Wanderlust Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I'm wondering if Craddock's promotion last year wasn't entirely Evatt's choice I could see a scenario where the club hierarchy like the idea of creating a culture of promoting from within and he went along with it The fact we hired yet another coach in the summer without anyone else leaving seemed strange to me at the time None of us know what has happened behind the scenes so if everyone is intent on wildly speculating in order to crucify Evatt, it's equally valid to wildly speculate that he's been shafted and is now on a mission to sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 16 Members Share Posted September 16 Just now, Wanderlust said: None of us know what has happened behind the scenes so if everyone is intent on wildly speculating in order to crucify Evatt, it's equally valid to wildly speculate that he's been shafted and is now on a mission to sort it out. Perhaps it is But whatever may or may not have happened behind the scenes wasn't causing him to fail to react to tactical changes as matches are ongoing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gonzo Posted September 16 Popular Post Share Posted September 16 Well if he's staying it really is last chance saloon. We may as well all get behind him. It is what it is. Making the place a hell hole will just make the situation worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 He simply is not good enough........He was found out and he simply cannot change it Implementing a system that no other football coach has done in world football was alarming Playing players like Toal and Dempsey in positions that they do not play should set alarm bells going. Tippy tappy playing from the back needed binning after Oxford Two Assistant managers that seem not to question Evatt methods Sitting in the dug-out with hands covering his head..........Do i have to go on Spending 800k on Schon is as puzzling as turning a million down for Vic No its time for change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Perhaps it is But whatever may or may not have happened behind the scenes wasn't causing him to fail to react to tactical changes as matches are ongoing Agreed. That said, for whatever reason - perhaps his input into recruitment for example - he has limited options on the bench to change things in certain situations. But he does want to play a specific way and doesn't seem capable of doing anything radical like throwing a big CB up front when our midgets are struggling and there's no out ball. If he stays it's going to be interesting to see what he can do to change things for the better with the squad at his disposal - and how "creative" he can be to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meanderson93 Posted September 16 Popular Post Share Posted September 16 Horrific decision if he stays. Both on the business and football side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lostock Whites Posted September 16 Popular Post Share Posted September 16 (edited) Listening to Evatt's interview, listen to how many times he says 'me me me'. All about him. How hard it's been on him, how he has to take the blame as usual. It is hard and it's tough to be a manager of a big football club. But there hasn't been a single apology to the 20,000+ Bolton fans who have turned up in the recent home games to watch complete drivel and apathy from HIS team. He will never find a job as good as he's had it here, near unconditional support from top to bottom. We've had approximately a combined 71,000 supporters turn up to our last 3 home games and sold out away end at a 5:30 kick off down on London on the opening day. Yet all he has heard is a "cloud of negativity" since Wembley? Even on Saturday after a horrendous start and after the calamity of last season, there was 22,500 there and all I could hear at the start of the game were Wanderers fans chanting his name. If a couple of boos and tweets on social media is this 'big horrendous cloud of negativity'. Then obviously him and/or the team have not got the bottle or anywhere near to it to get promoted out of this hard league. Weak as piss. He needs a serious wake up call. He's lost most of us now, I think even more so his severe lack of awareness, his words against the fans and blamer of others just as much as the game itself has done it for him. Time to go before it gets even worse. Edited September 16 by Lostock Whites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 So basically it's looking like Evatt is probably staying but with changes to his coaching staff and maybe captaincy? Talking about backroom staff, one of my mates played youth football with Peter Atherton, said he was head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch, but he also said he was as thick as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Imagine if the next official communique from the club is just "Reading 🏡. We go again 💪" next Saturday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted September 16 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16 8 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said: Listening to Evatt's interview, listen to how many times he says 'me me me'. All about him. How hard it's been on him, how he has to take the blame as usual. It is hard and it's tough to be a manager of a big football club. But there hasn't been a single apology to the 20,000+ Bolton fans who have turned up in the recent home games to watch complete drivel and apathy from HIS team. He will never find a job as good as he's had it here, near unconditional support from top to bottom. We've had approximately a combined 71,000 supporters turn up to our last 3 home games and sold out away end at a 5:30 kick off down on London on the opening day. Yet all he has heard is a "cloud of negativity" since Wembley? Even on Saturday after a horrendous start and after the calamity of last season, there was 22,500 there and all I could hear at the start of the game were Wanderers fans chanting his name. If a couple of boos and tweets on social media is this 'big horrendous cloud of negativity'. Then obviously him and/or the team have not got the bottle or anywhere near to it to get promoted out of this hard league. Weak as piss. He needs a serious wake up call. He's lost most of us now, I think even more so his severe lack of awareness, his words against the fans and blamer of others just as much as the