Ani Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Was saying yesterday we have a couple of 'angry' fans who sit by us and they moan constantly, yesterday even they could not be bothered. Quote
Marc505 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, radcliffe white said: I don’t think the owners can afford to write this season off mate And no season should ever be written off in September either. Teams have come back from oblivion from far later in a season than this. Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 15 Members Posted September 15 The number of quality teams at the top of the league should hopefully mean they all take points off each other and the points total required to reach the play-offs ends up lower than it has been in the last couple of years, which would give us an opportunity to get back into it But we have to act now Quote
Rizlar Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Just watched the goals again ffs Sheehan passing back to Baxter , but the third goal absolutely shit defending got nothing to do with confidence just bloody useless players !! Quote
Hoppy Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, radcliffe white said: I don’t think the owners can afford to write this season off mate I think the owners are happy at the moment at the money they are bringing in 20 000 plus crowds buying food alcohol, shirts etc and only paying league 1 wages you get promoted you do get extra money but wages go up, you can't get many more in the stadium but if things go belly up your business plan has to change Quote
Whitesince63 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 43 minutes ago, Rizlar said: Listened to the Buff (thanks Cheese ) got to agree with everything I have calmed down now Evatt as taken us as far as he can we have no leaders on the pitch we go a goal down we are done and that’s been happening for a long time now and the thing that sums it up for me is young George talking to the press and our Captain yet again no where to be seen! Evatt sounds like he’s finished cannot see him being able to sort this mess out he’s too stuck in his tippy tappy football vision. I actually thought George came across really well in his interview and certainly better than anything our captain might have come out with. He didn’t slag anyone off, backed 5he manager completely and admitted that it was the players entirely who were to blame. Despite that I think it’s clear 5hat Evatt has no answers to this decline. Quote
Duck Egg Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, tomski said: I’m supposed to be at the ‘it’s doesn’t bother me as I get older’ phase but crikey this is a grim Sunday morning. Whether folk like him or don’t, it seems universal it’s all over. I wonder if there is a plan b in place. I suspect there is going off my limited take from the Swiss chaps. Stabilise and start again next season Same. I've not felt this miserable since Oxford. I just hope it ends while there's still some dignity and mutual respect. Quote
Tombwfc Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, tomski said: I’m supposed to be at the ‘it’s doesn’t bother me as I get older’ phase but crikey this is a grim Sunday morning. Whether folk like him or don’t, it seems universal it’s all over. I wonder if there is a plan b in place. I suspect there is going off my limited take from the Swiss chaps. Stabilise and start again next season Way too early after five games. The quality of the players isn't what they've shown so far - it's a playoff squad at worst. Evatt has been here for an age in modern football terms. A new face and some fresh ideas would change things dramatically. Quote
tomski Posted September 15 Posted September 15 7 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: Way too early after five games. The quality of the players isn't what they've shown so far - it's a playoff squad at worst. Evatt has been here for an age in modern football terms. A new face and some fresh ideas would change things dramatically. I hope you are right on the players. My gut feeling is other teams have caught us up and evolved. Quote
VividDreamer Posted September 15 Posted September 15 14 hours ago, Zog1 said: I think the players are good enough and i think the bulk of them could play at a higher level, i think IE gets the worst out of them. Morley and Sadlier couldn't get a look in with us and rightly so they LOOKED terrible, they join Wycombe and boom Wycombe are unbeaten in 3 games. Evatt's primary target last year was Baccus, what's he doing now sitting on the bench at Cambridge because he can't get in the team. Evatt is the issue. Not the players. Mansfield* Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted September 15 Posted September 15 5 hours ago, radcliffe white said: We said this yesterday just using for example a Sam cosgrove type player, we don’t have one striker who can hold the ball up and bat off defenders I mistakenly thought that was the type of player we were getting with McAtee. Now that we know he isn't, he just looks like a pointless signing, no idea what he's supposed to bring that is an upgrade on either the other 3, or JDB. We have gone from a fairly weak forward line with only JDB who could win any sort of header or hold the ball up, to an even weaker one. We've even removed the physicality of CJ for the last 15 minutes should we be holding onto a lead, how have we spent so much money to make ourselves weaker? Quote
Members burnden Posted September 15 Members Posted September 15 Noticed the crowd given as 22500 but also seemed to be a lot of empty ST holder seats yesterday. Where i sit in IL3 there were at least 20 regulars missing ......Folk voting with their feet? Quote
Ani Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Rizlar said: Just watched the goals again ffs Sheehan passing back to Baxter , but the third goal absolutely shit defending got nothing to do with confidence just bloody useless players !! See I think the goal is exactly what happens when players have no confidence. Everyone is waiting a fraction of a second before doing anything, they wait to see what is happening rather than doing something about it. No one takes responsibility and when they do act it is slightly the wrong action. A team playing well and with no fear does everything better and quicker . The problem within a football club is the manager is really the one who drives the mood and IE is in such a dark place himself he will not improve things. How must the players feel listening to that interview ? What does he say next training session ? He has admitted he does not know what to do. I do not excuse the players from any blame but trying to do a job at the level of a professional sportsman needs everything to be running smoothly. They must be as confused as the rest of us with the tactics and formation. Imagine having your boss in a meeting saying the department is under performing, every other team is better than you and he has no idea what do about it and morale is fucked and again no idea what to do about it. Quote
