Moderators Zico Posted December 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) Good documentary on BT sports about Jean Marc Bosman, presented by David Ginola One of the first players to take advantage was Paul Lambert, who ended up winning the CL at Dortmund A case which changed football and gave players opportunities they'd never would've had otherwise Apart from Jean Marc Bosman, fucked his career right up and led to booze and depression, as well as moving back in with his mum, after he spent five years in court not playing whilst trying to make his point Edited December 9, 2020 by ZicoKelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 9, 2020 Members Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Good documentary on BT sports about Jean Marc Bosman, presented by David Ginola One of the first players to take advantage was Paul Lambert, who ended up winning the CL at Dortmund A case which changed football and gave players opportunities they'd never would've had otherwise Apart from Jean Marc Bosman, fucked his career right up and led to booze and depression, as well as moving back in with his mum, after he spent five years in court not playing whilst trying to make his point Spoiler alert dickhead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rudy said: Spoiler alert dickhead! "Mad" thing was, Lambert wasn't even looking for a move, but agents were all over it, his just rang him up and said "now you're out of contract do you fancy PSV or Dortmund?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 9, 2020 Members Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: "Mad" thing was, Lambert wasn't even looking for a move, but agents were all over it, his just rang him up and said "now you're out of contract do you fancy PSV or Dortmund?" Didn’t he win the European cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said: Good documentary on BT sports about Jean Marc Bosman, presented by David Ginola One of the first players to take advantage was Paul Lambert, who ended up winning the CL at Dortmund A case which changed football and gave players opportunities they'd never would've had otherwise Apart from Jean Marc Bosman, fucked his career right up and led to booze and depression, as well as moving back in with his mum, after he spent five years in court not playing whilst trying to make his point 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Didn’t he win the European cup I think you could be right...... 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 10, 2020 Members Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, jeep said: I think you could be right...... 😁 Ignore me, I thought he won the old money European cup rather than the CL Edited December 10, 2020 by Rudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 10, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Rudy said: Didn’t he win the European cup? So much for the spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I recall the first big Bosman was McManaman to Madrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 10, 2020 Members Share Posted December 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: So much for the spoiler 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 10, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said: I recall the first big Bosman was McManaman to Madrid remember he fell out of favour at Madrid but on a nice fat contract and wasn't for shifting Football Focus interviewed him at his house, he's sat there in his shorts in the pool, in the blazing sun, and the interviewer said "with your chances massively limited at Madrid now, would you consider coming back to England", and he just looked around and went "not really" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 10, 2020 Members Share Posted December 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: remember he fell out of favour at Madrid but on a nice fat contract and wasn't for shifting Football Focus interviewed him at his house, he's sat there in his shorts in the pool, in the blazing sun, and the interviewer said "with your chances massively limited at Madrid now, would you consider coming back to England", and he just looked around and went "not really" Was Fletch with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: remember he fell out of favour at Madrid but on a nice fat contract and wasn't for shifting Football Focus interviewed him at his house, he's sat there in his shorts in the pool, in the blazing sun, and the interviewer said "with your chances massively limited at Madrid now, would you consider coming back to England", and he just looked around and went "not really" Scored in CL final didnt he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 10, 2020 Members Share Posted December 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, gonzo said: Scored in CL final didnt he? He did, Morientes Raul and himself against Valencia. First English man to win it with a non English club, Campo player centre halve that game as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 First big one for us was Taggart wasn't it - when he left to go to Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 10, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Scored in CL final didnt he? from Wiki Despite the Champions League final performance and having established himself as a valuable player in his first year in Madrid (including being listed alongside Redondo in Real Madrid's technical director Jose Martinez/Pirri's end of season official report as one of the two "untouchables" around whom the team should be built for the coming campaign), the arrival of a new club president in Florentino Pérez, closely followed by former Barcelona superstar midfielder Luís Figo in a club-record transfer, saw the club forced to sell several key players to reduce debt. Fernando Redondo, Nicolas Anelka, Christian Karembeu and McManaman were suddenly told they were surplus to requirements before the start of the 2000–01 season and were sold. When McManaman refused to leave unlike the others, manager Vicente del Bosque told McManaman that he had "little chance of playing this year", and in case he did not understand his position, the club also declined to give him a squad number for the forthcoming season. With the club already in debt, and having just spent another £37 million on Figo, the board were keen to cash in on McManaman and remove his $4.5 million salary from the wage bill. McManaman, however, with an iron-clad contract until 2004, declined to leave and instead stated his determination to win back his place in the team. to be fair he still chalked up 40 games for each of the next two seasons also from wiki Having won eight trophies and having played in 11 cup finals in four years as well as consistently making the semi-finals of the Champions League in each of his four years at the club, McManaman became the most successful English football export to ever play overseas (not just in Spain) in terms of trophies. In addition to honours, according to Forbes magazine in 2001, McManaman was listed as sixth on the list of the highest-earning footballers in the world, and is believed to have pocketed anywhere between an estimated €15 million (just under £10,250,000) to £14 million in his four years with Madrid.