Thats the word on the street!

 

I fcuking hope not!

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O'Neil seems to fit Liverpool for me.

Villa are going through a complete transitional period currently looking at the amount of yoof coming through, Maybe O'Neil wanted success rather than development.

 

As for OC going to Liverpool. No chance!

 

AS for any manager taking the Liverpool job, its the same as taking the England job. hiding to nothing!

 

Just my opinion like

The Villa players held a party after O'Neill left there. Apparently even the groundsman hated him

 

didn't Brian Clough too when he managed him at Forest?

 

the mess Liverpool are in I think they'd take on board anyone with a track record of success or turning clubs round as opposed to being likeable!

 

like him or not, Villa have only headed one way since he left, currently bottom 3, parently all the Liverpool players loved Houllier as well!!

didn't Brian Clough too when he managed him at Forest?

 

the mess Liverpool are in I think they'd take on board anyone with a track record of success or turning clubs round as opposed to being likeable!

 

like him or not, Villa have only headed one way since he left, currently bottom 3, parently all the Liverpool players loved Houllier as well!!

Lots of Villa supporters will claim that their current predicament is partly his legacy - as with Rafa's at Liverpool.

 

As already mentioned O'Neill didn't appear to want to bring the younger players through

I reckon Woy the boy will be very unlucky if he gets the sack at Liverpool, the club have been going downhill for a few years - and it's going to take time for them to get back on track.Sacking the manager after such a short space of time won't help them.

The days of Liverpool being a "Big 4" club are long gone imo.

I reckon Woy the boy will be very unlucky if he gets the sack at Liverpool, the club have been going downhill for a few years - and it's going to take time for them to get back on track.Sacking the manager after such a short space of time won't help them.

The days of Liverpool being a "Big 4" club are long gone imo.

 

True, but their supporters wont accept that. They are the most deluded set of idiots about rabbiting on about history all the time. No one gives a fk what you won in the 80s, you're garbage now

I reckon Woy the boy will be very unlucky if he gets the sack at Liverpool, the club have been going downhill for a few years - and it's going to take time for them to get back on track.Sacking the manager after such a short space of time won't help them.

The days of Liverpool being a "Big 4" club are long gone imo.

 

 

Its not a matter of IF he'll get sacked, its when, but like you said, he's inherited a lot of dead wood from what Benitez left. The squad needs a complete overhaul and needs a complete makeover but for that to happen they need money, which they dont have. Whoever replaces Woy needs to be a miracle worker.

Lots of Villa supporters will claim that their current predicament is partly his legacy - as with Rafa's at Liverpool.

 

As already mentioned O'Neill didn't appear to want to bring the younger players through

 

aye and the funny thing is, some Liverpool supporters want Benetez back!

 

as for legacy, no doubt it's true but equally bet that is in some part sour grapes for him walking out on them having spunked loads of cash and never really getting them where they wanted to be, coyle for example is pretty much working with megson's legacy, but he's just a better manager

 

bet they weren't moaning about him when he got them to the cup final!

 

his spending really does make for surprising reading though:

 

http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7504696

 

having spent ?80M+ in his last 2 seasons you'd want more than the 1st qualifying round of the UEFA cup!

 

like you said, the way he left was similar to rafa - the chairman basically told him no more money and work with what you've got so he spat his dummy out and f?cked off (ok rafa was sacked but it was roughly the same scenario)

 

I reckon both Liverpool and Villa's plights this season are more down to the replacements they brought in than the legacys they left

 

bottom line though - ONeill and Benetiz are both cunts who are only happy with money to spend

 

but both would do a better job at liverpool than woy

True, but their supporters wont accept that. They are the most deluded set of idiots about rabbiting on about history all the time. No one gives a fk what you won in the 80s, you're garbage now

 

sort of disagree with that

 

they haven't won the PL in 20 odd years but they won pretty much everything else betweeen 2000-2010 at least once

 

it was really only the last season under Benetez they went sh?t when the club was being ran by clowns from top to bottom

I hope were both wrong, add to the fiscal constraints and losing his best players the apathy of the Bolton public for the fantastic job he is doing, seeing 10,000 empty seats in the Reeebok must make him think what is the point.

 

Hope the rumour is bollox, like you, Mounts. Can't see that move would be in OC's best interests at the moment.

