Site Supporter desperado Posted October 2 Site Supporter Posted October 2 9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: With my admittedly dodgy eyesight, I thought he assisted for Charles goal It was Schon. Great ball. Nearly as good as his one for the first. He played really well last night as he did at Crawley. I wondered whether I got it all wrong after Orient as I thought he looked really good, an excellent and exciting signing. Then clearly like the rest in that bad spell, he didn’t shine, and I started reading on here that he was awful, no better than Declan John, don’t know what Evatt sees in him, he can’t play as a WB etc and went quiet on him for a bit. But I feel a lot more confident saying what I did after Orient, I really like him. He’s fast, skilful, retains the ball well, shows bags of energy and passion and could become a favourite of mine. Quote
wakey Posted October 2 Posted October 2 21 minutes ago, desperado said: It was Schon. Great ball. Nearly as good as his one for the first. He played really well last night as he did at Crawley. I wondered whether I got it all wrong after Orient as I thought he looked really good, an excellent and exciting signing. Then clearly like the rest in that bad spell, he didn’t shine, and I started reading on here that he was awful, no better than Declan John, don’t know what Evatt sees in him, he can’t play as a WB etc and went quiet on him for a bit. But I feel a lot more confident saying what I did after Orient, I really like him. He’s fast, skilful, retains the ball well, shows bags of energy and passion and could become a favourite of mine. he's a battler as well Quote
Site Supporter desperado Posted October 2 Site Supporter Posted October 2 2 minutes ago, wakey said: he's a battler as well Looks a bit quirky and crazy (in a funny/competitive way 🤣) I like him. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted October 2 Moderators Posted October 2 35 minutes ago, desperado said: It was Schon. It was Arfield Schon wasnt on the pitch, ffs Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 2 Site Supporter Posted October 2 14 minutes ago, Casino said: It was Arfield Schon wasnt on the pitch, ffs Just shows how good he was then!😁 Quote
Moderators Zico Posted October 2 Moderators Posted October 2 11 hours ago, gonzo said: He was a major doubt for me in the summer. Thought we needed to move on. How wrong I was. He's been brilliant. Aye same here, not a starter last season and especially used as a forward in the 3-4-3 Quote
Site Supporter desperado Posted October 2 Site Supporter Posted October 2 29 minutes ago, Casino said: It was Arfield Schon wasnt on the pitch, ffs My eyes are worse than @Johnnyrotten then! 🤣. Yes of course he wasn’t even on pitch was he! 🙈 Still sticking by what I said about Schon though! 😊 Quote
Moderators Zico Posted October 2 Moderators Posted October 2 Good to see direct passes upfield being used from the back these last few games, and giving Charles balls to run on to, as he's at his best doing that Quote
Members DazBob Posted October 2 Members Posted October 2 (edited) Toal's goal, on first viewing looked like shite defending from the Cobblers ... but having watched it back it looks like a very well executed plan. McAtee is at the far post, he then runs to the near post taking the defender with him to leave a gap. Toal is in the middle with Santos, and then runs around the back of the pack into the space McAtee has left. Beautifully done. So, that's two training ground routines that have worked to a tee in the last two games. Edited October 2 by DazBob Quote
Ani Posted October 2 Posted October 2 2 hours ago, Stig said: Yep I'd rather he stays sulking as he's been far better. Still has mistakes in him though, which is what we were saying against Huddersfield where he was good all the first half and then switched off for their goal. TBF the first goal last night was a great cross and the main mistake is not cutting out the cross, but between Santos and Toal they can't let a striker get in-between them like that. Second goal I guess is his job as the man in the middle tasked with heading away corners. On the second goal it is Santos job to head the ball away, but equally it is someone else's job to block their runner. The guy has a free run and gets above Santos so as with most goals there are a couple of little errors. Some people (not aimed at you btw) just blame Santos for everything and other players do not get mentioned. But even if he was to blame for both goals it shows how essential he is to us if he is the one that needs to clear every cross and long ball. Quote
Members DazBob Posted October 2 Members Posted October 2 Did Santos applaud the fans last night? Quote
Site Supporter desperado Posted October 2 Site Supporter Posted October 2 (edited) 1 minute ago, DazBob said: Did Santos applaud the fans last night? Yes from the half way line, so Uncle Craig’s mob are debating whether this counts or not Edited October 2 by desperado Quote
Ani Posted October 2 Posted October 2 1 minute ago, DazBob said: Toal's goal, on first viewing looked like shite defending from the Cobblers ... but having watched it back it looks like a very well executed plan. McAtee is at the far post, he then runs to the near post taking the defender with him to leave a gap. Toal is in the middle with Santos, and then runs around the back of the pack into the space McAtee has left. Beautifully done. So, that's two training ground routines that have worked to a tee in the last two games. On the corner just before Toal gets free but the ball does not to him, Dempsey has a header Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 2 Site Supporter Posted October 2 That first goal exemplifies how football can be quite a simple game. Good movement out wide, and an quick ball. Good control, quick look and a pinpoint cross on a plate for a striker running forward. Get the centre halves defending whilst running towards their own goal. Yes, sometimes a team needs to be patient and pass and probe. Other times they don't. Quote