[233] In a tribute to McManaman, four years after he left the club, ex-coach Vicente del Bosque told Spanish newspaper AS Marca, that McManaman and Geremi were the two most important players in his squad, because "together they kept the whole team united". Del Bosque added, "I was very happy with Macca. He was a caballero, a gentleman, a stupendous guy; he always had a smile, he never complained, he was great, a leader. He related to everyone very well; he united people. He had a bad time [towards the end] with achilles pain, but every day he trained with the same attitude. He was exemplary ... and a good footballer too, very good. A fantastic player in every sense." McManaman is also listed as a club legend on the official Real Madrid website, with his legacy being that of being fondly remembered as "The versatile Englishman", and described as one who "in only four seasons, won the hearts of Madrid's followers. The mixture of his gentlemanly nature both on and off the pitch, combined with teamwork and quality made sure that this Englishman was one of the most loved players by the fans...McManaman's natural position was on the right, but during his time at Real Madrid he played in every midfield position. His ability to change position made him a very versatile player." fair play to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 He can also speak Spanish, not brilliantly, but has given interviews in Spanish which will enhance his popularity. Unlike Wales, Golf, Madrid boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 10, 2020 Members Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said: He can also speak Spanish, not brilliantly, but has given interviews in Spanish which will enhance his popularity. Unlike Wales, Golf, Madrid boy. Or David Moyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Rudy Posted December 12, 2020 Members Share Posted December 12, 2020 Right I don’t like VAR but the single most infuriating thing about it is keepers moving off their line before the ball is struck. “The defending goalkeeper must remain on the goal line, facing the kicker, between the goalposts, without touching the goalposts, crossbar or goal net, until the ball has been kicked.” “When the ball is kicked, the defending goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot touching, or in line with, the goal line.” Okie dokie. But the penalty taker only has to kick the ball forward, stuttering run up, fine, a little skip and a hop like Fernandes at United, fine, slowed down run ups are fine. But a keeper has to stay cemented to his line until it’s struck. How is that fair, a keeper has to jump forward to get strength behind his dive, so he’d have to start behind his line not move until the ball is struck jump forward but not too much and still guess the right way all the time the attacker is fannying about. There are more penalties since VAR but more stupid rules to prevent a keeper from saving them and microscopic analysis to make sure he’s fully on the line. It’s bollocks Petr Cech has nailed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Personally I think they should stop the striker fannying about with all this hop, skip and jump shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: Personally I think they should stop the striker fannying about with all this hop, skip and jump shite Agreed. The keeper is required to keep to strict rules, the taker should be also. It should, once you start, be a smooth continuous process. No wonder keepers move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted December 12, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Right I don’t like VAR but the single most infuriating thing about it is keepers moving off their line before the ball is struck. “The defending goalkeeper must remain on the goal line, facing the kicker, between the goalposts, without touching the goalposts, crossbar or goal net, until the ball has been kicked.” “When the ball is kicked, the defending goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot touching, or in line with, the goal line.” Okie dokie. But the penalty taker only has to kick the ball forward, stuttering run up, fine, a little skip and a hop like Fernandes at United, fine, slowed down run ups are fine. But a keeper has to stay cemented to his line until it’s struck. How is that fair, a keeper has to jump forward to get strength behind his dive, so he’d have to start behind his line not move until the ball is struck jump forward but not too much and still guess the right way all the time the attacker is fannying about. There are more penalties since VAR but more stupid rules to prevent a keeper from saving them and microscopic analysis to make sure he’s fully on the line. It’s bollocks Petr Cech has nailed it Yebbut, shouldn’t the odds be stacked towards the attacking team? Surely the reason for a penalty is penalise the defending team. The infringement has generally been committed to try and prevent a goal, so I’ve no sympathy for any goalie. Edited December 12, 2020 by Steejay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Zico Posted December 12, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, Steejay said: Yebbut, shouldn’t the odds be stacked towards the attacking team? Surely the reason for a penalty is penalise the defending team. The infringement has generally been committed to try and prevent a goal, so I’ve no sympathy for any goalie. What about penalty shoot outs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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