New Poll - Evatt

[onefinfrandsen]

1 minute ago, radcliffe white said:

I honestly don’t think they’d make a difference that’s just me 

Fair enough, just think right now we need everyone on board, even if they end up playing just a handful of games .

[little whitt]

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[tomski]

20 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

Lolos and Jones?

 

I am in the 5/10 games camp, but 5 is max really. 

My concern now is the patience and support has gone, so any poor result and fans will get on his and the teams back, even if a good run is put together. That is very hard to repair and so it can't be drawn out 

I genuinely don’t think the fans will get on his back. Apathy will reign. You could see it yesterday. 
 

[desperado]

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I voted to part company now

If voting to give him more time though, it'd surely have to be longer than the next 5 because he needs to prove he can beat the club's expected to be in and around the play-off hunt

It's no good giving him the next 5 and then we get beat by Birmingham, Stockport and Rotherham in the next 5

Flipping the scenario. I put 5 in because if the form continues/gets worse I wouldn't want to wait till 10. But if 5 games sees an up-turn I want to see it continue beyond 5 games to see whether Evatt has the potential to sustain it.

[Zico]

Went with 5/10 games 

Really I'm looking at the next 4 league games 

We need to win both home games

If after a weekend off with players refreshed and others back from injury, if we see more of the same it's clearly never going to change

We have 3 cup games around those two games so gets scope to tweak things as well and try players and approaches out

Then 2 away games 

Got to be seeing better football and at least 3 wins

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, onefinfrandsen said:

Christmas, with the hope he gets injured players back and we some how get on a decent enough run. Transfer window around the corner, couple of additions , hovering close to top 6. Here’s hoping.

Looking at the last 4 years or so, have we ever got our injured players back mid season?  Some recover, others get injured, they then recover, others get injured or suspended.  That's football, its tiresome that IE makes it more of an issue than it is.  If success is based on Charles and Santos starting 46 games each, we're even further away than I thought.

Edited September 1 by Johnnyrotten

[Tonge moor green jacket]

33 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I voted to part company now

If voting to give him more time though, it'd surely have to be longer than the next 5 because he needs to prove he can beat the club's expected to be in and around the play-off hunt

It's no good giving him the next 5 and then we get beat by Birmingham, Stockport and Rotherham in the next 5

The improvement needed to get past 5 should see us do OK against those teams though.

That would be the point in giving him that bit more time.

If FV were concerned about that potentially happening, then they would have to pull the trigger now.

 

[Greg_BWFC]

29 minutes ago, Zico said:

Went with 5/10 games 

Really I'm looking at the next 4 league games 

We need to win both home games

If after a weekend off with players refreshed and others back from injury, if we see more of the same it's clearly never going to change

We have 3 cup games around those two games so gets scope to tweak things as well and try players and approaches out

Then 2 away games 

Got to be seeing better football and at least 3 wins

Pretty much my feeling too.

If we aren't seeing better performances by then, I doubt it's suddenly going to change. 

[gaztruman]

Be interesting to look back at this at Christmas if Evatt sorts it out. I feel like some fans have just got it in for Evatt now and nothing he does is going to make them back him. 

I'd definitely give him 5-10 more games to turn it around. Seems a bit daft to me to get rid of him after 4 games. I'd imagine everyone who is voting to get rid of him now were the same people saying he should go in the summer. 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

22 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The improvement needed to get past 5 should see us do OK against those teams though.

That would be the point in giving him that bit more time.

If FV were concerned about that potentially happening, then they would have to pull the trigger now.

 

Should it?

I'd not necessarily be confident performances against the likes of Reading Crawley, Northampton and Shrewsbury would give us any indication of how we'd do against Birmingham, Stockport, or Rotherham

[Johnnyrotten]

45 minutes ago, tomski said:

I genuinely don’t think the fans will get on his back. Apathy will reign. You could see it yesterday. 
 

Yes, folk said after Oxford it would be "toxic" the first time Santos put his foot on the ball especially if we're losing.  That never happens, the odd boo of course and the odd bloke standing up giving signs to IE, but this is the politest of crowds.  The vast majority just go quiet and/or turn their backs on it.  There may be an exception for an away defeat where drink is a factor - hopefully for IEs sake he isn't in charge when we go to Stockport because we know what's coming there.

[Dr. Feelgood]

3 minutes ago, gaztruman said:

Be interesting to look back at this at Christmas if Evatt sorts it out. I feel like some fans have just got it in for Evatt now and nothing he does is going to make them back him. 

Y'know that's simply not true.

If his team & tactics had beaten Wrexham & say drawn at Charlton & not lost yesterday I'd be delighted to be saying "well, fair play to him".

Bit they didn't. 

[jeep]

Go now, and take your receipts & Turkey teeth with you......