Members DazBob Posted October 2 Members Posted October 2 Just now, Ani said: On the second goal it is Santos job to head the ball away, but equally it is someone else's job to block their runner. The guy has a free run and gets above Santos so as with most goals there are a couple of little errors. Some people (not aimed at you btw) just blame Santos for everything and other players do not get mentioned. But even if he was to blame for both goals it shows how essential he is to us if he is the one that needs to clear every cross and long ball. I'd need to see it again, but it looked like it was Vic who'd lost his man. There is no way Santos is winning that header against a man who is running towards the ball and has the momentum. Also, for the first goal, sometimes you just have to give credit to the quality of the cross and to Chris Eaves for a cracking header. There should've been more pressure to stop the cross coming in. Santos was brilliant last night. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 2 Site Supporter Posted October 2 The cross to Eaves comes about as a result of Evatt's "aggressive" pressing. No problems with it, but Dempsey runs like a train to get a challenge in, but doesn't quite get there, and ball goes to a man in space. Maybe he should have stayed in the defensive position, particularly late on with the game won, but it's a case of fine margins. Win the ball there, and we could have broke for a fifth! Quote
bolton va va Posted October 2 Posted October 2 12 minutes ago, DazBob said: Toal's goal, on first viewing looked like shite defending from the Cobblers ... but having watched it back it looks like a very well executed plan. McAtee is at the far post, he then runs to the near post taking the defender with him to leave a gap. Toal is in the middle with Santos, and then runs around the back of the pack into the space McAtee has left. Beautifully done. So, that's two training ground routines that have worked to a tee in the last two games. 3 league games running !! Last home game Dempsey scored one off a similar routine where our biggest players ran to the near post taking the biggest defenders with them, leaving Dempsey, our best pound for pound header of the ball, free at the back & Sheehan picked him out. Quote
L/H White Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Dempsey our best player this season, really pleased for him, always thought we're a better team with him in Have to assume he's made that place his own now Quote
RUREADY2ROLL Posted October 2 Posted October 2 15 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: The cross to Eaves comes about as a result of Evatt's "aggressive" pressing. No problems with it, but Dempsey runs like a train to get a challenge in, but doesn't quite get there, and ball goes to a man in space. Maybe he should have stayed in the defensive position, particularly late on with the game won, but it's a case of fine margins. Win the ball there, and we could have broke for a fifth! Don’t think Dempsey was on the pitch at the time; sure it was Arfield you are talking about Quote
boltonboris Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Some great stuff last night. Obviously, as Evatt said in his post match interview, the 2 late goals took the gloss off it, but for 90 mins before that, it was the best performance of the season. When Evatt talks about high risk, it's not just passing it round the back and inviting a press, it's having your Central Midfielders 50 yards apart when you're 1-0 up. Most managers would tear their hair out. That second goal was absolutely fantastic. Great run by Thomo to break the lines and the timing of it was perfect. Equally great by Sheehan, who danced, pirouetted, jinked and jived waiting for an opening and delivered a beaut of a pass with just enough back spin to keep it in the corridor without skipping through. Another goal scored from a set-piece and another one for McAtee, which for me, was the pick of the bunch. Blink of an eye, 2 mouth watering passes and the balls in the net. Great stuff. Dion's goal was a good one too. Great strength and composure. He's looking sharp and hungry and up for the challenge of a good bunch of players looking to take his spot. Quote
boltonboris Posted October 2 Posted October 2 26 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Don’t think Dempsey was on the pitch at the time; sure it was Arfield you are talking about Yeah I think it was Arfield too. This is where game management comes in. Someone not as cold as Arfield probably (you'd hope) does the half press to force the pass where he wants it to and can get back into shape. Arfield, who is supposed to be a wily old fox, is just too keen to take advantage of his fresh legs and over-pressed, in the hope of "getting about them" Quote
boltonboris Posted October 2 Posted October 2 33 minutes ago, L/H White said: Dempsey our best player this season, really pleased for him, always thought we're a better team with him in Have to assume he's made that place his own now Agree it's going to take some doing to disrupt that 3 now. They're all doing the business Quote
boltonboris Posted October 2 Posted October 2 2 hours ago, desperado said: It was Schon. Great ball. Nearly as good as his one for the first. He played really well last night as he did at Crawley. I wondered whether I got it all wrong after Orient as I thought he looked really good, an excellent and exciting signing. Then clearly like the rest in that bad spell, he didn’t shine, and I started reading on here that he was awful, no better than Declan John, don’t know what Evatt sees in him, he can’t play as a WB etc and went quiet on him for a bit. But I feel a lot more confident saying what I did after Orient, I really like him. He’s fast, skilful, retains the ball well, shows bags of energy and passion and could become a favourite of mine. He's playing with a really good intensity and looks confident. Long may that continue Quote
Greg_BWFC Posted October 2 Posted October 2 52 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That first goal exemplifies how football can be quite a simple game. Good movement out wide, and an quick ball. Good control, quick look and a pinpoint cross on a plate for a striker running forward. Get the centre halves defending whilst running towards their own goal. Yes, sometimes a team needs to be patient and pass and probe. Other times they don't. First goal was glorious football. A great goal at any level. Love to see that sort of play. Quote
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