Jump to content
Wanderers Ways. Neil Thompson 1961-2021

Forest 3 Bolton 0


M G WHITES

Recommended Posts

  • Moderators

Nah, I thought we were giving it one last go at promotion whilst we still had parachute money. What's actually happening is that we are cutting our cloth to operate in the Championship long term, whilst clubs like QPR spunk money.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nah, I thought we were giving it one last go at promotion whilst we still had parachute money. What's actually happening is that we are cutting our cloth to operate in the Championship long term, whilst clubs like QPR spunk money.

 

 

Aye

 

Id love to see how much less our wage bill is this year compared to last year

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Moderators

Aye

 

Id love to see how much less our wage bill is this year compared to last year

 

i'm sure its significantly lower or will be if he can unload mills and ream, but he knew the score when he came

 

i don't think lower wages means we can't push to be at the top end of this league

 

the palace team weren't on big money and even holloway was good enough to finish freedmans job

 

its hardly a shock we look a bit lacking going forward when we're not able to play davies, eagles and ngog...maybe add moritz to that list,

 

not many teams in this league could cope with the loss of them

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nah, I thought we were giving it one last go at promotion whilst we still had parachute money. What's actually happening is that we are cutting our cloth to operate in the Championship long term

 

I came to this conclusion myself over the weekend. We're certainly not going daft with transfer fees, and without doubt our wage bill will be a lot lower this season than last, and next seasons will probably be even lower still as we get some of the higher earners off the books. I'm probably wrong, but it looks to me as though we are properly building for the future now and we're not going for a "quick fix" - even if that means staying in this division for another couple of seasons. I'm sure we're still going to give it a push for promotion, we'll just have to do it within our means now which you would imagine will not be quite enough. 

 

It's probably the sensible thing to do, but I would still rather we had splashed a bit of cash (that we don't have...) in order to give it a real go this season whilst we still have a bit of parachute money coming in

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We've now gone through 3 managers who all want to pick zat knight and I still don't know why

 

Ironic then that Julian Darby was part of the trio that dropped Knight and he is know the Forest coach. Do you think that he said run straight at the middle of the Bolton defence early doors before they went out?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Trouble is, Knight is the best CB we've got.

 

Wheater's one of the slowest human beings I've ever seen.  He doesn't help himself by always getting so tight to the forward, meaning that once he's been turned he has to resort to hauling them back.  Can't fault his effort though.  I wish Knight had his heart.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Trouble is, Knight is the best CB we've got.

This, with great big bells on!

 

If/when we get a new CB, it'll be Wheater thats dropped, Knight will still be in the team. In order for Knight to be dropped, we would have to sign two CBs

 

Having said that, I'm not sure what Mills has done to upset Dougie (unless he's injured) - I would certainly be giving him a game alongside Knight next time out, as the Knight/Wheater partnership doesn't seem to be working

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Id have Wheater in the team over Knight any day of the week. Knight must suck a good dick or something because hes fooking shite at football. The amount of Individual errors he makes is just ridiculous.

 

Put Wheater alongside a defender with half a brain and a yard of pace it would be a good partnership. Put Knight alongside a defender with half a brain and the other guy is a nervous wreck.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Id have Wheater in the team over Knight any day of the week. Knight must suck a good dick or something because hes fooking shite at football. The amount of Individual errors he makes is just ridiculous.

 

Put Wheater alongside a defender with half a brain and a yard of pace it would be a good partnership. Put Knight alongside a defender with half a brain and the other guy is a nervous wreck.

Agree Knight should be nowhere near this football club - none of our centre backs have the ability to do well in our set up, but what I cant forgive knight for is his lack of effort and passion, and the desire to put right his mistakes - and a fuckin big weekly wage

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Id have Wheater in the team over Knight any day of the week. Knight must suck a good dick or something because hes fooking shite at football. The amount of Individual errors he makes is just ridiculous.

 

Put Wheater alongside a defender with half a brain and a yard of pace it would be a good partnership. Put Knight alongside a defender with half a brain and the other guy is a nervous wreck.

