no balls Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 It's France's Problem. Not ours. trouble is they were openly saying they are hell bent on coming over here, then it's ours. You'd think being an island and all that, but.... Like Baz and I are saying, why come here? It's a bit shit if you're seen as a racist Farage supporter for wondering though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Indeed as no one even thought about it before he came on the scene. Maybe you need to give folk a little more credit in their ability to think for themselvesI meant its not that as big an issue as has been stated but folk have been convinced an immigration block will be the return of something marvelous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 trouble is they were openly saying they are hell bent on coming over here, then it's ours. You'd think being an island and all that, but.... Like Baz and I are saying, why come here? It's a bit shit if you're seen as a racist Farage supporter for wondering though. We have border controls to stop them. Obviously some will slip through,but most won't. I really don't see what the problem is. Not like they are all on their way to H town is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Just seen it great job by the French police keep the good work up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I meant its not that as big an issue as has been stated but folk have been convinced an immigration block will be the return of something marvelous. It's up there with benefit claimants as a target for more attention than it warrants. Yes it's an issue but certainly not the most pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 It's up there with benefit claimants as a target for more attention than it warrants. Yes it's an issue but certainly not the most pressing. That's my thinking. Sadly seems easy to sway the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 The issue is that they have to cross many, many friendly countries that pose no danger at all before getting here. If they were fearing for their lives any one of these would do but they carry on until they get here. I dont know why, and would love to ask them. It is quite bizarre, usually they (refugees from war or persecution) just settle down first safe place they find... This is why Lake Geneva and it's shores is the area of highest Jewish population in the entire World, followed closely by Norfolk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I think the fact that people learn English must be a contributing factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Because we're great and the rest of Europe is shite? We should be flattered, anyhow, the only Syrian I've met in Bolton has improved the local Kebab shop 100% and is seemingly a friendly and hardworking bloke, with better command of English than a lot of the locals, so, so far so good on the Syrian front of newcomers to the town, in my personal experience. Edited May 28, 2014 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 28, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2014 The issue is that they have to cross many, many friendly countries that pose no danger at all before getting here. If they were fearing for their lives any one of these would do but they carry on until they get here. I dont know why, and would love to ask them. Barry I owe you a pint This is the perfect summary. Excellent, brilliant post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Not like they are all on their way to H town is it? They're destitute, desperate, fleeing persecution, the possibility of torture or death is never far from their minds, but there is a line in the sand even they won't pass... That line is the Beehive roundabout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted May 28, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2014 The issue is that they have to cross many, many friendly countries that pose no danger at all before getting here. If they were fearing for their lives any one of these would do but they carry on until they get here. I dont know why, and would love to ask them. http://www.swansea.ac.uk/international/global-research/whyasylumseekerscometotheuk/ Some research did ask a cross section, the answers given don't really match the perception , ( of benefits and council houses etc)in this report anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 28, 2014 Moderators Share Posted May 28, 2014 That's obviously bullshit Interesting that one of the things 'proud Brit' can be rightfully proud of is our compassion and our willingness to oppose persecution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Read some good topics on the clear out. One said when they all come back again in a few weeks, they will get issued with French passports so they can do what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It's up there with benefit claimants as a target for more attention than it warrants. Yes it's an issue but certainly not the most pressing. £2bn a year last time I checked on benefit fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 £2bn a year last time I checked on benefit fraud. 32 trillion is said to be hidden in off shore bank accounts by the super rich across the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 29, 2014 Members Share Posted May 29, 2014 32 trillion is said to be hidden in off shore bank accounts by the super rich across the world. Fuck me - some people would grasp at anything. Absolutely no relationship whatsoever to illegal immigrants of the economic variety. IF it exists, it is still theirs so if it wasn't 'hidden' what fucking difference would it make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Fuck me - some people would grasp at anything. Absolutely no relationship whatsoever to illegal immigrants of the economic variety. IF it exists, it is still theirs so if it wasn't 'hidden' what fucking difference would it make? Now who's biting!? I only drew comparison to highlight folk get their knickers in a twist about benefit fraud/tax evavsion at one end of the scale,yet seemingly don't bat their cap at the other. The rich in this country will get away with paying more tax in this country than the poor and illegals by a long chaulk. Edited May 29, 2014 by gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Now who's biting!? I only drew comparison to highlight folk get their knickers in a twist about benefit fraud/tax evavsion at one end of the scale,yet seemingly don't bat their cap at the other. The rich in this country will get away with paying more tax in this country than the poor and illegals by a long chaulk. Now who's biting!? I only drew comparison to highlight folk get their knickers in a twist about benefit fraud/tax evavsion at one end of the scale,yet seemingly don't bat their cap at the other. The rich in this country will get away with paying more tax in this country than the poor and illegals by a long chaulk. Don't believe everything you hear on the BBC, Gon£ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted May 29, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted May 29, 2014 I heard the report on R5 yesterday, they wanted to come here because we give them a roof over their head and support straight away but in France they have to wait 4 months for the basics. Also, many have a basic grasp of English but not French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 As others have said, why here. I do not accept its a language thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 29, 2014 Members Share Posted May 29, 2014 Now who's biting!? I only drew comparison to highlight folk get their knickers in a twist about benefit fraud/tax evavsion at one end of the scale,yet seemingly don't bat their cap at the other. The rich in this country will get away with paying more tax in this country than the poor and illegals by a long chaulk. Don't taulk rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 One said "I'm coming because I have brothers "yeah ok fuck off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 29, 2014 Members Share Posted May 29, 2014 Australia had a similar problem. Conservative government elected in its own right last September (and no interfering quangos from any common market type arrangements to contend with) and, from over 10,000 illegals arriving on boats in the last 145 days of the Gillard/Rudd Labor government we have now reached 17 illegal people attempting to arrive on boats in the first 145 days of 2014. Of these 17, 8 were turned back and 9 processed through a camp on the island of Nauru (who will almost certainly end up being sent back to where they came from). John Howard did it previously. Scott Morrison is doing it now. If you don't take strong action, they will keep coming and, no matter what any Blackpool do gooders and their ilk say, their numbers will put pressure on everything - the NHS, social security payments etc., etc. Still, kind and generous British taxpayers like The Gonzo are happy to contribute to the upkeep of the less fortunate fleeing oppression (even if it is economic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 If you were them, where would you go? You'd go to the place where you'll be treated best wouldn't you? I certainly would. I'm not saying it's right and that we should open the gates and let them in with open arms, but fuck me, the way they're ALL being spoken about you'd think they're the scum of the earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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