bulldog Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Not sure we can give him any more time. Can we get rid of gartside too? After some of his choices in recent years can we trust him to get it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted January 18, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 It's just a shame he's a red. I think he'd do a good job for us.  Plus he 'discovered' Craig Dawson amongst other decent players like Le Fondre. Rochdale played well today in case I hadn't mentioned I'd been  In any case, patience is wearing thin, i really really think he was could he the reet fella, but not sure how much more a can take, worst start since 1911 or whatever it was then today glimpses have shown we can play well,  So frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted January 18, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 Get rid, get Phillips back in with Sammy Lee,  cant be any worse, wont cost us anymore this season that what we're already paying out (DF's pay to end of season).  They know the youth team well enough, they can replace the dead wood,  Get Eaves Back from loan and play him upfront with Davies,  White, Riley Bolger and Knight in defence  Eagles Medo Moritz and Hall/odelusi  Not totally stripping out the experience, bringing in young players who will want to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 1982....was it on the plastic pitch ? Â it was pal,and just 22 went on the travel club coach. approx half are posters on here,myself included. before anyone else says it,tony knowles knocked the fuck out of steve davies in the snooker the same day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Get rid, get Phillips back in with Sammy Lee,  cant be any worse, wont cost us anymore this season that what we're already paying out (DF's pay to end of season).  They know the youth team well enough, they can replace the dead wood,  Get Eaves Back from loan and play him upfront with Davies,  White, Riley Bolger and Knight in defence  Eagles Medo Moritz and Hall/odelusi  Not totally stripping out the experience, bringing in young players who will want to play  I think that team would get completely raped... like MORE than 7-1.  Honesly, I would only change a few... put Davies up top with Ngog, maybe White in at right full back and move Baptiste back to left, Ream and Mills in the centre.  Midfield would vary depending on the situation, but I'd have one of Medo or Spearing with one of Davies or Moritz, with Eagles and Chungy on the wings. Edited January 18, 2014 by SnoopJohnnyJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 All this who would we get in/ we don't have the cash is bullshit. Â There's 2 very feasible options. Â Promote from within, Jimmy Phillips with Sammy Lee alongside. It personally wouldn't be my choice because we're back at square 1 of being unproven etc, but there's no reason it couldn't happen. Â The other option is you find the gem that's in league 1, 2 or even in the champ. There will be some in there it's just whether you trust Gartside to find them. If you could find the right person then 99% would jump at the chance. Let's be honest their remit would be to keep us up this year which is more than doable, then you've got a lot of the wage bill leaving in the summer and you start again next season. We're still a good option for any manager in the football league other than about 8 with a realistic chance of promotion to the prem this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted January 18, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 Mike Bassett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL3 white Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 People saying get eaves back, have they seen him play. He as to go. Do the stats say he's the worst we have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blixa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 All this who would we get in/ we don't have the cash is bullshit. Â Â The cash issue is less paying someone new, more paying off existing team. That's pretty obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blixa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 People saying get eaves back, have they seen him play. He as to go. Do the stats say he's the worst we have had. Â Eaves will get binned in close season. He's league one at best. That's probably being kind too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The cash issue is less paying someone new, more paying off existing team. That's pretty obvious. Â But that cash is already spent, it's a sunk cost. We pay Dougie and his team whether he is here as our manager or whether we sack him and have to pay his contract up. Â The issue is that when we bring someone new in then we pay them as well as continuing to pay Dougie so IMO my point still stands, if you find the right person from a smaller club (harder than it sounds admittedly) then you would not have to stick them on a massive wage to persuade them to join us, if we are really struggling for cash then we sacrifice bringing in a player and that offsets the new managers wage. Â The question then becomes what would make more of a difference, bringing in 1 more player with Freedman in charge or 1 less with another man in. I know which I'd prefer with the way it's going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 was it not last week  the best we have played and he was up there with god  JSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL3 white Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Eaves will get binned in close season. He's league one at best. That's probably being kind too. That's what I meant. People seem to think he's the next Andy Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 18, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 was it not last week  the best we have played and he was up there with god  JSL Yes!  But that dizzy cunt seems to have ignored all the good things about that game and reverted to the same tinpot formation that has ensured several bumming a already this season.  We are capable of competing, that's what really pisses me off, but freedman then baffles by doing what he did today.  4 4 2  Repeat until vomit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2014 We are capable of competing, that's what really pisses me off, but freedman then baffles by doing what he did today. Blatant moaners aside, that's where most minds seem to have been this season  Some say there's bigger picture  suspect it's quite the minority now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL3 white Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Everybody wanted his appointment to work, but it's clearly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yes!  But that dizzy cunt seems to have ignored all the good things about that game and reverted to the same tinpot formation that has ensured several bumming a already this season.  We are capable of competing, that's what really pisses me off, but freedman then baffles by doing what he did today.  4 4 2  Repeat until vomit 4 4 fucking 2 are you takeing the piss we need  four four fucking four Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Need 8-2 at the minute to shore up that defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted January 18, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 hes brought in 18 players since he came.. Â Â still blaming the players.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted January 18, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 who are the 18 Swanny id like to see the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted January 18, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 Davies, Bolger Kamara, butterfield, Dawson, De ridder Hall , Danny Butterfield, Baptiste, Hall (Purchase) Tierney, White, Wilkinson, Beckford, Fraser, Bukran, Moritz, Lee-Barett, Spearing (Purchase), Danns, Feeney, McNaughton, Mason. Â that's 21 altogether... (excluding Hall and Spearing signing twice). Â so saying he doesn't have the players is a shite excuse, Â If hes getting players for the youth system its pointless till the 1st team is stabilised. Baring in mind we're probably heavily subsidising Keith Andrews and Marvin Sordell, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted January 18, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 When did we last play 442? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 When did we last play 442? Â Blackpool in't cup. cant remember last league game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroySwoosh Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I am now firmly in the get rid camp, the 'italian' style is not working, there is no chance playing the way he wants us to play will give us a run up the table, it is too negative  pay their wages and fuck them off, get jimmy phillips in, fuck it, get mcginlay in as assisstant (both till end of season) get some passion in the dressing room  whats Bruce Rioch doing these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 any basis for that other than nostalgia troy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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