly what they were doing.

Go and have a Solero, Cheese. Just make sure you order it in Welsh. 

Sorry to break it to you, but nobody in that pub gave a fuck where you were from, or changed their language just to wind you up. This entire scenario only exists in the minds of insecure English men.

[gonzo]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Maybe you should have tried "integrating"?

I did. I sang some Tom Jones and wanked off a sheep.

Then everybody clapped.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Despite these poor experiences, I must say I've also has several holidays in the country, and things have been fine.

Might be wrong, but I think much of it occurs in the north/west. 

Dunno why that would be the case.

 

[Farrelli]

25 minutes ago, Cheese said:

English exceptionalism and paranoia is clearly a very strong and widely felt emotion.  😁

It really is. Other favourites are Germans nicking all the towels. The most arrogant people I meet abroad are usually English. 

[MancWanderer]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Despite these poor experiences, I must say I've also has several holidays in the country, and things have been fine.

Might be wrong, but I think much of it occurs in the north/west. 

Dunno why that would be the case.

 

Same. I’ve been on holidays all over Wales and spent many Saturdays cycling in North Wales. Was in Talacre and Abagele this last Saturday. Never once experienced it myself.

That said, the parents of my pal when I was a kid had a caravan in Conwy. His mum had inherited it off her parents so had been going for donkeys years and had learned to speak Welsh

She went into the local grocer’s one day and the two women in there were speaking Welsh (no idea if they were talking English beforehand) and said summat along the lines of “Oh great, here’s that obnoxious fat midget”. She put her shopping on the counter and told them to stick it where the sun don’t shine in Welsh

To be fair to them they were technically correct . She’d learned the language but hadn’t integrated that well @Cheese by being obnoxious when she was in Wales. So you do have a point of sorts about that aspect

The bloke from Cardiff, in our business unit at work, despises the North Welsh. Says they are all scouse immigrants. But he’s a cunt anyway

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Ignorance is also high amongst a few.