jayjayoghani Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Matt Clarke turned out to be one of the greatest loan signings this club has ever made. a save in the Preston play-off final stands out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 A poor keeper with 4 average defenders in front of him. We let jussi go too soon and selling al habsi was criminal. Its no wonder we are near the bottom is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 A poor keeper with 4 average defenders in front of him. We let jussi go too soon and selling al habsi was criminal. Its no wonder we are near the bottom is it? Change the fucking record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 We let jussi go too soon and selling al habsi was criminal. Selling Al Habsi was the right thing to do at the time.....the money we got for him wasn't spent as wisely as it could have been, but selling him back the was the right thing to do in order to free up funds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 2, 2012 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2012 bogdan is a good young keeper he's been motm in 2 of freedmans 6 games i'd say he is far from the worst regular keeper we've had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HR Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Has he really got potential? What makes you think that, is it because he's young? I do agree, he's the least of our worries, and it can't be easy for him playing I a team that has been a bit cack since he was given the job on a regular basis Just lacking consistency through maturity. He's not a flapper and does all the right things, his catching of crosses and distribution are excellent at times. He was thrown in out of his depth last season too early to be put under such pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 2, 2012 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2012 his catching of crosses and distribution are excellent at times. He was thrown in out of his depth last season too early to be put under such pressure. indeedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 The point about Al Habsi was that as well as his 16 games for Bolton he had played a full season (less the first 2 games) on loan at Wigan. His owning club manager should have been fully aware of his performances by watching the available footage. Not for nothing was he Player of the Season at Wigan. Without him then, they would have got mired in the Championship. So to let him go can fairly be described as criminal. But that's over. Bogdan is Hungary's first choice nowadays, so he must have something to offer. However if you want experience Grocics is available, although he hasn't played since he started for Ferencvaros against Sheffield United in 2008 pre-season. And he was 82 at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Felgate wasn't great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan.Kerr Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Bogdan will be ok when he's got if he gets the same back four playing regularly in front of him week in week out. Oh, and Alan Boswell. Was he crap or am I remembering all wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Kevin Rose, he never grows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted December 2, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2012 Aidan Davidson? aiden davidson, he dived when the ball hit the net Pretty sure a lot of our FA Cup giant killing was done with Davidson in goal. Some folk have short memories tough and are too quick to blame the LAST LINE OF DEFENCE rather that the players in defence. It happened then and it happens now and all the time between the two periods. If we ship goals like yesterday it's easy to say Bogdan was crap, he dropped the ball. How about questioning why our midfielders and forwards aren't killing teams off to the extent that a goal, or even two, in the last five minutes would mean nothing? How about asking the defenders to ensure that the opposition don't get near the goal? There's a load of folk to look at before we look at the keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted December 2, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2012 Donovan ricketts was ace Bogroll is fine and will only get better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Change the fucking record. I agree there is no use going on about it but he was right. I remember a previous post from you disagreeing that selling Al Habsi was one of Coyles biggest (of many) fuck ups.How do you come to that opinion? For me that's were it all started to go wrong and that is definitely not hindsight, many said so at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ands1 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Anyone on here actually played in goal at a good level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted December 2, 2012 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2012 It started going wrong when we brought in another goalkeeping coach, Jussi went really shit, whether he was just sulking I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Change the fucking record. but its correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I agree there is no use going on about it but he was right. I remember a previous post from you disagreeing that selling Al Habsi was one of Coyles biggest (of many) fuck ups.How do you come to that opinion? For me that's were it all started to go wrong and that is definitely not hindsight, many said so at the time. At the time Al Hasbi wanted first team action,Jussi was number 1 with no sign being anything else for the foreseeable future. We also had a good prospect in Bogdan coming through the ranks,who was earmarked as a Jussi in the making. We need the cash,and he didnt have long left on his contract. Therefore it made sense. We can all look back with retrospect and say Al Hasbi should of been given the chance etc,but there wasnt room for two number 1's,so one had to go.... And it was never going to be Jussi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 At the time Al Hasbi wanted first team action,Jussi was number 1 with no sign being anything else for the foreseeable future. We also had a good prospect in Bogdan coming through the ranks,who was earmarked as a Jussi in the making. We need the cash,and he didnt have long left on his contract. Therefore it made sense. We can all look back with retrospect and say Al Hasbi should of been given the chance etc,but there wasnt room for two number 1's,so one had to go.... And it was never going to be Jussi Bless you and thank you. X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithills_gent Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 At the time Al Hasbi wanted first team action,Jussi was number 1 with no sign being anything else for the foreseeable future. We also had a good prospect in Bogdan coming through the ranks,who was earmarked as a Jussi in the making. We need the cash,and he didnt have long left on his contract. Therefore it made sense. We can all look back with retrospect and say Al Hasbi should of been given the chance etc,but there wasnt room for two number 1's,so one had to go.... And it was never going to be Jussi Why not? He was considered worse than Bogdan a few months later and left on a free at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 At the time Al Hasbi wanted first team action,Jussi was number 1 with no sign being anything else for the foreseeable future. We also had a good prospect in Bogdan coming through the ranks,who was earmarked as a Jussi in the making. We need the cash,and he didnt have long left on his contract. Therefore it made sense. We can all look back with retrospect and say Al Hasbi should of been given the chance etc,but there wasnt room for two number 1's,so one had to go.... And it was never going to be Jussi it made coyle sense! ok so if it were a 20 goal a season scoring centre forward would it still have made sense? no it only made sense cause he was a goalie, if Croyel had the sense to see it as Clough he would have kept him or saw how well he had done at wiggin and brought him back and made him first choice, ~Coyle spunked v the money on useless forwards anyway, We got relegated cause our goalie was shit and we couldnt score. Good goalies are as valuable as 18 goal a season forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Anyone on here actually played in goal at a good level? Me. I'm Andoni Zubizarreta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 2, 2012 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2012 At the time Al Hasbi wanted first team action,Jussi was number 1 with no sign being anything else for the foreseeable future. We also had a good prospect in Bogdan coming through the ranks,who was earmarked as a Jussi in the making. We need the cash,and he didnt have long left on his contract. Therefore it made sense. We can all look back with retrospect and say Al Hasbi should of been given the chance etc,but there wasnt room for two number 1's,so one had to go.... And it was never going to be Jussi And if al habsi had been in the side making some of the cock ups he makes at Wigan with jussi off playing well somewhere else, like west ham it'd be a different outlook completely Where we are now is shit but it wasn't because we let al habsi go to Wigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Why not? He was considered worse than Bogdan a few months later and left on a free at the end of the season. At the time being the most important point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 At the time Al Hasbi wanted first team action,Jussi was number 1 with no sign being anything else for the foreseeable future. We also had a good prospect in Bogdan coming through the ranks,who was earmarked as a Jussi in the making. We need the cash,and he didnt have long left on his contract. Therefore it made sense. We can all look back with retrospect and say Al Hasbi should of been given the chance etc,but there wasnt room for two number 1's,so one had to go.... And it was never going to be Jussi It was the right time to replace Jussi, the signs were all there, one keeper on the wane, the other on the rise.If Coyle had had any gumption at all he would have made Al Habsi number one, goalkeeping problem solved for the foreseeable future . And we would still be in the prem (even with Coyle), I honestly believe that but it's all academic now. I also think its very harsh to describe Bogdan as the worst keeper for 30 years but he was thrown in to soon. Coyle made error after error with the goalkeeping position and we are where we are, two of our ex keepers performing well in the prem, us with a young lad who might never fulfil his potential now as his confidence must be taking a battering. That is criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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