Whitesince63 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Spider said: Everything has just hit rock bottom. I don’t know the guy personally, none of us do. I imagine it’s the last thing he wanted, to be in this position, but the fact is we are and the atmosphere around the place is dung. The season has barely got going so a change now could easily see us where we want to be, there’s 40 games left. Thanks for steadying the ship Ian, but we need someone with more than just a copy of Guardiola’s autobiography in his locker. All be forgotten by Xmas when we’re top. Absolutely right spider, we’re even now only 6 points off the play offs and as you say there are 40 games left and 120 points still to play for no way is the season over yet. However much I want to believe he can I just can’t see IE changing his ways and beliefs because if he did he’d be admitting he was wrong and I just can’t see him doing that. He has to go now for us to have any chance so a mutual consent decision seems the only sensible one to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 The positive is that we still have 40 games left to play, more than enough to make up ground and get ourselves challenging again. Our players are more than capable of reaching the playoffs even with the bad start. They need confidence and inspiration. Evatt is a broken man right now so they won’t be getting that from him. The tactics is one side of it but the man-management and motivation is another. I don’t think if I was in that dressing room I’d have much faith left at all in “the process”. I don’t for one second buy Evatt’s excuse of the game being a physical mismatch. If that’s the case we might as well have just forfeited the game before it started because they’re “bigger than us.” There is always a solution tactically to play to your strengths and target the oppositions weaknesses, he sadly did not find any despite priding himself on his tactical style. My gut says the decision has already been made and the board are waiting for Monday morning to announce it. My only counter is that I think SB will feel disappointed and embarrassed by how the decision to stick by him after Wembley has gone. Does she do what she did at the start of League 2 and double down on him? The difference now is that fans are in the stadium again and being vocal in their discontent, that may be a deciding factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakey Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, only1swanny said: I might get proven wrong here, but reckon Evatt will stick it out, he's said he doesn't want this as his legacy. I'm hoping he does, I'm hoping he looks at the team and rejig, we have some cracking players but this current game plan doesn't work. . Once we're stable then bring back the pretty football that created 100+ goals last year. We've got a team that will walk into any other team, as shown by fringe players leaving and doing just that. Come Saturday ill be behind the lads, worth having one thread without any negativity? Some might struggle with this.. In a moment of frantic fury I completely mixed things up and set fire to my pitchforks. Suppose that's a positive of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 My issue is he as 3 other coaches working with first team and not them or Evatt can see how poor we are or are they not allowed to voice an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 hours ago, only1swanny said: I might get proven wrong here, but reckon Evatt will stick it out, he's said he doesn't want this as his legacy. I'm hoping he does, I'm hoping he looks at the team and rejig, we have some cracking players but this current game plan doesn't work. . Once we're stable then bring back the pretty football that created 100+ goals last year. We've got a team that will walk into any other team, as shown by fringe players leaving and doing just that. Come Saturday ill be behind the lads, worth having one thread without any negativity? Some might struggle with this.. you won't be proven wrong as the circumstances around your thoughts will not happen Do you honestly think from that interview last night he is going into training next week and coming out with some Churchillian speech to get everybody up and firing and even after having done that he is going to have suddenly come up with a plan to turn things round ? He said yesterday that he does not any idea what to do. We have got rid of plenty of players because they were not good enough to take us to next level , he is the same - move him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Yes I know it's been grim for a bit. But I'm a glass half full man. I would like to think things will get better under Evatt. A learning curve that he needed. I've never seen a manager so demoralised after a defeat. I doubt Evatt will get much sleep between now and the Reading match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 5 hours ago, only1swanny said: I might get proven wrong here, but reckon Evatt will stick it out, he's said he doesn't want this as his legacy. I'm hoping he does, I'm hoping he looks at the team and rejig, we have some cracking players but this current game plan doesn't work. . Once we're stable then bring back the pretty football that created 100+ goals last year. We've got a team that will walk into any other team, as shown by fringe players leaving and doing just that. Come Saturday ill be behind the lads, worth having one thread without any negativity? Some might struggle with this.. What are you drinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted September 15 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 15 2 minutes ago, Kane57 said: What are you drinking said some would struggle with this, proved my point thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, Ani said: you won't be proven wrong as the circumstances around your thoughts will not happen Do you honestly think from that interview last night he is going into training next week and coming out with some Churchillian speech to get everybody up and firing and even after having done that he is going to have suddenly come up with a plan to turn things round ? He said yesterday that he does not any idea what to do. We have got rid of plenty of players because they were not good enough to take us to next level , he is the same - move him on. Exactly. He’s done. We’ve all been around the block a bit with managers and we know when it ain’t working anymore. It ain’t working anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, only1swanny said: said some would struggle with this, proved my point thank you. Nobody is struggling with it. It’s a ridiculous premise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 minutes ago, Underpants said: Yes I know it's been grim for a bit. But I'm a glass