 

 

Agree Knight should be nowhere near this football club - none of our centre backs have the ability to do well in our set up, but what I cant forgive knight for is his lack of effort and passion, and the desire to put right his mistakes - and a fuckin big weekly wage

 

I disagree with both of you, as do three BWFC managers past and present.

 

Wheater is a liability, and has been since he was signed. I never could understand people saying "we'll be OK when Wheater is back", apart from maybe comparing him to Mills. The reason Knight makes mistakes (and looked considerably less likely to do so when playing with Dawson) is that he doesn't trust his centre back partner to have his back. The problem we have at the moment is that people have got such a hard-on for getting Knight hounded out that every mistake he makes is being pounced on, which again isn't the best formula for getting him to play well (and shocking behaviour from so called "fans").

 

Honestly, I'd play Ream and Knight. More than capable at this level. I'd play Ream as more of a "sweeper" so that if Knight does make a mistake, Ream can use his "pace" (all relative admittedly) to mop up. I guarantee that with this extra level of protection behind him, Knight will make less mistakes.

 

If you honestly think that a player's ability is only down to himself and not the players around him, I pity you.

 

And as for attacking him "lack of effort and passion"... I guess if someone doesn't gee up the crowd then they mustn't care huh? Do me a favour mate.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I disagree with both of you, as do three BWFC managers past and present.

 

Wheater is a liability, and has been since he was signed. I never could understand people saying "we'll be OK when Wheater is back", apart from maybe comparing him to Mills. The reason Knight makes mistakes (and looked considerably less likely to do so when playing with Dawson) is that he doesn't trust his centre back partner to have his back. The problem we have at the moment is that people have got such a hard-on for getting Knight hounded out that every mistake he makes is being pounced on, which again isn't the best formula for getting him to play well (and shocking behaviour from so called "fans").

 

Honestly, I'd play Ream and Knight. More than capable at this level. I'd play Ream as more of a "sweeper" so that if Knight does make a mistake, Ream can use his "pace" (all relative admittedly) to mop up. I guarantee that with this extra level of protection behind him, Knight will make less mistakes.

 

If you honestly think that a player's ability is only down to himself and not the players around him, I pity you.

 

And as for attacking him "lack of effort and passion"... I guess if someone doesn't gee up the crowd then they mustn't care huh? Do me a favour mate.

As has been mentioned on here too many times Knights seemingly couldn't give a shit attitude, in laughing and joking with opposition players after a devastating defeat is what pisses me off - I can forgive someone for being shit - it is the managers fault for sticking with a shit player, but i cant forgive his attitude.

Fuck knows what 3 of our managers see in him - but interesting when he was touting himself about last summer no one was seemingly interested in him.

 

And surely we shouldnt have to choose Knights centreback partner just for his ability to cover for his mistakes, and whilst I am on one over that useless lump, why does he go forward for every corner - he very rarely makes a telling contribution in the opponents penalty area

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I disagree with both of you, as do three BWFC managers past and present.

 

Wheater is a liability, and has been since he was signed. I never could understand people saying "we'll be OK when Wheater is back", apart from maybe comparing him to Mills. The reason Knight makes mistakes (and looked considerably less likely to do so when playing with Dawson) is that he doesn't trust his centre back partner to have his back. The problem we have at the moment is that people have got such a hard-on for getting Knight hounded out that every mistake he makes is being pounced on, which again isn't the best formula for getting him to play well (and shocking behaviour from so called "fans").

 

Honestly, I'd play Ream and Knight. More than capable at this level. I'd play Ream as more of a "sweeper" so that if Knight does make a mistake, Ream can use his "pace" (all relative admittedly) to mop up. I guarantee that with this extra level of protection behind him, Knight will make less mistakes.

 

If you honestly think that a player's ability is only down to himself and not the players around him, I pity you.

 

And as for attacking him "lack of effort and passion"... I guess if someone doesn't gee up the crowd then they mustn't care huh? Do me a favour mate.

 

Get to fuck. He has cocked up alongside every centre half hes played with. Cahill used to carry him and so did Dawson. He is an accident waiting to happen every game. I don't give a shiny shit how many managers have picked him as well, ive seen him make more cock ups than a German porno and im bored of seeing it.

