Dr. Feelgood Posted March 30 Posted March 30 27 minutes ago, Wullie said: Whether we go up or stay down, there will be a massive clear out of players, and that won't be a bad thing Individually, player for player, we have some talent. Freed now from the shackles of Evatt-ball & they should be flying. I fear too many are now unable to play any other way. We've all known for ages that we need steel in midfield and at Centre-Forward (whatever that's called now). Turfing Evatt too late for Schu to do anything, letting Evatt buy Randall at that stage was crackers. Randall may show himself to be a top player but was NOT what was needed. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted March 30 Posted March 30 6 hours ago, tomski said: See that pic makes him look on to me😂 I agree. GJ is stood in the dark green section, which is nearer to goal than the light green section (which is where thier striker is). Quote
Dimron Posted March 30 Posted March 30 42 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Individually, player for player, we have some talent. Freed now from the shackles of Evatt-ball & they should be flying. I fear too many are now unable to play any other way. We've all known for ages that we need steel in midfield and at Centre-Forward (whatever that's called now). Turfing Evatt too late for Schu to do anything, letting Evatt buy Randall at that stage was crackers. Randall may show himself to be a top player but was NOT what was needed. Randall appears to lack the stamina for the full 90 minutes... needs to work on the weights over the summer Quote
Casino Posted March 30 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Dimron said: Randall appears to lack the stamina for the full 90 minutes... needs to work on the weights over the summer How the fuck have you come to that conclusion? Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted March 30 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Dimron said: Randall appears to lack the stamina for the full 90 minutes... needs to work on the weights over the summer Yer, maybe he can bulk up and be our midfield destroyer. Quote
nantwichwhite Posted March 30 Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Individually, player for player, we have some talent. Freed now from the shackles of Evatt-ball & they should be flying. I fear too many are now unable to play any other way. We've all known for ages that we need steel in midfield and at Centre-Forward (whatever that's called now). Turfing Evatt too late for Schu to do anything, letting Evatt buy Randall at that stage was crackers. Randall may show himself to be a top player but was NOT what was needed. Lots to agree with here, steel and craft in the midfield for example Blackpool's number 7, someone who can break the flow when under the cosh, also Blackpool's forward line was better than ours. I suppose between us all we have been watching football a long time, but it I still struggle to understand how we can dominate a game and still lose, it happens so often to us. Quote
Dimron Posted March 30 Posted March 30 30 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said: Yer, maybe he can bulk up and be our midfield destroyer. From what I have seen he has really good ball skills and excellent spatial awareness but not enough up top strength (in my opinion)... if we could help him build up some old fashioned solidity then he would be one hell of a player. I asked a Peterborough ST holder I know about the transfer when out dog walking and we agreed that he wasn't the finished article but a good deal for the Posh. (I walk with lots of football people by the way) Quote
Dimron Posted March 30 Posted March 30 51 minutes ago, Casino said: How the fuck have you come to that conclusion? See below Quote
Cheese Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) "I'm talking utter shite." Edited March 30 by Cheese Quote
Dimron Posted March 30 Posted March 30 2 minutes ago, Cheese said: "I'm talking utter shite." Chill out pal It's just internet bollocks Quote
paulhanley Posted March 30 Posted March 30 35 minutes ago, nantwichwhite said: Lots to agree with here, steel and craft in the midfield for example Blackpool's number 7, someone who can break the flow when under the cosh, also Blackpool's forward line was better than ours. I suppose between us all we have been watching football a long time, but it I still struggle to understand how we can dominate a game and still lose, it happens so often to us. We lack physique, we lack pace, we lack leadership on the pitch and we can't concentrate defensively. We also lack two other things that SS has been increasingly referencing. We are not clinical and we are not streetwise. Pretty fundamental stuff and an indictment of what Evatt spent four years building at great expense and backed by crowd averages of 20000 in the third tier. Quote
gonzo Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Randall is bloody awful. He's shown absolutely fuck all to suggest he isn't. He's weak as piss, backs out of challenges and hasn't done a single good thing since he's been here to warrant anything near his million pound transfer fee. He's soft as shit and nowhere near amends by being a great footballer. A complete waste of money and everything we don't need. Quote
