They need to try and attract some fans back for the remaining home fixtures. Most of them will be "nothing games" and arent going to attract fans at normal prices. We need to get some ticket deals on. Get our marketing team to push these deals and try and get people back.

Hopefully that will have a knock on effect on st sales for the season after

 

Whats everyone think??

They should do some market research, send some ticket office bods into town, to quiz the folk of Bolton about BWFC...

 

Only problem is 94% of answers would be something along the lines of...

 

'' Whoo is d Boltona Wenders? I am here for benneefits..''

 

Bit of a Daily Mail reactionary stylee post there, but in my defence I was forced to hang around on Bradshawgate for half an hour on Saturday lunchtime...F*ckin' hell, it's grim as f*ck in town these days, now the turd's had it's Christmas Glitter (the lights, trees, Winter Wonderland) dusted off again.

If you didnt have a season ticket, would you pay £56 to watch us play fulham and watford?

 

No.

 

I looked on Sat morn and adult prices where £25+ for Adults and £10 for lad.

 

Lads had no training for two weeks I may have got two for £20 from the club he plays for.

Even if you drop the prices to tuppence a game are the people who come on these tickets then going to pay full whack in the long run?

 

Hopefully ST sales are up next season as a result of the lenny feel good factor. But short term cheapo tickets won't help over time

I think the question is, whether there is anything feasibly the club can do that will have a positive effect short and or long term.

 

They aren't in a position to lose money so anything has to be break even or at least very minimal loss and has to be realistically within that margin. For example they aren't going to cut prices to £10 a ticket and no matter how many people claim they make the loss back on refreshment and bar bills, they don't.

 

I'm genuinely not sure what the club can realistically do. It could look at kids tickets prices I guess to try and attract more families in but even then what difference will that make overall? I doubt they can get close to filling the stadium other than taking a large hit in revenue that we all know they simply cannot do now.

 

Other clubs like Blackburn and Wigan have had cheaper season tickets, plenty of match deals etc and aren't pulling any bigger crowds. I'm not sure the club can actually do anything about it. We've had cheap deals in the past, it hasn't led to a swelling of the crowd. The only thing that will bring fans back long term is success on the pitch and promotion, I suspect.

I think the question is, whether there is anything feasibly the club can do that will have a positive effect short and or long term.

 

They aren't in a position to lose money so anything has to be break even or at least very minimal loss and has to be realistically within that margin. For example they aren't going to cut prices to £10 a ticket and no matter how many people claim they make the loss back on refreshment and bar bills, they don't.

 

I'm genuinely not sure what the club can realistically do. It could look at kids tickets prices I guess to try and attract more families in but even then what difference will that make overall? I doubt they can get close to filling the stadium other than taking a large hit in revenue that we all know they simply cannot do now.

 

Other clubs like Blackburn and Wigan have had cheaper season tickets, plenty of match deals etc and aren't pulling any bigger crowds. I'm not sure the club can actually do anything about it. We've had cheap deals in the past, it hasn't led to a swelling of the crowd. The only thing that will bring fans back long term is success on the pitch and promotion, I suspect.

I think the question is, whether there is anything feasibly the club can do that will have a positive effect short and or long term.

 

They aren't in a position to lose money so anything has to be break even or at least very minimal loss and has to be realistically within that margin. For example they aren't going to cut prices to £10 a ticket and no matter how many people claim they make the loss back on refreshment and bar bills, they don't.

 

I'm genuinely not sure what the club can realistically do. It could look at kids tickets prices I guess to try and attract more families in but even then what difference will that make overall? I doubt they can get close to filling the stadium other than taking a large hit in revenue that we all know they simply cannot do now.

 

Other clubs like Blackburn and Wigan have had cheaper season tickets, plenty of match deals etc and aren't pulling any bigger crowds. I'm not sure the club can actually do anything about it. We've had cheap deals in the past, it hasn't led to a swelling of the crowd. The only thing that will bring fans back long term is success on the pitch and promotion, I suspect.

Wouldn't disagree with much of that, but if we subtract season ticket holders from saturdays attendance, there were only a few thousand actually paying. If they tried, for example, half price tickets for Brighton, then who knows you might get double the number actually paying. That would result in no loss of revenue. At least if they tried, they have got something to come back with if it doesnt work

When i first got a season ticket, im sure it worked out that you got about 4 games free over a season?

 

You now save about 50% buying a season ticket vs purchasing tickets for every game

 

Have matchday prices gone too high??

Average attendance

 

1st season in champ 18034

2nd season in champ 16141

3rd season ???

If we follow that trend around 14k.

The worry is were playing some very attractive football and only lost twice at home since Lennon came is and attendances are still dropping, it really is piss poor. I think every game should be £20 maximum from now until the end of the season and a fiver for kids, lets get folk back to see if we can get them looking at a season ticket for next season.  