Have to disagree on "apathy of the Bolton public", talking of empty seats. If OC thinks along those lines, he should have consulted the club's history first. I'll post a separate topic on that.

sort of disagree with that

 

they haven't won the PL in 20 odd years but they won pretty much everything else betweeen 2000-2010 at least once

 

it was really only the last season under Benetez they went sh?t when the club was being ran by clowns from top to bottom

 

Cups though. Only really had two of those years where theyve gone into last few weeks with a chance OF title.

 

Come and spend time in the city (i work here) and its horrific (job is ok i mean a good proportion of their fans). Despite nine defeats they still think theyve got one of best squads in country. Ridiculous ex players dont help, one of whom apparently said on saturday "we need to beat teams like bolton to get top four" - ha, get real, that ship sailed a long time ago, and another said woy has to go and someone needs coming in "who can handle pressure of the BIGGEST job in Britain" - WHY IS IT THE BIGGEST JOB? Their fans need to accept that sixth this season would be a respectable season as on paper theyve the sixth best squad. Will never accept that though, devine right to be top they think.

 

I'll also give it until September til theyre on the owners back if he aint spending 40m/50m in the summer and they have a dubious start next year. All that nonsense about only getting hicks and gilette out cos of debts. Mark my words they expect by signing the Messis of the world etc and wont be happy if theyre not. In sum, awful football club, awful fans. Go anywhere but there when you do eventually move on Owen.

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Cups though. Only really had two of those years where theyve gone into last few weeks with a chance OF title.

 

Come and spend time in the city (i work here) and its horrific (job is ok i mean a good proportion of their fans). Despite nine defeats they still think theyve got one of best squads in country. Ridiculous ex players dont help, one of whom apparently said on saturday "we need to beat teams like bolton to get top four" - ha, get real, that ship sailed a long time ago, and another said woy has to go and someone needs coming in "who can handle pressure of the BIGGEST job in Britain" - WHY IS IT THE BIGGEST JOB? Their fans need to accept that sixth this season would be a respectable season as on paper theyve the sixth best squad. Will never accept that though, devine right to be top they think.

 

I'll also give it until September til theyre on the owners back if he aint spending 40m/50m in the summer and they have a dubious start next year. All that nonsense about only getting hicks and gilette out cos of debts. Mark my words they expect by signing the Messis of the world etc and wont be happy if theyre not. In sum, awful football club, awful fans. Go anywhere but there when you do eventually move on Owen.

 

fair dos, they may be deluded, don't know any LFC fans personally

 

but they've hardly been going downhill for a "few" years

 

they were 2nd season before last or something

fair dos, they may be deluded, don't know any LFC fans personally

 

but they've hardly been going downhill for a "few" years

 

they were 2nd season before last or something

 

True, fair point.

 

Citys money has changed everything though. I bet the closed shop "sky four" (united, liverpool, arsenal, chelsea) used to budget every season for champs league money and thus always spend more on transfers. City come along with billionaire sheik and they go "hang on, we could spend 30m this year and still not make top four" hence its put their expenditure down and evened things up a bit allowing tottenham into the frame. Therefore six. Six into four doesnt go, someone has to be the fall guy for city/spurs making top four, unluckily for them it was them. Yet they still Expect top four. Its ok hoping for it, to expect though now hmmm.

 

Started to go wrong there big time when Benitez thought it would be a good idea to say he wanted Gareth Barry before Alonso, they lost a good player there and the slide started. Have to laugh at thought of Gareth Barry before Alonso

True, fair point.

 

Citys money has changed everything though. I bet the closed shop "sky four" (united, liverpool, arsenal, chelsea) used to budget every season for champs league money and thus always spend more on transfers. City come along with billionaire sheik and they go "hang on, we could spend 30m this year and still not make top four" hence its put their expenditure down and evened things up a bit allowing tottenham into the frame. Therefore six. Six into four doesnt go, someone has to be the fall guy for city/spurs making top four, unluckily for them it was them. Yet they still Expect top four. Its ok hoping for it, to expect though now hmmm.

 

Started to go wrong there big time when Benitez thought it would be a good idea to say he wanted Gareth Barry before Alonso, they lost a good player there and the slide started. Have to laugh at thought of Gareth Barry before Alonso

 

agree with all that

 

especially the alonso/barry scenario

 

goes back to what we were saying about oneill/benetiz and spending, they have to, just to get by!

