gonzo Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pablo said: Too many so called England fans want us to fail so they can say "I told you so" - How is that for self importance ffs!! Wanting misery, so you can smile to yourself....as all everyone else is gutted. Its not enough to win a game....it has to be nailed on perfect in every aspect...even managers clothes...other teams NOT allowed to creat chances or have an attack. If thats how those people measure success....then they wont have ever ever see any success in football team they support, and wont ever enjoy it. Genuinely think these people never actually watch full games of football on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: Genuinely think these people never actually watch full games of football on a regular basis. I just dont get it. Not wanting england to win becasue you dont like the managers look or way he speaks. Picking on little aspects of previous games we won....its madness. When you win a Cup or league, do you go back and moan about previous rounds/games that you scraped through !?!?! No becuase thats football, other teams can play well, its allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pablo said: I just dont get it. Not wanting england to win becasue you dont like the managers look or way he speaks. Picking on little aspects of previous games we won....its madness. When you win a Cup or league, do you go back and moan about previous rounds/games that you scraped through !?!?! No becuase thats football, other teams can play well, its allowed. Saw a post from journo on twitter this morning moaning that Maddison hasn’t been given minutes when we were 3-0 up vs both Wales and Senegal and how it’s a disgrace and would dent his confidence etc. Imagine that being the thing you take out if last night. Like you say though, some will always have the strongest will to say “I told you so”, even above success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Eddie said: Saw a post from journo on twitter this morning moaning that Maddison hasn’t been given minutes when we were 3-0 up vs both Wales and Senegal and how it’s a disgrace and would dent his confidence etc. Imagine that being the thing you take out if last night. Like you say though, some will always have the strongest will to say “I told you so”, even above success. Unreal, its crazy they do this. The new ones are written already for France too, if we dare to win the game....."France's aging attack"...."France injury hit squad"......"Kante-less France"...... Its what they and many the anti-england little clubber gammon will go with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, DazBob said: Olivier Giroud. Everyone in the world seems to say he's underrated. At what point does a player become rated? Surely if everyone thinks he's underrated then he can't be underrated? I don't think he's that good He's only France's top scorer because Benezema was exiled for so long He's only starting this World Cup because Benezema is injured He'll probably bag a couple on Sunday and win the golden boot But he's not that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Zico said: I don't think he's that good He's only France's top scorer because Benezema was exiled for so long He's only starting this World Cup because Benezema is injured He'll probably bag a couple on Sunday and win the golden boot But he's not that good You mean, you don't like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, Pablo said: You mean, you don't like him. not at all, I guess despite his impressive goal scoring record at Arsenal, he's never struck me as a great player like Benezma or Henry, more a bench warmer, but I'm sure he's started most of the games he's played in looking at 2018, played every game at the WC but didn't score, so there's more to his game it would seem but no, he's obviously good, but not a great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2022 dunno if im one of pablos targets, but if i am, you can get fucked i have no problem with knees, southgate, rainbows, i just think we arent very good to watch and i have different needs to be satisfied when im watching england i want to see things and think, thats fucking brilliant with bw, i dont give a shit, a wins always enough england need to give me more tbh, if we are not in it, i doubt ill watch the final, so maybe im just not that bothered about wider football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted December 5, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Pablo said: Too many so called England fans want us to fail so they can say "I told you so" - How is that for self importance ffs!! Wanting misery, so you can smile to yourself....as everyone else is gutted. Its not enough to win a game....it has to be nailed on perfect in every aspect...even managers clothes...other teams NOT allowed to create chances or have an attack. If thats how those people measure success....then they wont have ever ever see any success in football team they support, and wont ever enjoy it. Exactly what we were talking about pal on Friday. Good to see you 👍 Loved it last night. Cant wait for Saturday. Shrewsbury then Cricket Club 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 5, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Zico said: I don't think he's that good He's only France's top scorer because Benezema was exiled for so long He's only starting this World Cup because Benezema is injured He'll probably bag a couple on Sunday and win the golden boot But he's not that good Heard that and it doesn't stack up. Whether Benzema would have played more than him doesn't matter- he's still scored the goals when he's played. If he hadn't, someone else would have been playing. He's a decent player and finisher and is capable of punishing us. That said, I see KM as the danger- his pace will be problematic, and that may open the door for the likes of Giroud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, Casino said: dunno if im one of pablos targets, but if i am, you can get fucked i have no problem with knees, southgate, rainbows, i just think we arent very good to watch and i have different needs to be satisfied when im watching england i want to see things and think, thats fucking brilliant with bw, i dont give a shit, a wins always enough england need to give me more tbh, if we are not in it, i doubt ill watch the final, so maybe im just not that bothered about wider football you must be bored to tears going to the reebok everyweek then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, L/H White said: you must be bored to tears going to the reebok everyweek then no, not least cos you are nowhere near me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Casino said: no, not least cos you are nowhere near me seen someone get chucked out of the oap section friday night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Heard that and it doesn't stack up. Whether Benzema would have played more than him doesn't matter- he's still scored the goals when he's played. If he hadn't, someone else would have been playing. He's a decent player and finisher and is capable of punishing us. That said, I see KM as the danger- his pace will be problematic, and that may open the door for the likes of Giroud. yeah I agree with that but whilst he's the their all time top scorer, I think there's a lot more far better players with far more honours etc who haven't scored as many as him in France's top 10/20 all time scorers list so I think that is maybe why he's seen as underrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Pablo said: Unreal, its crazy they do this. The new ones are written already for France too, if we dare to win the game....."France's aging attack"...."France injury hit squad"......"Kante-less France"...... Its what they and many the anti-england little clubber gammon will go with. I am not sure it only England. There are a few Bolton fans who do not like Evatt and seem happiest when we lose. There were a lot who hated Parky and again seemed happiest when we lost. Anything good is despite the manager anything bad is down to them alone. There is a line that most stay the right side of and are happy to be proved wrong. Nought wrong with criticising the team but when have reached a WC quarter final as top scorers in the competition you would think 'boring' and 'negative' would not be mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ani said: I am not sure it only England. There are a few Bolton fans who do not like Evatt and seem happiest when we lose. There were a lot who hated Parky and again seemed happiest when we lost. Anything good is despite the manager anything bad is down to them alone. There is a line that most stay the right side of and are happy to be proved wrong. Nought wrong with criticising the team but when have reached a WC quarter final as top scorers in the competition you would think 'boring' and 'negative' would not be mentioned. 30 years ago we’d have been singing and dancing ont town hall square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Zico said: I don't think he's that good He's only France's top scorer because Benezema was exiled for so long He's only starting this World Cup because Benezema is injured He'll probably bag a couple on Sunday and win the golden boot But he's not that good Do you think they'll drop him for the game on Saturday if he has a game on Sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Good start for Japan, but they should have taken one of those chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Brilliant to watch Japan but how they haven't scored yet is beyond me. Playing Modric etc off the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Finally! Boy have they earned it. Glasgow's top team striker buries it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Good side these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2022 like their style press hard and pass quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Good side these Surprised Maeda started up front - he's like Dion, dropping deep, working hard but not really an out and out striker. Cautious from Japan IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 5, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2022 Great to watch, but their achilles heel is their central defenders. As Spain showed, they can be undone by quality crosses and a centre forward who is a good header of the ball. Whether Croatia can do that, I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Great to watch, but their achilles heel is their central defenders. As Spain showed, they can be undone by quality crosses and a centre forward who is a good header of the ball. Whether Croatia can do that, I'm not sure. Well Croatia certainly have to change something and that looks like their best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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