Are many going on Tuesday?

I know a lot want us to get knocked out early but I see it as another good opportunity for fringe players to get game time, and anyone who is playing poorly to bounce back. 

 

4-1 Bolton

I hope someone steals the batteries out of my fire stick remote.

18 hours ago, Casino said:

fine me

theres fuck all to be gained by playing the first team

It's pretty easy to get round the rules and no need to play anything approaching a first team. The rules are you need 4 outfield player "first teamers" who they classify as, either having started the last league or start the next (defenders/attackers we rotate would be good here), someone with 40 first team appearances in their career (older backups fine here), or players on loan from cat A academies (we usually have a glut of these, not too many this season though).

So no reason at all to play more than 4 first teamers, and even some of them could be non-regulars. We keep choosing to put out overly strong teams.

1 hour ago, Stig said:

It's pretty easy to get round the rules and no need to play anything approaching a first team. The rules are you need 4 outfield player "first teamers" who they classify as, either having started the last league or start the next (defenders/attackers we rotate would be good here), someone with 40 first team appearances in their career (older backups fine here), or players on loan from cat A academies (we usually have a glut of these, not too many this season though).

So no reason at all to play more than 4 first teamers, and even some of them could be non-regulars. We keep choosing to put out overly strong teams.

But if we play a weakened team and get beat it just give the IE out brigade more fuel.

5 minutes ago, freds dad said:

But if we play a weakened team and get beat it just give the IE out brigade more fuel.

Surely no one is getting wound up about this one

7 minutes ago, tomski said:

Surely no one is getting wound up about this one

The keyboard warriors will be out in force if we don't win

I just want to see an encouraging performance whoever plays 

Not that it means much based on our encouraging performance at Shrewsbury and subsequent shit show v Exeter 

Would be good to see McAtee and Collins get their first goals though

15 minutes ago, Zico said:

I just want to see an encouraging performance whoever plays 

 

 

So do I, and I was just about to post that we saw that against Shrewsbury ... and then I read your second line.

44 minutes ago, freds dad said:

But if we play a weakened team and get beat it just give the IE out brigade more fuel.

Not necessarily, many want us out of this competition anyway so I’m not sure they’d be overly bothered if we lose so we can concentrate on more important matters. You don’t want to lose any game but in terms of importance this one is surely way down there?

4 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Not necessarily, many want us out of this competition anyway so I’m not sure they’d be overly bothered if we lose so we can concentrate on more important matters. You don’t want to lose any game but in terms of importance this one is surely way down there?

Zero importance for our season goals but the game has become incredibly important for confidence, both with the players and the fans. Lose this and knives are well and truly out. 

Surely if they are tired, then we freshen it up. 

I never want to lose but if we didn’t win tonight I’d still sleep easy.

 

 

2 hours ago, Stig said:

It's pretty easy to get round the rules and no need to play anything approaching a first team. The rules are you need 4 outfield player "first teamers" who they classify as, either having started the last league or start the next (defenders/attackers we rotate would be good here), someone with 40 first team appearances in their career (older backups fine here), or players on loan from cat A academies (we usually have a glut of these, not too many this season though).

So no reason at all to play more than 4 first teamers, and even some of them could be non-regulars. We keep choosing to put out overly strong teams.

Have a look at the report in the BN.

According to IE, that's why he put certain players on the bench on Saturday- so they're available for tonight.

Toal has a grade 2 muscle tear- and will be out for 2 or 3 weeks. Yet NI have still called him up!

Arfield has a hamstring injury, so he's also out.

Does beg the question about training methods- Toal isn't the first to get crocked during those sessions. 

No NEED to win as such. Just that there's a need to show better. No game till the 14th so the question is whether to give the first XI a run out looking at sorting themselves out ... or stick with a hybrid team & give others a run out.

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Have a look at the report in the BN.

According to IE, that's why he put certain players on the bench on Saturday- so they're available for tonight.

Toal has a grade 2 muscle tear- and will be out for 2 or 3 weeks. Yet NI have still called him up!

Arfield has a hamstring injury, so he's also out.

Does beg the question about training methods- Toal isn't the first to get crocked during those sessions. 

Yeah I didn't get that at all. The rules are "started" either previous or subsequent league game, so adding youngsters to the bench v Exeter makes no difference

1 minute ago, Stig said:

Yeah I didn't get that at all. The rules are "started" either previous or subsequent league game, so adding youngsters to the bench v Exeter makes no difference

Good point.

It's the same story too- umpteen players unavailable, some on international duty, and plenty injured.

Others fatigued.

Why?

Don't get to do many aways but in for this one, I coach in Barrow every Tuesday night so works in perfectly and another ground to tick off too

1 hour ago, tomski said:

Surely no one is getting wound up about this one

Correct, not sure we should be that arsed about this comp this year, do what we have to do team-wise to comply with the rules, get through the games unscathed and hopefully put in some encouraging performances. 

Won't be easy tonight, Barrow have started their season well, some good operators for the level. 

What happens v Huddersfield and Reading will be the definers for Evatt

1 hour ago, Zico said:

I just want to see an encouraging performance whoever plays 

Not that it means much based on our encouraging performance at Shrewsbury and subsequent shit show v Exeter 

Would be good to see McAtee and Collins get their first goals though

Exactly.

If McAtee or Collins score its about as relevant as who scores in a practise game in training, they aren't kids desperate to show what they can do against anyone.  We won't even be playing Barrow's first team. 

Last year we scored 27 goals in 7 EFL and FA cup games between Sep and early Jan.  

JDB and Dan scored 10 on their own!  Means nothing when it comes to the games that matter.

As usual with these games, just avoid injuries to key players.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Have a look at the report in the BN.

According to IE, that's why he put certain players on the bench on Saturday- so they're available for tonight.

Toal has a grade 2 muscle tear- and will be out for 2 or 3 weeks. Yet NI have still called him up!

Arfield has a hamstring injury, so he's also out.

Does beg the question about training methods- Toal isn't the first to get crocked during those sessions. 

Don't worry the cavalry are coming back next month 😀

may as well play the first team 

with no game Sat 

1 hour ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Don't get to do many aways but in for this one, I coach in Barrow every Tuesday night so works in perfectly and another ground to tick off too

If I coached in Barrow on Tuesdays, I'd still not go. Is your day not bleak enough already?

16 minutes ago, Traf said:

If I coached in Barrow on Tuesdays, I'd still not go. Is your day not bleak enough already?

If the game was being played in my back garden I'd drive to Barrow to get away from it.

Just now, gonzo said:

If the game was being played in my back garden I'd drive to Barrow to get away from it.

🤣

 

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

If the game was being played in my back garden I'd drive to Barrow to get away from it.

That's a new low.

Tricky selection, normallyl i'd pick the weakest possible team to try & get knocked out of this cup ( which isn't that easy ! ) but our new players need to play to get up to speed.

Absolutely not writing anyone off, it's much too soon for that, but so far Schon, McAtee, Tutu, Forino & Matete haven't shown enough to be 1st team starters so i'd play them all tonight ( plus the new keeper who has done well )

Of course the danger is that someone gets crocked !!