 

he well and truly dug his own player shaped grave there, cock

I'm not so sure Coyle would take it he didn't leave Burnley for Celtic arguably the biggest pull he'll ever get because he had a job to do at Burnley that was unfinished - he left Burnley because he felt he'd took them as far as he could and all he's talked about this season in interviews is that we are a "work in progress" so I think he'd maybe say thanks but no thanks IF he got offered it similar to Alardyce and Newcastle first time round - the man has integrity - IF they have a big transfer kitty to wave at someone they'll attract a bigger name manager if they haven't a big transfer budget and want to try for someone in a job like Coyle they might decide the grass isn't always greener having seen how badly hodgsons had itso they'd go O Neill........ok i've sufficently convinced myself we've nothing to worry about.

well my father taught me well and one thing I learned was:

 

 

Never trust man who doesn't drink

I think there might be something in in this story,I thought Coyle was unusually quiet on the touch line against Wigan and a little less enthusiastic in his after match interview, I could be wrong but I have a little nagging doubt in the back of my mind that there will be a decision for him to make.

 

 

 

I too had this feeling and the fact that the team played well under par as though ITK?!?!?!

Why would he lower himself?

well my father taught me well and one thing I learned was:

 

 

Never trust man who doesn't drink

 

Whats the reason behind him not drinking?? i bet he fcuks everything that moves after a few shandies, so he stays off the sauce to eliminate the temptation

Maybe he likes the taste of other drinks and is not arsed about the effect of alcohol.

Maybe he likes the taste of other drinks and is not arsed about the effect of alcohol.

 

Do you drink alcohol Diddles??

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No, but there is a reason why I don't. Summat I've seen close to me, that I didn't like and decided it's not for me.

No, but there is a reason why I don't. Summat I've seen close to me, that I didn't like and decided it's not for me.

 

OK each to there own and all that

No, but there is a reason why I don't. Summat I've seen close to me, that I didn't like and decided it's not for me.

 

 

Fair play to you Didles. It'll not do you any harm not to sup if you feel that way. It doesn't suit everyone.

Lots of Villa supporters will claim that their current predicament is partly his legacy - as with Rafa's at Liverpool.

 

As already mentioned O'Neill didn't appear to want to bring the younger players through

 

I live with 3 big Villa fans and they were gutted when O'Neill left. He was their most successful manager in a long time and had a very talented and effective team.

 

Yes he spent money on some shite, but he also took a big risk when spending ?10m on Young, who is now worth over double that. And he picked up Milner for well under half the price they sold him for just a few seasons on.

 

As for not bringing through youth, well Agbonlahor isn't half bad and you can only bring through youth that is good enough, and as they have shown when they have played this season they are not good enough!

 

The lads seem to think that O'Neill was only happy to let Milner go if he could use the money to invest in the squad, when Lerner told him he was getting none of it he decided that he had taken them as far as he could and he was off. Worst decision Lerner has made in their opinion and it seems Houllier has undone O'Neills 3 or 4 years work in 3 or 4 months.

 

Oh and as for this whole party when he left thing, it was the players that were on the fringe that weren't happy at not being played, but seen as the starting 11 was doing so well I don't see the problem, bit like Coyle with our set 11.

I live with 3 big Villa fans and they were gutted when O'Neill left. He was their most successful manager in a long time and had a very talented and effective team.

 

Yes he spent money on some shite, but he also took a big risk when spending ?10m on Young, who is now worth over double that. And he picked up Milner for well under half the price they sold him for just a few seasons on.

 

As for not bringing through youth, well Agbonlahor isn't half bad and you can only bring through youth that is good enough, and as they have shown when they have played this season they are not good enough!

 

The lads seem to think that O'Neill was only happy to let Milner go if he could use the money to invest in the squad, when Lerner told him he was getting none of it he decided that he had taken them as far as he could and he was off. Worst decision Lerner has made in their opinion and it seems Houllier has undone O'Neills 3 or 4 years work in 3 or 4 months.

 

Oh and as for this whole party when he left thing, it was the players that were on the fringe that weren't happy at not being played, but seen as the starting 11 was doing so well I don't see the problem, bit like Coyle with our set 11.

 

We've clearly heard very, very different things

 

As I've been told, it wasn't just the peripheral players but pretty much the whole group

 

The Villa fan I knows was up in arms when Villa let a number of players go including Knight and Cahill yet relying on an old cripple like Martin Laursen.

 

Agbonlahor came through in O'Leary's reign and was a 1st teamer when O'Neill arrived, he can't claim a success of him.

 

?8m for Young was a gamble and it's paid off, but it was alot of money for him at the time; if you spend the kind of money that O'Neill did, you'll get one or two right.

 

O'Neill left Villa in disarray and they've never recovered