Moderators Carlos Posted February 11, 2015 Moderators Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Wooooaaaahhhhhh we haven't got a pot to piss in, £60 K is a top player for a month! Edited February 11, 2015 by Carlos
Big E Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 You want me to pay top dollar and be surrounded by thousands of freeloaders? Fuck that. Hark him on a peasant ticket
Bigtoe Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Hark him on a peasant ticket When he lent me his ticket i hadnt realised i had to be wheeled in with someone and plonked at the front of WSL.
Mounts Kipper Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Wooooaaaahhhhhh we haven't got a pot to piss in, £60 K is a top player for a month! Get some one to sponsor it shouldn't be to difficult attracting money/ goodwill for an event to benefit kids and the community.
Sweep Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Who's to say some kids wouldn't become lifelong fans? Once a season could be worth it, maybe a kids of Bolton sponsored event? I would think the coaches would be £250 quid each = 62k. Surely 200 x £250 = £50K Anyway, I would have thought the hire of a coach for the day (and as the coach firm wouldn't be able to use the coach for anything else that day, so a day rate would be charged) would be closer to £450/£500 for the day, so it starts getting expensive. With regards to ticket prices, one thing that dawned on me was.....if Premier League teams charged £1 a match and had full grounds every game (which most already do at c£40 per ticket anyway) what happens when they get relegated? - your ST would have to go up massively, surely the attendance drop off would be absolutely colossal and possibly catastrophic. You could feasibly be used to paying £19 per ticket (or £50 or £100 or whatever low price people deem as acceptable) for 10+ years and the PL, and then upon relegation see a price hike to £300/£400 per year. I'm sure fans (and I don't mean just ours) would love to pay loads more to see an inferior product. I think that Bolton have their prices about right. Our problem isn't what we charge, it's the fact that we have a very poor support base, and this has been shown/proved on more than one occasion.
Moderators Horwich Posted February 12, 2015 Author Moderators Posted February 12, 2015 Prices are fine for ST holders. Prices to attract fans in end of season games were we having nothing to play for are not attractive
stevieb Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 If attracting nufans means we end up with the big game wankers showing up and delaying the queue for a pint and ruining the carefully cultivated ambience of the ESLSC then iamout!
Moderators Horwich Posted February 12, 2015 Author Moderators Posted February 12, 2015 If ST holders cant be bothered turning up for games they have paid for, we have no chance attracting others at £25 a pop
L/H White Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 The biggest asset the club have at the minute is Lennon. If the club launches something to get attendances up with discounted tickets I reckon Lenny fronting the campaign will have most of us season ticket holders supporting it. Don't forget their not coming back until the, IRA loving Ginger cunt has gone.
Mounts Kipper Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Surely 200 x £250 = £50K Anyway, I would have thought the hire of a coach for the day (and as the coach firm wouldn't be able to use the coach for anything else that day, so a day rate would be charged) would be closer to £450/£500 for the day, so it starts getting expensive. With regards to ticket prices, one thing that dawned on me was.....if Premier League teams charged £1 a match and had full grounds every game (which most already do at c£40 per ticket anyway) what happens when they get relegated? - your ST would have to go up massively, surely the attendance drop off would be absolutely colossal and possibly catastrophic. You could feasibly be used to paying £19 per ticket (or £50 or £100 or whatever low price people deem as acceptable) for 10+ years and the PL, and then upon relegation see a price hike to £300/£400 per year. I'm sure fans (and I don't mean just ours) would love to pay loads more to see an inferior product. I think that Bolton have their prices about right. Our problem isn't what we charge, it's the fact that we have a very poor support base, and this has been shown/proved on more than one occasion. My calculator on my iPhone has a serious glitch, the big worry is I've been using it for quotes recently could be losing fortunes. ????
Big E Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 One thing about this thread is a lot of people complaining about big game visitors are the same people not buying a full price adult ticket despite technically needing one to obtain entry.