 

Knight cant attack the ball and he cant play with ball at his feet. You need one of them to be a decent defender imo and hes got neither.

 

Every opposition fan who I speak to who have played against us pick him out straight away and call him shit before ive even said anything.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This, with great big bells on!

 

If/when we get a new CB, it'll be Wheater thats dropped, Knight will still be in the team. In order for Knight to be dropped, we would have to sign two CBs

 

Having said that, I'm not sure what Mills has done to upset Dougie (unless he's injured) - I would certainly be giving him a game alongside Knight next time out, as the Knight/Wheater partnership doesn't seem to be working

 

 

2+2 = 5 here

 

but has anyone seen the Spearing video on the day he signs?

 

Is it me or do Spearing and Mills completely ignore each other?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Three managers may have picked Knight, it's true. I don't see too many folk clamouring for the previous two to be reinstated, though.

 

The first goal on Saturday stemmed from a woeful touch from Knight, but the ball was a long way from goal at that point and Baptiste's positioning on the outside of Mackie was as much, if not more to blame. I want Medo reacting quicker, too.

 

Medo and Knight are at fault for the second, too - Medo let's his man run away from him on the edge of the area, sticks his hand up hopefully for offside and then does nothing like enough to stop the cross. We've been here before, but Knight's sole job in this situation is to cut the ball out at the near post - instead, his lack of positioning takes him into the six yard box and creates the angle for the pull back.

 

The third goal is a dog's dinner of a job, with Medo, again, not coming out of it at all well - with Tierney out of position on the opposite side, Medo has to get out to the winger, but it takes Knight to give him a shove in the right direction before he does his job.

 

And I don't think we have to hold hands at set pieces because we play too much Red Rover in training.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fair spot Enzo but are you suggesting Baptiste having played with the Knightmare on 3 occasions should be wise enough to know he is likely, with time and under no great pressure, to pass the ball to the opposition? If so, then he should have tighter on Mackie. Lets face it Knight does it with regularity - Yeah Baptistes fault. Sorry my thoughts on Knight are clear but I dont pick the team so perhaps we should give our skipper some support along with all the boys on Saturday. We were vulnerable at Forest and will be again against a confident QPR. Full vocal support required..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fair spot Enzo but are you suggesting Baptiste having played with the Knightmare on 3 occasions should be wise enough to know he is likely, with time and under no great pressure, to pass the ball to the opposition? If so, then he should have tighter on Mackie. Lets face it Knight does it with regularity - Yeah Baptistes fault. Sorry my thoughts on Knight are clear but I dont pick the team so perhaps we should give our skipper some support along with all the boys on Saturday. We were vulnerable at Forest and will be again against a confident QPR. Full vocal support required..

Knight will get my support 100% during the game, but in the pubs before and after I will question DF for having him anywhere near the first team - he is one useless Cunt

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fair spot Enzo but are you suggesting Baptiste having played with the Knightmare on 3 occasions should be wise enough to know he is likely, with time and under no great pressure, to pass the ball to the opposition?

Not really. Baptiste's starting position on the wrong side of Mackie is poor, irrespective of who is, er, inside him. It doesn't help that Knight can't pass the ball five yards or move his feet quickly enough to cut out the through ball, mind.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'd rather have Knight than Wheater but that says more about Wheater then Knight

 

I can't believe how bad Wheater was against Reading, he was pub league standard on the deck and got battered in the air by their centre halves at set pieces

 

Putting Knight's mistakes down to him worrying about his partner is pure fantasy though and a quite ridiculous leap

 

The whole situation is very worrying

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'd rather have Knight than Wheater but that says more about Wheater then Knight

 

I can't believe how bad Wheater was against Reading, he was pub league standard on the deck and got battered in the air by their centre halves at set pieces

 

Putting Knight's mistakes down to him worrying about his partner is pure fantasy though and a quite ridiculous leap

 

The whole situation is very worrying

Baisicaly we have 2 shit centre halves (and the options of Mills and Reams doesnt fill me with confidence) with only 2 weeks to transfer window shutting, I think we need to bring 2 CH in, or God forbid move Baptiste into the middle and bring in Mears at RB

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.