[Dimron]

Option missing...

Chairman's office 10 am Monday, Bollock to one inch of life and being told to get out there with that bunch of Sugar Plum Fairies and deliver some points.

But it doesn't work like that any more...

[masi 51]

Seriously..........Evatt is now saying he had to put B team players on the bench.............One, the day after the  Transfer window ffs

Please defend that statement............

[Dr. Feelgood]

3 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Option missing...

Chairman's office 10 am Monday, Bollock to one inch of life and being told to get out there with that bunch of Sugar Plum Fairies and deliver some points.

But it doesn't work like that any more...

That was my style in a different industry. I got by.

I quite enjoyed the "you can't say that" remarks. 

[Dr. Feelgood]

3 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

Seriously..........Evatt is now saying he had to put B team players on the bench.............One, the day after the  Transfer window ffs

Please defend that statement............

Weak 'reasons' are just excuses.

That's not quite "they are tired" after 6 games.

He'll be saying "it's not fair" next.

[CSW]

Tuesday is key. 
lose (and I know it’s a tin pot cup) he has to go to give us time over the break to take stock and find a replacement. 
they (barrow) are 7 places in the pyramid behind us, scored 6 conceded 1 in their 4 league games. Also knocked Derby out of the Carabou. 
It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t for him really but all of his own doing. play strong, lose or get a major injury or play weak and get dry bummed! Either scenario isn’t ending well! 
 

for me? 

arrivederci e grazie

[gonzo]

Just all so bloody depressing.

 

[Whitesince63]

I went 5 to 10 because I don’t see Sharon removing him before that. He must know he’s now under serious pressure and excuses won’t do any more. Time to fess up Ian or you’ll deserve to go.

[Ryan]

40 minutes ago, gaztruman said:

Be interesting to look back at this at Christmas if Evatt sorts it out. I feel like some fans have just got it in for Evatt now and nothing he does is going to make them back him. 

I'd definitely give him 5-10 more games to turn it around. Seems a bit daft to me to get rid of him after 4 games. I'd imagine everyone who is voting to get rid of him now were the same people saying he should go in the summer. 

 

I think that is a bit disingenuous. Evatt got plenty of plaudits when we smashed Plymouth at Wembley or hammered Sunderland and Oxford at home (rightly so). He was very popular in general and the majority of the fans were behind him until results started to change. It hasn't been poor for 4 games, it's been poor for months. Our record since New Year's Day would get most managers of clubs of a similar size/stature/spending power to us at this level the sack.

I didn't want him gone after Wembley because we have improved league position every season, & if we do so again we will achieve our aims. After watching our games this season, I believe that trend will end so for me a change makes sense. If he is sacked, it won't just be down to these 4 games, but rather the last 9 months. If he manages to turn this around, I'm certain 99% of people would be over the moon and would admit they were wrong. Hard to picture at the moment though.

[DaveTheRave]

I'd probably be give him another 5/10 games but his behaviour yesterday makes me think he should go now.

Sitting down looking at the floor for 20-30 minutes makes me think he's either given up or is having a breakdown. 

Was very bizarre.

[Dimron]

58 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

That was my style in a different industry. I got by.

I quite enjoyed the "you can't say that" remarks. 

I've received and been given such bollockings.. it's all about what everyone does afterwards... If they deliver you have the nice job of saying thank you.

It seems to me that, in common with most organisations the management structure is far too "flat" these days, did we know (or even care) who the board of directors were in the 70/80/90s? Modern Directors all seem to want to have a public profile for some strange reason. Sharon might need a hatchet man?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Should it?

I'd not necessarily be confident performances against the likes of Reading Crawley, Northampton and Shrewsbury would give us any indication of how we'd do against Birmingham, Stockport, or Rotherham

That isn't what I said.

The point of five games would be to see if it improved.

If it did improve then he has the right to continue, as that is what they would have been looking for.

 Whilst not guaranteeing anything, that would surely indicate a better chance in those more difficult games than we have now. 

If they weren't willing to accept that those improvements were worthy of continuing then they shouldn't be giving him any more games. That would be like having a sword of Damocles permanently over him.

What's more, we're playing at such a low level, that we aren't likely to do a great deal in those immediate games, so a big improvement is required to do so.

 

[Dimron]

31 minutes ago, DaveTheRave said:

I'd probably be give him another 5/10 games but his behaviour yesterday makes me think he should go now.

Sitting down looking at the floor for 20-30 minutes makes me think he's either given up or is having a breakdown. 

Was very bizarre.

One of two things going on

1. Fuck the lot of them... they haven't listened and are now making fools of themselves and I'll get stuck into them first thing Monday

2. I haven't got a clue, we are all sailing headlong onto that frigging big iceberg and we're all going to die