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 12, 2015 Site Supporter Posted February 12, 2015 Surely 200 x £250 = £50K Anyway, I would have thought the hire of a coach for the day (and as the coach firm wouldn't be able to use the coach for anything else that day, so a day rate would be charged) would be closer to £450/£500 for the day, so it starts getting expensive. With regards to ticket prices, one thing that dawned on me was.....if Premier League teams charged £1 a match and had full grounds every game (which most already do at c£40 per ticket anyway) what happens when they get relegated? - your ST would have to go up massively, surely the attendance drop off would be absolutely colossal and possibly catastrophic. You could feasibly be used to paying £19 per ticket (or £50 or £100 or whatever low price people deem as acceptable) for 10+ years and the PL, and then upon relegation see a price hike to £300/£400 per year. I'm sure fans (and I don't mean just ours) would love to pay loads more to see an inferior product. I think that Bolton have their prices about right. Our problem isn't what we charge, it's the fact that we have a very poor support base, and this has been shown/proved on more than one occasion. A very poor support base; if this is in the financial sense then I'd agree. I lost interest in the megson era, big style. First time ever, had been a season ticket holder fo more than 20 years, but started to fall out with football in general. There are plenty in my street alone in the same bracket. Young un is now older and I'm getting the bug back. Trouble is £45 for the two of us to see the wolves match is a dear do. Were still feeling the effects of a recession in this town. A promotion in schools, kids bring a parent for a small fee. Not only enticing a few of the next generation but might get some of the older ones back in. Doesn't matter if they dont/cant afford to come every week. Costs the club nothing to give a few tickets away for seats that would otherwise remain empty
Big E Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) A very poor support base; if this is in the financial sense then I'd agree. This is a good point. not taking the piss at all here but there is a much larger amount of fans in and around Bolton on the "lower end" of pay scales. sadly sacrifices need to be made. if it is the difference between a full family day out and going to the match i know which i would pick. this doesn't make you less of a fan by any means just means your priorities / circumstances are different Edited February 12, 2015 by Big E
Guest Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 The price argument is always difficult because what seems a fair price if you are just buying one ticket for yourself to go with your mates becomes entirely different if you are instead taking your two kids along with you to the match. And usually in the latter scenario disposable income is more precious. I mean there are probably about 12,000 fans who go to most league home games come what may. But it is the rest of the people who go to the odd game here and there that the club need to target. But it is tricky because you're not comparing a single group of people. For plenty of those people cost won't be an issue and it will just be the ballache of going out in the cold and getting to the ground. Depends where people live how they get there etc. For others it will be that they see the odd game of football in the same way as they go and see the odd film at the cinema. You could charge a quid a game and after the initial novelty they won't come back. Then there are people who genuinely would come if prices were low enough. But there won't necessarily be enough of those people to reduce cost and maintain income. Which surely the club have to do. I'm always a bit surprised by the low attendances at Bolton given that there is a big local population and whilst obviously there are a lot of clubs in the area, I always think we should be able to attract a few more on a regular basis. As much as I don't like the trek to Horwich for a game, the ground is in an ideal location for getting people from outside of the immediate town to go and really I'd have thought far better situated than many North West grounds. You can park right at the ground for a fee, or for free in other places not too far away and there is stuff to do there prior or after the game. I'm thinking parents with kids here. I'd have thought it had lots going for it, so I'm always a bit surprised that there aren't a few more on. Perhaps premiership football is the only real attraction to those sorts of people now?
Mounts Kipper Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Maybe the club should look at pricing blocks of games as a ticket deal preseason for those who can't do every game but might do say 10 games, these games could be any game and at a high price per game than season tickets but less than individual game by game purchase also they could pay monthly to keep costs low, so say 10 games in east lower for £200 and flexibility to chose any 10 league games.
davidjack Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Another good idea. We're full of em on here. Send em in!