kent_white Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Listening to Evatt yesterday on the radio was horrible. I think the owners should be thinking about his mental health now as much as anything else. His confidence seems shot and some time away from football might do him the world of good. I like the guy as well. Always got the impression that he's worked his arse off for us. But I fear teams have worked us out now. What worried me the most is that he said our system was built around confidence. That smacks of Owen Coyle. It's great while it's going well but when the wheels come off - what do you do then? And he keeps going on about this 'dark cloud' hanging around the club. I think he's projecting here. His job isn't to psychoanalyse the players, staff and supporter base. It's to sign players and play a system that gets results. That's what gets rid of dark clouds. Good man and a good manager who won't have a problem finding another club. I just think he's run out of steam at our place. Quote
W.cramp Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said: I actually thought George came across really well in his interview and certainly better than anything our captain might have come out with. He didn’t slag anyone off, backed 5he manager completely and admitted that it was the players entirely who were to blame. Despite that I think it’s clear 5hat Evatt has no answers to this decline. Agree, I think george speaks very well in interview, no sugarcoating. Close to feeling sorry for him but yesterday he was poor as were most. Am bored of reading the 3 4 2, 5 2 3, 4 1 3 2 3 4 formation shite. Yesterday the majority of players were poor which really does not help a manager who can't seem to work out a best starting set up never mind the right players to play in the positions. It's time to start anew and a fresh face with new ideas and outlook. Quote
Farnywhite Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Tombwfc said: Way too early after five games. The quality of the players isn't what they've shown so far - it's a playoff squad at worst. Evatt has been here for an age in modern football terms. A new face and some fresh ideas would change things dramatically. We have won something like 10 league games in 2024 he as spent a few million on 9 players and we look worse . I don’t think the players are actually that good so it’s all on evatt he as wasted money and is record is poor on that alone he should be sacked Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 44 minutes ago, W.cramp said: Agree, I think george speaks very well in interview, no sugarcoating. Close to feeling sorry for him but yesterday he was poor as were most. No doubt there was a limited amount of patience amongst the crowd yesterday, even when it was 0-0 and we were doing reasonably well. George looked affected by it as much as any unfortunately, rushing and over hitting everything. He was far from alone though. Edited September 15 by ianofcleveleys Quote
tomski Posted September 15 Posted September 15 4 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: No doubt there was a limited amount of patience amongst the crowd yesterday, even when it was 0-0 and we were doing reasonably well. George looked affected by it as much as any unfortunately, rushing and over hitting everything. He was far from alone though. I think our crowd are incredibly patient/apathetic. Im amazed that the negativity gets trotted out. I thought He spoke very well and like a leader but I’ve had more hostile receptions walking through my front door than anything at 0-0 Quote
radcliffe white Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Surely our captain should be facing the media not GT (who gave a good interview btw) Quote
Stig Posted September 15 Posted September 15 4 hours ago, CambridgeBWFC said: The 4th is a goal that will haunt us as it is so unbelievably piss poor, but the 3rd shows that the whole team is incapable of defending as a unit, and highlights, as if it was really needed, why not marking players on the edge of the box and pushing out will always cause issues. I watched them back and the 3rd is the worst imo - just a team without any backbone willing to put a tackle in or clear a ball. The 4th is horrendous as well though - fair and squarely on Evatt forcing them to play in such a high risk/low reward manner. The 1st goal is a combination of the system being wrong so there's noone in front of Cogley to pick up his clearance header, and then Santos switching off to let his man have a free header from 6 yards. The 2nd was very unlucky - not a penalty for me. So not quite as bad as first thought... Quote
Matt Lofthouse Posted September 15 Posted September 15 4 hours ago, Plums said: It’s a failed experiment for me, you can’t play that style of football in our league with the players at our disposal, it just doesn’t work. Sadly agree with this. Nailed it. Quote
gonzo Posted September 15 Author Posted September 15 29 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Surely our captain should be facing the media not GT (who gave a good interview btw) Can't stop thinking about that interview. The poor lad looked broken. Quote
Whitesince63 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 11 minutes ago, gonzo said: Can't stop thinking about that interview. The poor lad looked broken. Not at all Gonzo, he looked and sounded disappointed with himself and his team mates but seemed full of resolve to get back out and make up for it. If everyone had the backbone of this lad we wouldn’t be where we are. Make him captain for me and let him kick arse. Quote
Marc505 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 I like GT but he's not captain material, not yet anyway. Would need a decent vice in place to cover the games he'd be suspended for at any rate. I didn't get chance to hear it before they deleted it but his interview on Bolton FM sounded like it was more controversial, bringing fans into it etc. But I still wouldn't hold that against him it's a harsh environment to throw a player into a post match interview after a game like that Quote
Mutley Posted September 15 Posted September 15 I would not like there to be a knee jerk reaction on the back of a poor outing. yes we lost the game but I think there was a few positives to reflect back upon a day later. I do not believe the players are playing for evitt but I think he can turn it around. Chris Herd as a number 2 someone with a bit of experience as evitt looks lost and a worried figure. back to basics 541 and a big lad up front. don’t change the management. mutley 14 Quote
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