half full man. I would like to think things will get better under Evatt. A learning curve that he needed. I've never seen a manager so demoralised after a defeat. I doubt Evatt will get much sleep between now and the Reading match. This is Evatt’s 8th season as a manager. How big is this learning curve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 It's not going to be Evatt having a 'road to Damascus' moment. His style is nailed to the mast. If he went another route now he wouldn't believe in it. Despite him claiming to be a 4-4-2 fan and loving wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted September 15 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 15 Don't know the in's and out's but seem to recall him being a shareholder. He's under contract, shareholder and built a squad of his players, can the board afford to, can they afford not to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, Dr. Feelgood said: It's not going to be Evatt having a 'road to Damascus' moment. His style is nailed to the mast. If he went another route now he wouldn't believe in it. Despite him claiming to be a 4-4-2 fan and loving wingers. He’s already said he can’t go long as we don’t have the players. So he’s basically gone into a season with one way of playing. That’s fucking criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Popular Post desperado Posted September 15 Site Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 15 (edited) A new manager with a talented squad has lots of time to give us an exciting season The club is stable We have good ownership We’ve healthy crowds home and away We’re BWFC, ups and downs are part of our DNA, live through the downs to embrace the fantastic highs. This can be a blip in the longer term context of our renaissance post 2020 We should look back at Evatt’s time in charge with respect, admiration and pride, there’s been some very good times. We’ve got a good foundation to build and progress Edited September 15 by desperado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 15 Members Share Posted September 15 17 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Don't know the in's and out's but seem to recall him being a shareholder. He's under contract, shareholder and built a squad of his players, can the board afford to, can they afford not to? He's got a small number of B shares iirc I don't think that'll be an obstacle But him having a contract until 2026 might Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: It certainly does but it won’t be Evatt. A lot of people assuming that line last night about 'seeking conversations with the Board' was to agree the terms of him leaving. I'm not so sure, it could just as easily be a conversation to ask Sharon etc to publicly back him and give those horrible, dimwit, gobshite fans a bollocking. Message from the chairman telling us all to pull together and support Evatt and the lads through a tricky time, blah blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 47 minutes ago, Rival Son said: This is Evatt’s 8th season as a manager. How big is this learning curve? You never stop learning. You've just learned something there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, Underpants said: You never stop learning. You've just learned something there. No, I haven’t. I already know that, in professional life, we will encounter new experiences, skills and techniques. That is continuous professional development. However, a learning curve is a situation is which someone new into a role or task has to learn a lot in a short period of time. Evatt should be well past this stage, as a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.cramp Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 I know we are clutching but one small positive is the upcoming run of fixtures which we would normally be expected to win ! Reading, crawley,shrewsbury,burton,stevenage, maybe not in that order but Shirley you have to expect 4 wins out of 5 and maybe even all 5 ! This could be the saving grace for Mr evatt. Caveat- I did say normally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 37 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: A lot of people assuming that line last night about 'seeking conversations with the Board' was to agree the terms of him leaving. I'm not so sure, it could just as easily be a conversation to ask Sharon etc to publicly back him and give those horrible, dimwit, gobshite fans a bollocking. Message from the chairman telling us all to pull together and support Evatt and the lads through a tricky time, blah blah Aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 15 Moderators Share Posted September 15 11 minutes ago, W.cramp said: I know we are clutching but one small positive is the upcoming run of fixtures which we would normally be expected to win ! Reading, crawley,shrewsbury,burton,stevenage, maybe not in that order but Shirley you have to expect 4 wins out of 5 and maybe even all 5 ! This could be the saving grace for Mr evatt. Caveat- I did say normally I expected us to have plenty goals in us this season but here we are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted September 15 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 15 47 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: A lot of people assuming that line last night about 'seeking conversations with the Board' was to agree the terms of him leaving. I'm not so sure, it could just as easily be a conversation to ask Sharon etc to publicly back him and give those horrible, dimwit, gobshite fans a bollocking. Message from the chairman telling us all to pull together and support Evatt and the lads through a tricky time, blah blah I do actually think this is what will happen. In his words.. Most sucessful manager of recent times, don't want to be tainted with this, Can see coaches being sacked off, players being frozen out, and hopefully a new captain allowing our current one to focus on his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He's got a small number of B shares iirc I don't think that'll be an obstacle But him having a contract until 2026 might 2 year payout. Part of me thinks the club might wait it out for a couple of weeks for him to quit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 16 minutes ago, only1swanny said: I do actually think this is what will happen. In his words.. Most sucessful manager of recent times, don't want to be tainted with this, Can see coaches being sacked off, players being frozen out, and hopefully a new captain allowing our current one to focus on his game. I really hope it doesn't When and not if we start poorly on Saturday more fans will turn against him.He needs to go and go now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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