Ani Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 The price argument is always difficult because what seems a fair price if you are just buying one ticket for yourself to go with your mates becomes entirely different if you are instead taking your two kids along with you to the match. And usually in the latter scenario disposable income is more precious. I mean there are probably about 12,000 fans who go to most league home games come what may. But it is the rest of the people who go to the odd game here and there that the club need to target. But it is tricky because you're not comparing a single group of people. For plenty of those people cost won't be an issue and it will just be the ballache of going out in the cold and getting to the ground. Depends where people live how they get there etc. For others it will be that they see the odd game of football in the same way as they go and see the odd film at the cinema. You could charge a quid a game and after the initial novelty they won't come back. Then there are people who genuinely would come if prices were low enough. But there won't necessarily be enough of those people to reduce cost and maintain income. Which surely the club have to do. I'm always a bit surprised by the low attendances at Bolton given that there is a big local population and whilst obviously there are a lot of clubs in the area, I always think we should be able to attract a few more on a regular basis. As much as I don't like the trek to Horwich for a game, the ground is in an ideal location for getting people from outside of the immediate town to go and really I'd have thought far better situated than many North West grounds. You can park right at the ground for a fee, or for free in other places not too far away and there is stuff to do there prior or after the game. I'm thinking parents with kids here. I'd have thought it had lots going for it, so I'm always a bit surprised that there aren't a few more on. Perhaps premiership football is the only real attraction to those sorts of people now? If you think gets to a Friday, bloke finishes work gets home and decides what to at the weekend, missus is off shopping he has a young kid, say 10 years to entertain, 'lets go the match tomorrow' they seem to be doing alright at moment, watched the Liverpool game so might enjoy that. Kid likes the idea and wants to bring a mate, bloke rings the club and it is best part of £50 for tickets then he thinks by time we have a drink and a pie/burger/hotdog it will be over £50......fuck it lets go to the cinema instead, will be not much less but it will be warm and you never know what match will like, kids could get bored. OR Kid comes home from schoo 'dad this weekend we can get some tickets for football it is only £5 for me and my mate and if you could you get in for £10, i enjoyed the game on telly other night (i know a ten year should have been in bed !) can we go ...fuck it lets go, gets me out of going shopping with your mum. It is pretty simple as 'fans' people on here will pay more than others to watch a game the 12,000 you mention go along and price is not a massive factor for them as a lot have season tickets so match day price is not relevant, but the floating voter it is , if you can get them coming in and then a few catch the bug and the 12,000 diehard become 14,000 and you start getting somewhere. I pay about £50/60 a month for 1 adult, 2 junior and 1 car park pass, that is great value but honestly I would hardly ever go to a game if it was £25 every week for me to get in, pretty sure I am one of the diehards , Junior would hate if we stopped going so we wont so getting kids into it is important as it keeps the parent going as well Drop some prices get a few hooked and then grow from there, if drug dealers in our schools can do it why not the club ?
Moderators Horwich Posted February 12, 2015 Author Moderators Posted February 12, 2015 It would be good to see the club be proactive regarding ticket sales
COYW Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I'm always a bit surprised by the low attendances at Bolton given that there is a big local population and whilst obviously there are a lot of clubs in the area, I always think we should be able to attract a few more on a regular basis. 'Low attendances' compared to who? Our attendances are better than any other club in the immediate area other than Utd and City. There are not just a 'lot of clubs in the area', we have one of the biggest clubs in the world on our doorstep and one of the richest. Add up all the trophies they've won between them in the last 50 years and then compare it to what we've won in the same period.
Moderators Horwich Posted February 12, 2015 Author Moderators Posted February 12, 2015 Just looking at my emails off the club. They seem to email everyone on a friday. Last fridays email promoted the Fulham game and also mentioned Watford. The next time watford will be mentioned will be tomorrow. Now I know we dont want to spam people, but should we not be emailing again sometime before the friday before the watford game? Two games in a week for a dad and lad and you arent getting much change from £100, yet there have been around 27000 empty seats for these two games
Guest Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 'Low attendances' compared to who? Our attendances are better than any other club in the immediate area other than Utd and City. There are not just a 'lot of clubs in the area', we have one of the biggest clubs in the world on our doorstep and one of the richest. Add up all the trophies they've won between them in the last 50 years and then compare it to what we've won in the same period. Not necessarily a comparison. Just something I've always thought. Outside of the big City clubs I'd think we'd attract a few more casuals from around the area due to the relative success we've had but also the physical location of the ground. Maybe it just doesn't work like that. Perhaps nobody who isn't a real Bolton fan would ever want to go to watch us. I don't know. Possibly just prices.
COYW Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Outside of the big City clubs I'd think we'd attract a few more casuals from around the area due to the relative success we've had but also the physical location of the ground. Maybe it just doesn't work like that. Perhaps nobody who isn't a real Bolton fan would ever want to go to watch us. We do attract casual supporters for the big games which is why we took 9,000 to Anfield as a Third Division club when our average home attendances weren't much more than that. Casual supporters aren't going to go to a mid-week game against Fulham.
Members burnden Posted February 12, 2015 Members Posted February 12, 2015 Just looking at my emails off the club. They seem to email everyone on a friday. Last fridays email promoted the Fulham game and also mentioned Watford. The next time watford will be mentioned will be tomorrow. Now I know we dont want to spam people, but should we not be emailing again sometime before the friday before the watford game? Two games in a week for a dad and lad and you arent getting much change from £100, yet there have been around 27000 empty seats for these two games I am a ST holder but never get any mail from the club apart from confirmations when i buy away tickets.
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