Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 My semi predictions Croatia v Krauts Holland v Rumania Holland v Kraut final (Spain & Portugal will fade) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) Glad to see Group C is so cut, dried and simplified : (from BBC) The Netherlands have won Group C and will play the Group D runners-up in the quarter-finals. Romania will qualify for the quarter-finals if they beat the Netherlands, eliminating France and Italy. If Romania fail to beat the Netherlands, the winner of France v Italy will go through. If France and Italy draw, a point against the Netherlands would be enough to send Romania through. France must win to have any chance of qualifying. If France and Italy share a score draw (1-1, 2-2, 3-3 etc), Italy will go through if Romania lose (by any score). In this scenario, Italy, Romania and France will be level on two points each but Italy would have scored more goals in games between the 3 teams. Romania will finish bottom of the group if they lose and France and Italy draw 2-2, 3-3 or 4-4. France will finish bottom if they draw 1-1 unless Romania lose 3-0 or by a four-goal margin. If France and Italy draw 0-0, Romania can lose by one goal, two goals or by a three-goal margin other than 3-0 but still qualify. In this scenario, Italy and Romania would have identical head-to-head records, but Romania would have better goal difference in ALL group matches or, in the case of the three-goal defeats, goals scored. France would finish bottom, having scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania. If Romania lose 3-0 to the Dutch, Italy would qualify with a 0-0 draw against France because of their superior coefficient points. France would finish bottom as they would have scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania. If Romania lose by four goals or more and the other game ends 0-0, Italy would proceed with a better overall goal difference than Romania. France would finish bottom as they would have scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania. If France and Italy draw AND Romania avoid defeat, then Romania go through. France and Italy will have identical records and a unprecedented penalty shoot-out will decide who finishes third and fourth. Edited June 17, 2008 by SatanGreavsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 If France and Italy draw AND Romania avoid defeat, then Romania go through. France and Italy will have identical records and a unprecedented penalty shoot-out will decide who finishes third and fourth. FFS! What's the point in that? It's not as if they'll avoid the rotten tomato treatment by finishing third, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 FFS! What's the point in that? It's not as if they'll avoid the rotten tomato treatment by finishing third, is it? It would be ridiculous, unless there is some sort of financial incentive involved. If they win this shoot our for 3rd or 4th place, will they celebrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 FFS! What's the point in that? It's not as if they'll avoid the rotten tomato treatment by finishing third, is it? Something to do with co-efficients (sp) and rankings for the future. I agree with you. A pure waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newquaywhite Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 makes about as much sense as an 18 hole play off next day in golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 makes about as much sense as an 18 hole play off next day in golf At least that decides who wins and not who finishes last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newquaywhite Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 You are of course correct. I should have said " it make considerably less sense than a next day 18 hole play off in golf." To clarify. This shoot out. It was going to be between two teams who were competing there and then that day? France and italy. Could it have arisen that this penalty shoot out would have been required between two teams not facing each other that day.??? That would have been really silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 So,correct me if i'm wrong - but Romania could lose to Holland, but still qualify on TWO POINTS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 So,correct me if i'm wrong - but Romania could lose to Holland, but still qualify on TWO POINTS? AYE! Italy could also go through without winning a game in the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) AYE! Italy could also go through without winning a game in the group. Though I cannot see anything other than an Italian win tonight, I am afraid that a much changed, disinterested Dutch outfit will piss on your chips. Holland 0-2 Rumania. Edited June 17, 2008 by Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Though I cannot see anything other than an Italian win tonight, I am afraid the a much changed, disinterested Dutch outfit will piss on your chips. Holland 0-2 Rumania. I'm afraid you might be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Italy could also go through without winning a game in the group. The scotter ridin', pasta lovin' bottom pinchers did just that in the 1982 World Cup & went on to win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 The scotter ridin', pasta lovin' bottom pinchers did just that in the 1982 World Cup & went on to win it. Aye! Couldn't beat Cameroon, Peru or Poland in the first group stage, but dicked Brazil and Argentina in the second. Jimmy Greaves talked a lot of shit, but he was right about one thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 In qualifying: Holland 0-0 Romania Romania 1-0 Holland Romania won't be underestimated IMO. The Dutch will rest players but they'll still want to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Italy and France will not face a penalty shoot-out on Tuesday no matter what the results are in the final games in Group C, Uefa has confirmed. The European football governing body had suggested a shoot-out could be used to determine which of the two teams finishes bottom of the group. But a Uefa official attempted to clear up the confusion over the matter. "There is no way that France and Italy can go to a penalty shoot-out," a spokesman told BBC Sport. The Netherlands have already secured top spot in the group but the other three teams in the so-called 'Group of Death' are still battling to clinch the other quarter-final berth. A Romania victory would ensure their passage through to the knockout stages and effectively render the France-Italy game meaningless. But on Monday it was claimed that should Romania go through and France and Italy draw then their group positions would be determined by a shoot-out. However, Uefa has clarified that a penalty shoot-out would only be used to determine which team qualifies when two sides finish level on points and cannot be separated by goals scored. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/e...aly/7457863.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Jimmy Greaves talked a lot of shit, but he was right about one thing. Win or lose, have a booze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 How shite are France without Zidane? 2-0 Forza Italia. I reckon Spain will beat Italy in the quarter final though, Pirlo and Gattusso missing fot th'ities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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