Dimron Posted March 30 Posted March 30 17 minutes ago, gonzo said: Randall is bloody awful. He's shown absolutely fuck all to suggest he isn't. He's weak as piss, backs out of challenges and hasn't done a single good thing since he's been here to warrant anything near his million pound transfer fee. He's soft as shit and nowhere near amends by being a great footballer. A complete waste of money and everything we don't need. I wouldn't write him off yet but definitely not wort a mill... when I first saw him my comment was he looked like a schoolboy, he runs out of steam too quickly and fades from the game hence me suggesting he gets to work on the weights, physical strength helps towards mental strength out on the park.. tennis pros take up boxing to beef up their mentality and stamina Quote
Dimron Posted March 30 Posted March 30 PS... Watched the highlights this morning... the lad who took their corner for the first goal strode up to take it and he was fully committed and walked like nothing was going to stop him. That is what we lack. Quote
Tombwfc Posted March 30 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, paulhanley said: [b]We lack physique, we lack pace, we lack leadership on the pitch and we can't concentrate defensively. We also lack two other things that SS has been increasingly referencing. We are not clinical and we are not streetwise. [/B] Pretty fundamental stuff and an indictment of what Evatt spent four years building at great expense and backed by crowd averages of 20000 in the third tier. All true. And yet people think our players are good. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Stats eh! Can go down rabbit holes with them. What they do show is that Dion's form fell off a cliff. We know why, and had he still been here then there is nothing to suggest that would have been different. Add in his Huddersfield games, and his rate is worse than Collins. Looking at his games, 3 of his goals came against Reading in the 5-2 win. One of those rare, freakish games where the team really clicks. He was subbed as usual under Evatt, reducing his minutes. Collins didn't start that game. Therefore does that mean Collins is more consistent? Chuck in cup games too. We can analyse as much as we want, but in the end, he wasn't the player he had been. Clearly, there is room for improvement from the front line, but suggesting he's poor is bonkers. The greater issue is the defensive aspects of the side, not the goal scoring. Quote
Tombwfc Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Stats eh! Can go down rabbit holes with them. What they do show is that Dion's form fell off a cliff. We know why, and had he still been here then there is nothing to suggest that would have been different. Add in his Huddersfield games, and his rate is worse than Collins. Looking at his games, 3 of his goals came against Reading in the 5-2 win. One of those rare, freakish games where the team really clicks. He was subbed as usual under Evatt, reducing his minutes. Collins didn't start that game. Therefore does that mean Collins is more consistent? Chuck in cup games too. We can analyse as much as we want, but in the end, he wasn't the player he had been. Clearly, there is room for improvement from the front line, but suggesting he's poor is bonkers. The greater issue is the defensive aspects of the side, not the goal scoring. If you chuck in Dion's 11 games without scoring for Huddersfield, his minutes per goal isn't too far off Collins. If you take away his penalty goals, he still had a better record for us. Do we deduct Collins goals against Birmingham and Huddersfield because they were 'rare games we've clicked'? And I guess the point is, this is Dion having a shocking run in a poor season where people think we were right to get rid. Collins, somehow, will probably win player of the season and is rated as though he's something special. I've never said he's poor for what it's worth, just overrated as much of our team are. Regardless, we didn't replace Dion with Collins, we replaced him with Randall and Etete. Anyone who thinks that represents good business is on another planet (or Ian Evatt). Edited March 31 by Tombwfc Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted March 31 Posted March 31 How many people did Evatt isolate &/or let go because they had a clash ? Fck me, as he fell fully into the "40 passes between defence & keeper" mode he needed bloody telling. He was/is a thin-skinned tosser. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted March 31 Posted March 31 5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Stats eh! Can go down rabbit holes with them. What they do show is that Dion's form fell off a cliff. We know why, and had he still been here then there is nothing to suggest that would have been different. Add in his Huddersfield games, and his rate is worse than Collins. Looking at his games, 3 of his goals came against Reading in the 5-2 win. One of those rare, freakish games where the team really clicks. He was subbed as usual under Evatt, reducing his minutes. Collins didn't start that game. Therefore does that mean Collins is more consistent? Chuck in cup games too. We can analyse as much as we want, but in the end, he wasn't the player he had been. Clearly, there is room for improvement from the front line, but suggesting he's poor is bonkers. The greater issue is the defensive aspects of the side, not the goal scoring. We are in the top 3 for goals scored, however many chances we seem to spurn, but only the bottom 3 and Posh are worse defensively. There's the issue. We have gone a long way backwards from two seasons ago when we let in just 36. Even last year it was only 51, and we only lost 9 games. Quote
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