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I don't know if its been mentioned yet but I'm pretty sure you can only discount a certain number of league games a year.

 

So as nice as it sounds to give tickets cheap or discounted for the rest of the season, I don't think we're allowed!

The worry is were playing some very attractive football and only lost twice at home since Lennon came is and attendances are still dropping, it really is piss poor. I think every game should be £20 maximum from now until the end of the season and a fiver for kids, lets get folk back to see if we can get them looking at a season ticket for next season.  

 

Or we're bottom half, nearer to going down than anything else and have just managed 8 points from the last 8 games with 2 wins. If you're a pick your game sort, there isn't much to entice you right now, even with cheap tickets. We're at best playing meaningless games and although the football has been decent we're not exactly in any sort of form.

Average attendance

 

1st season in champ 18034

2nd season in champ 16141

3rd season ???

It's pretty much the exact trend that we followed last time we spent a few seasons in this division.

 

It's only going to get lower unless we are challenging for trophies next season. Lenny or no Lenny.

It's pretty much the exact trend that we followed last time we spent a few seasons in this division.

 

Finally the penny drops.

Finally the penny drops.

Are you insane?

 

It might be the same trend...doesn't make it any more acceptable.

 

You thinks its ok,I think it's dogshit. You can repeatedly tell me over and over again that you think it's ok,I will still think its dogshit.

 

We are no different from Wigan and Blackburn. Theirs is dogshit too.

Whether you think it's 'acceptable' or not is irrelevant. We're operating in an area with more professional football clubs than almost anywhere else in Europe, including one of the world's biggest. Support for any team in the area is bound to be limited for those reasons alone and that's before you start examining other factors. For some reason you seem to think that we should be an exception to this. 

Caring about crowds is a job for Newcastle, Sunderland and palace fans. Lets leave em to it. Bolton is a boozing town rather than a footy town. If there is a chance of a good piss up we will take numbers anywhere!

Have matchday prices gone too high??

 

 

we dont take enough through the gate to cover our costs

 

we either reduce our costs or increase our income

 

its that simple

 

matchday prices are about 30% higher than stockport and probably bury

 

if thats too high for folk, theyre going to have to get anew hobby

 

it seems plenty are but its not something bwfc alone can do owt about

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Disagree on that Cas watching Bolton without an s/t is dear. £56 for 2 games is a lot. Not even factoring if you are taking a littlun. I think people will just walk away. Not just from bwfc but football in general.

Disagree on that Cas watching Bolton without an s/t is dear. £56 for 2 games is a lot. Not even factoring if you are taking a littlun. I think people will just walk away. Not just from bwfc but football in general.

 

No its not tomski. we all know the bolton public have masses of disposable income.

 

I didn't go on Saturday as i am under the thumb but it is hard to be arsed with it without a season ticket. £7 to park, £28 ticket, £15 fuel,£30 on pies....its a dear do. it appears to have been a great game on saturday but there have been plenty of shit ones.

 

BWFC season tickets are great value especially on the 12 month plan. however paying match by match is  an expensive hobby.

 

Casino it is clear you are in a position where cost isn't a problem. Sadly for most of the BWFC support based without season tickets i would imagine it is not that simple.

 

We are doing a reasonable job for ST holders pricewise (a couple of sweeteners would be good like the LOV draw or mascot opportunities for kids etc) but pay as you go fans are not being encouraged. which is effectively what the problem is.

Disagree on that Cas watching Bolton without an s/t is dear. £56 for 2 games is a lot. Not even factoring if you are taking a littlun. I think people will just walk away. Not just from bwfc but football in general.

 

dunno what you're disagreeing with

 

i agree footballs not cheap

 

but i can see why its not cheap

 

while its 20 quid for non league stuff, i dunno what we're supposed to do

 

if cutting the prices by a third for everybody filled the ground, lets do it

 

but it wont

 

and for anybody shouting about the current entertainment value, wins will always get more folk in than entertainment

 

Casino it is clear you are in a position where cost isn't a problem.

 

 

 

dont talk out of your rather large arse

 

£7 to park, £28 ticket, £15 fuel, £30 on pies

 

bullshit

 

cept the pie spend obvs

No way would I pay £28 to watch second tier football, £15 fair price, £20 at a push and I am not a skinflint

I think actually the average crowds in the three Championship seasons in the late 1990s were something like

 

98/9: 18000

99/00: 14,000

00/01: 16,000

 

The last of those was a promotion season. But the point is that the decline from season one to season two this time around hasn't quite been as steep and we're on 15,500 this season so far. Reckon that's a slightly positive impact of 11 years in the Premiership on our support base.

No way would I pay £28 to watch second tier football, £15 fair price, £20 at a push and I am not a skinflint

 

 

what makes 15 quid fair?

 

its about what im spending, fwiw

 

in fact, 3 of us get in for under 25 quid a game

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