game itself has done it for him. Time to go before it gets even worse. He didn't say "me me me" once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 16 Members Share Posted September 16 13 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: Agreed. That said, for whatever reason - perhaps his input into recruitment for example - he has limited options on the bench to change things in certain situations. But he does want to play a specific way and doesn't seem capable of doing anything radical like throwing a big CB up front when our midgets are struggling and there's no out ball. If he stays it's going to be interesting to see what he can do to change things for the better with the squad at his disposal - and how "creative" he can be to do it. We've already had the lunacy of the attempt at a box midfield, which effectively left us with a front three pressing high and two utterly swamped central midfielders acres away And on Saturday, we switched to a back four, but with a fucking diamond midfield, leaving us with no width whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 42 minutes ago, tomski said: My sympathies are turning to frustrations directed at the board now. I’m genuinely shocked. Blaming the 4th in command is below the belt even for him It was Joel Coleman's fault we didn't go up last season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Give him till Xmas and he will have us in a playoff position. IESWA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 40 minutes ago, gonzo said: Well if he's staying it really is last chance saloon. We may as well all get behind him. It is what it is. Making the place a hell hole will just make the situation worse. Win a a few lose a few would be the hell hole. Enough to stay in a job not enough to take us anywhere. Thats the worst scenario. Waste another season for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 And if Evatt does stay and we get thumped against Reading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 16 Members Share Posted September 16 Just now, Blondi said: And if Evatt does stay and we get thumped against Reading? I think it might be more likely we pick up a few good results - the run of fixtures over the next few matches is, on paper, about as easy as it gets - but then the problem reoccurs when we come up against the bigger hitters and we end up back in the situation we're in now only with more of the season eaten up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 I simply cannot understand the logic behind keeping Evatt but sacking everyone else and changing Captain to a young lad that is already playing above his ability level. If we're following that train of thought, the staff (that Evatt hired) are the problem, they've done all the coaching, the tactical implementation, the player identification and signing. So, what is it that Ian actually does do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 5 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: I simply cannot understand the logic behind keeping Evatt but sacking everyone else and changing Captain to a young lad that is already playing above his ability level. If we're following that train of thought, the staff (that Evatt hired) are the problem, they've done all the coaching, the tactical implementation, the player identification and signing. So, what is it that Ian actually does do? I agree. This is a baffling decision if it’s true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farrelli Posted September 16 Popular Post Share Posted September 16 22 minutes ago, Blondi said: And if Evatt does stay and we get thumped against Reading? Sack the groundsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 12 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think it might be more likely we pick up a few good results - the run of fixtures over the next few matches is, on paper, about as easy as it gets - but then the problem reoccurs when we come up against the bigger hitters and we end up back in the situation we're in now only with more of the season eaten up One win in 8 home games with some very winnable fixtures. Two wins in the last 10 away league games (1 of those thanks to the Orient keeper). I think there's a misconception about how poor we've become. Folk are still talking like we win games routinely, what's it based on? Beating a decent team like Reading seems like a pipedream with this squad and manager. I'd take mid table all day long, IMO we are in a bottom half battle if IE stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post W.cramp Posted September 16 Popular Post Share Posted September 16 Coming on here now is like when it had turned into qualifiedscientificaccountants.com. (I,ve heard,someone told me,rumour is) Turn up on Saturday and support whoever is on the touchline and whoever puts the shirt on. I ain't one bit happy with evatt neither am I a happy clapper, I just want my team to win football games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 16 Moderators Share Posted September 16 who has said we are sacking everybody else, ffs last night, i heard evatt was gone today, ive heard craddock has gone its pretty clear somethings going on and everybody wants to be first with the news lets see, eh, and not have a meltdown at every whisper fwiw, i think its time, regradless of whether he could turn it around, cos i hate being in a ground like saturday and if we could get lowe or schumacher. lets do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 16 Moderators Share Posted September 16 spot on crampo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 16 Moderators Share Posted September 16 2 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: One win in 8 home games with some very winnable fixtures. Two wins in the last 10 away league games (1 of those thanks to the Orient keeper). I think there's a misconception about how poor we've become. Folk are still talking like we win games routinely, what's it based on? Beating a decent team like Reading seems like a pipedream with this squad and manager. I'd take mid table all day long, IMO we are in a bottom half battle if IE stays. if we brought your mate JDB back, youd have us winning the league by ten points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 I'd rather have Craddock in charge than Evatt at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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