Transfers to move the needle?

[Stig]

7 minutes ago, bwfc4ife said:

We need some steel in the middle, preferably two full backs, some pace out wide and big lad up top.

Focus will be on the first and last of those I reckon. If we didn't change formation last night we won't do it the rest of the season.

In a 532 a strong midfielder and striker who can hold the ball up would make a difference though.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, thebells said:

But but but, Evatts an arrogant cunt. He’s stubborn. He hates the fans. 

He was really nasty to Dapo. 

Now he’ll sell Morley because he doesn’t want to admit he was wrong  

He’s just a really bad man. 

Looking at the situation with Morley, I think Evatt tried to make him something he isn't. Understandably so initially, but it probably spoiled him to a degree.

Bizarre contract extension if Evatt wasn't going to play him, but the lad wanted out, so it does seem likely he'll go.

[worthy10]

18 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Incrediably he hardly touched the ball last night. Not fot the 1st time. When he does he struggles to control it.

His staple move is to receive the ball about 40yds out with his back to goal. He then miss controls the ball and loses it. Or, he thrutches to control it then prods it either backwards or sideways. Generally,  that's what he does.....

[thebells]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Looking at the situation with Morley, I think Evatt tried to make him something he isn't. Understandably so initially, but it probably spoiled him to a degree.

Bizarre contract extension if Evatt wasn't going to play him, but the lad wanted out, so it does seem likely he'll go.

I think Morley’s contract extension was around the same time Dempsey and Thomason had extensions / improved offers and there was an element of keeping him happy. 
 

I think Morley is a good technical player. Solid at League One level. Agree he probably doesn’t quite fit what Evatt wants but he definitely played a role in establishing us at this level. 
 

Only Wycombe can buy him this window, which will allow them to force price down. But I reckon he’ll go for around £250k (which will be described as ‘undisclosed’ no doubt) 

[TrickyTrotter]

11 minutes ago, thebells said:

 

Only Wycombe can buy him this window, which will allow them to force price down. But I reckon he’ll go for around £250k (which will be described as ‘undisclosed’ no doubt) 

I understand his options are limited in January but not sure that's the way it works.

We may have agreed a price with them at the start of his loan.  We could force his price up by threatening to recall him.  

They didn't look promotion material on last nights showing without him.

Ultimately his value is what the 2 clubs agree.  FWIW I reckon your £250k isn't that wide of the mark but we may want a sell on clause (he's only 24 and could improve).

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

8 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

I understand his options are limited in January but not sure that's the way it works.

We may have agreed a price with them at the start of his loan.  We could force his price up by threatening to recall him.  

They didn't look promotion material on last nights showing without him.

Ultimately his value is what the 2 clubs agree.  FWIW I reckon your £250k isn't that wide of the mark but we may want a sell on clause (he's only 24 and could improve).

We could only threaten to recall him if we'd negotiated a recall clause at the outset

[Stig]

4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

We could only threaten to recall him if we'd negotiated a recall clause at the outset

All the commentary around it from Iles suggests we do have a recall in Jan option

[Whitesince63]

19 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

I understand his options are limited in January but not sure that's the way it works.

We may have agreed a price with them at the start of his loan.  We could force his price up by threatening to recall him.  

They didn't look promotion material on last nights showing without him.

Ultimately his value is what the 2 clubs agree.  FWIW I reckon your £250k isn't that wide of the mark but we may want a sell on clause (he's only 24 and could improve).

£250k plus a promotion clause along with a sell on. He’s still young and could yet still improve with regular games especially at a higher level.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

22 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

We could only threaten to recall him if we'd negotiated a recall clause at the outset

Evatt's interview on the matter a while back suggested all options were open.

Even a hint of not helping a team above us.

Was in the BN a bit back.

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Evatt's interview on the matter a while back suggested all options were open.

Even a hint of not helping a team above us.

Was in the BN a bit back.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24708935.bolton-wanderers-recall-aaron-morley-wycombe-loan/

[Ani]

Morley wanted to go on loan to play and recover his form. He was shit last season. He seems to have rediscovered his form so bring him back.

Pay up Arfields contract. 
 

But don’t we only have one spare slot in the squad ? So if we sign 2 or 3 does it mean a couple will need to go ? 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Either go or be deregistered

[Zico]

I have this faint hope we bring Magohma back

Got 25 minutes for Brentford today though

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

I have this faint hope we bring Magohma back

Got 25 minutes for Brentford today though

I'll give you a bang average wank if that happens.

[Stig]

9 minutes ago, Ani said:

Morley wanted to go on loan to play and recover his form. He was shit last season. He seems to have rediscovered his form so bring him back.

Pay up Arfields contract. 
 

But don’t we only have one spare slot in the squad ? So if we sign 2 or 3 does it mean a couple will need to go ? 

I don't see any point in keeping Arfield on - he's completely shot. Get Morley back in AND add a midfielder with Arfield's space, or sell him and get 2 in.

A big target man would then need a sale to open up a squad space but moving Vic on if possible should be a no brainer.

[gonzo]

We ain't signing another forward unless one goes.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

I think the Arfield suggestion makes sense.

He's not going to be a regular, and barely a bit part player. 

Wouldn't have thought he's on a huge wedge neither. 

[Ani]

38 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think the Arfield suggestion makes sense.

He's not going to be a regular, and barely a bit part player. 

Wouldn't have thought he's on a huge wedge neither. 

We have 1 midfield player available v Barnsley. Still be surprised if he plays. 

[desperado]

11 minutes ago, Ani said:

We have 1 midfield player available v Barnsley. Still be surprised if he plays. 

Oh shit is Matete suspended? Was that the last game before the cut-off? Gees that’s bad if so

[Stig]

30 minutes ago, Ani said:

We have 1 midfield player available v Barnsley. Still be surprised if he plays. 

We do have Sharples who's supposedly part of the first team squad now

[Big E]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

I'll give you a bang average wank if that happens.

Strong or weak hand 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

We have 1 midfield player available v Barnsley. Still be surprised if he plays. 

He's added the youngster to the first team squad now, so I see Arfield as unlikely to be required.

In the extreme circumstances we may be faced with Sharples-Ahmed surely would be given some part to play, having had that promotion. Otherwise it seems rather pointless. 

[Rival Son]

We won’t sell Morley to Wycombe in January. We’ll just leave him on loan.

Unlike Santos, it won’t affect his value at season end, because he will remain under contract to us. If Wycombe go up, we’ll command a higher fee. Either because they’re now a Championship club or because others offer competing bids. Lastly, he won’t be able to play in the return match against us, which could be crucial if we’re still battling with them.

Edited December 21, 2024 by Rival Son

[Stig]

9 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

We won’t sell Morley to Wycombe in January. We’ll just leave him on loan.

Unlike Santos, it won’t affect his value at season end, because he will remain under contract to us. If Wycombe go up, we’ll command a higher fee. Either because they’re now a Championship club or because others offer competing bids. Lastly, he won’t be able to play in the return match against us, which could be crucial if we’re still battling with them.

It would be madness leaving him on loan to a rival. It has to be a sell or recall for me. The optics are just not good if he's there on loan and they finish above us 

[Rival Son]

Recall is an option … if we change the manager. It would take a catastrophic Christmas and New Year for that to happen, though.