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1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm wondering if Craddock's promotion last year wasn't entirely Evatt's choice

I could see a scenario where the club hierarchy like the idea of creating a culture of promoting from within and he went along with it

The fact we hired yet another coach in the summer without anyone else leaving seemed strange to me at the time

None of us know what has happened behind the scenes so if everyone is intent on wildly speculating in order to crucify Evatt, it's equally valid to wildly speculate that he's been shafted and is now on a mission to sort it out.

 

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Just now, Wanderlust said:

None of us know what has happened behind the scenes so if everyone is intent on wildly speculating in order to crucify Evatt, it's equally valid to wildly speculate that he's been shafted and is now on a mission to sort it out.

 

Perhaps it is

But whatever may or may not have happened behind the scenes wasn't causing him to fail to react to tactical changes as matches are ongoing

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He simply is not good enough........He was found out and he simply cannot change it

Implementing a system that no other football coach has done in world football was alarming

Playing players like Toal and Dempsey in positions that they do not play should set alarm bells going.

Tippy tappy playing from the back needed binning after Oxford

Two Assistant managers that seem not to question Evatt methods

Sitting in the dug-out with hands covering his head..........Do i have to go on

Spending 800k on Schon is as puzzling as turning a million down for Vic

 

No its time for change

 

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5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Perhaps it is

But whatever may or may not have happened behind the scenes wasn't causing him to fail to react to tactical changes as matches are ongoing

Agreed. That said, for whatever reason - perhaps his input into recruitment for example - he has limited options on the bench to change things in certain situations. But he does want to play a specific way and doesn't seem capable of doing anything radical like throwing a big CB up front when our midgets are struggling and there's no out ball.

If he stays it's going to be interesting to see what he can do to change things for the better with the squad at his disposal - and how "creative" he can be to do it.

 

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So basically it's looking like Evatt is probably staying but with changes to his coaching staff and maybe captaincy? Talking about backroom staff, one of my mates played youth football with Peter Atherton, said he was head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch, but he also said he was as thick as fuck.

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8 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said:

Listening to Evatt's interview, listen to how many times he says 'me me me'. All about him. How hard it's been on him, how he has to take the blame as usual.

It is hard and it's tough to be a manager of a big football club. But there hasn't been a single apology to the 20,000+ Bolton fans who have turned up in the recent home games to watch complete drivel and apathy from HIS team. 

He will never find a job as good as he's had it here, near unconditional support from top to bottom.

We've had approximately a combined 71,000 supporters turn up to our last 3 home games and sold out away end at a 5:30 kick off down on London on the opening day. Yet all he has heard is a "cloud of negativity" since Wembley?

Even on Saturday after a horrendous start and after the calamity of last season, there was 22,500 there and all I could hear at the start of the game were Wanderers fans chanting his name.

If a couple of boos and tweets on social media is this 'big horrendous cloud of negativity'. Then obviously him and/or the team have not got the bottle or anywhere near to it to get promoted out of this hard league. 

Weak as piss. 

He needs a serious wake up call. He's lost most of us now, I think even more so his severe lack of awareness, his words against the fans and blamer of others just as much as the game itself has done it for him.

Time to go before it gets even worse. 

He didn't say "me me me" once.

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13 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Agreed. That said, for whatever reason - perhaps his input into recruitment for example - he has limited options on the bench to change things in certain situations. But he does want to play a specific way and doesn't seem capable of doing anything radical like throwing a big CB up front when our midgets are struggling and there's no out ball.

If he stays it's going to be interesting to see what he can do to change things for the better with the squad at his disposal - and how "creative" he can be to do it.

 

We've already had the lunacy of the attempt at a box midfield, which effectively left us with a front three pressing high and two utterly swamped central midfielders acres away

And on Saturday, we switched to a back four, but with a fucking diamond midfield, leaving us with no width whatsoever

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42 minutes ago, tomski said:

My sympathies are turning to frustrations directed at the board now. I’m genuinely shocked.

Blaming the 4th in command is below the belt even for him

It was Joel Coleman's fault we didn't go up last season...

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40 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Well if he's staying it really is last chance saloon.

We may as well all get behind him. 

It is what it is. Making the place a hell hole will just make the situation worse.

Win a a few lose a few would be the hell hole. Enough to stay in a job not enough to take us anywhere.
 

Thats the worst scenario. Waste another season for no reason. 

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Just now, Blondi said:

And if Evatt does stay and we get thumped against Reading?

I think it might be more likely we pick up a few good results - the run of fixtures over the next few matches is, on paper, about as easy as it gets - but then the problem reoccurs when we come up against the bigger hitters and we end up back in the situation we're in now only with more of the season eaten up

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I simply cannot understand the logic behind keeping Evatt but sacking everyone else and changing Captain to a young lad that is already playing above his ability level. 

If we're following that train of thought, the staff (that Evatt hired) are the problem, they've done all the coaching, the tactical implementation, the player identification and signing. So, what is it that Ian actually does do?

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5 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

I simply cannot understand the logic behind keeping Evatt but sacking everyone else and changing Captain to a young lad that is already playing above his ability level. 

If we're following that train of thought, the staff (that Evatt hired) are the problem, they've done all the coaching, the tactical implementation, the player identification and signing. So, what is it that Ian actually does do?

I agree. This is a baffling decision if it’s true.

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12 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think it might be more likely we pick up a few good results - the run of fixtures over the next few matches is, on paper, about as easy as it gets - but then the problem reoccurs when we come up against the bigger hitters and we end up back in the situation we're in now only with more of the season eaten up

One win in 8 home games with some very winnable fixtures.

Two wins in the last 10 away league games (1 of those thanks to the Orient keeper).

I think there's a misconception about how poor we've become.  Folk are still talking like we win games routinely, what's it based on?  Beating a decent team like Reading seems like a pipedream with this squad and manager.  I'd take mid table all day long, IMO we are in a bottom half battle if IE stays.

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who has said we are sacking everybody else, ffs

last night, i heard evatt was gone

today, ive heard craddock has gone

its pretty clear somethings going on and everybody wants to be first with the news

lets see, eh, and not have a meltdown at every whisper

fwiw, i think its time, regradless of whether he could turn it around, cos i hate being in a ground like saturday

 

and if we could get lowe or schumacher. lets do it

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2 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

One win in 8 home games with some very winnable fixtures.

Two wins in the last 10 away league games (1 of those thanks to the Orient keeper).

I think there's a misconception about how poor we've become.  Folk are still talking like we win games routinely, what's it based on?  Beating a decent team like Reading seems like a pipedream with this squad and manager.  I'd take mid table all day long, IMO we are in a bottom half battle if IE stays.

if we brought your mate JDB back, youd have us winning the league by ten points  :)

 

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