L/H White Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I'm looking forward to it now 4 games a day, what's not to like I'll have forgot where it's hosted after the first few games It's coming home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted November 15, 2022 Members Share Posted November 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Marc505 said: I really didn't get what they were trying to achieve with it. It barely showed any match action, virtually zero from games not involving England and for what? To say football was cured afterwards? Same here. It was just about hooliganism and how hooliganism was all Thatcher's fault. The fact it was based around Italia '90 seemed incidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, DazBob said: Same here. It was just about hooliganism and how hooliganism was all Thatcher's fault. The fact it was based around Italia '90 seemed incidental. It's always struck me as odd as those that defend her the most where her vilified in their prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, DazBob said: Same here. It was just about hooliganism and how hooliganism was all Thatcher's fault. The fact it was based around Italia '90 seemed incidental. Like Charloi and Marsellie ten years later never happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Starts this week doesn't it. Saw panini stickers albums on the counter for free at coop today. Too late pal, I've usually spent £900 and part of a 2000 page thread on wanderersways by now. Absolute shit show this world Cup. Proper shite. We'll probably win it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, gonzo said: Like Charloi and Marsellie ten years later never happened Difference is at the time the prime minister said basically all football fans are criminals. Basically...all working class men are thugs, it is something culturally we've never really got beyond until....Capitalism saved everyone with the Premiership and the ongoing gentrification of the national game, to the point local kids can't afford to watch matches and it's all older blokes and families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Difference is at the time the prime minister said basically all football fans are criminals. Basically...all working class men are thugs, it is something culturally we've never really got beyond until....Capitalism saved everyone with the Premiership and the ongoing gentrification of the national game, to the point local kids can't afford to watch matches and it's all older blokes and families. Colin Moynihan was a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Traf said: Colin Moynihan was a cunt. Yes, basically tag anyone who watches football. It's was a total demonisation of the working class, work, and also if you cant you are lazy, and if you want to watch your local team you are then a violent thug. Old school cultural wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, DazBob said: Same here. It was just about hooliganism and how hooliganism was all Thatcher's fault. The fact it was based around Italia '90 seemed incidental. Seems such an easy and lazy thing to say that a few results against Belgium and Cameroon and narrowly losing to Germany somehow changed the face of football. A lot more interest and hangers on yeah, but it didn't stop hooliganism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 52 minutes ago, Traf said: Colin Moynihan was a cunt. Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 https://twitter.com/PhilippeAuclair/status/1592614168389386241?t=NivbRWR-WwwzabEQ7y4pxA&s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 16, 2022 Members Share Posted November 16, 2022 17 hours ago, London Wanderer said: Congratulations on travelling so far👍 That makes your opinion far more important then. Southgate listened to what his players were saying and supported them. The majority of England fans don't and never had a problem with that. Especially after the Euros final when it was a clear a problem (albeit from a minority) still existed. He was just doing what any decent boss would do. The only issue was that we didn't push on after our first goal against Italy. That's what bothered most England fans - not the rainbow laces, not the anti-racism and not the exaggerated drama queen nonsense about some woke infiltration of football. get a grip pal - you've had a great life so far and nobody wants to die a bitter old man 💗 St. George needs you. Fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 16, 2022 Members Share Posted November 16, 2022 17 hours ago, Traf said: P, come on, man. No matter what's wrong with the game/the FA/the management/society etc etc, you've got to want England to win, surely? I'd rather wait 'til 2026 if that's OK? Eddie Howe just getting on with the job in hand instead of campaigning over every social issue imaginable. Besides that, I will be there! If however, England do win it this time around (my thoughts best chance Brazil, second Argentina, third France) I would take satisfaction in the boost it would give the country whether social, economic or the feeling of well being (I won't use the word pride as it is another one which has been hijacked). I just don't want faux outraged political opportunists being acclaimed as heroes. it would probably mean even more of their nauseating bullshit for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 16, 2022 Members Share Posted November 16, 2022 15 hours ago, Wanderlust said: The real hypocrisy is that Brits pontificate about human rights and social values when our own soldiers are found guilty of torturing and murdering POWs and racism, sexism and homophobia are rife in the UK. And as for taking "dodgy money" the UK spreads it's legs for anyone with 3 of our 17 protectorates in the world top ten of offshore tax havens and f*** all checks on companies that want to register in London like the oligarchs do. That on top of hundreds of years of exploiting people and ripping off the resources of nations around the world. And we think we have the right to criticise Qatar? F*** off!0 FFS, another fucking Corbynite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 16, 2022 Members Share Posted November 16, 2022 13 hours ago, DazBob said: So none of us can have a bad opinion on a country where sex outside of marriage can mean being flogged/stoned/put into prison and doing gay stuff can lead to a prison sentence? We can't have a bad opinion because "we are not squeeky clean". Really? I am curious about the 'we'. I hope he's not another of these statue toppling imbeciles attaching blame to people today for events that happened hundreds of years ago? No doubt he is guilt ridden about the relatively luxurious lifestyle he leads compared to the downtrodden and starving. Che Guevara tee shirt and a beret with a red star on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 16, 2022 Members Share Posted November 16, 2022 6 hours ago, L/H White said: I'm looking forward to it now 4 games a day, what's not to like I'll have forgot where it's hosted after the first few games It's coming home Coming round to just enjoying a feast of football now so agree with your first three points R. I think the last one is overly optimistic. Quarter finals most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: I'd rather wait 'til 2026 if that's OK? Eddie Howe just getting on with the job in hand instead of campaigning over every social issue imaginable. Besides that, I will be there! If however, England do win it this time around (my thoughts best chance Brazil, second Argentina, third France) I would take satisfaction in the boost it would give the country whether social, economic or the feeling of well being (I won't use the word pride as it is another one which has been hijacked). I just don't want faux outraged political opportunists being acclaimed as heroes. it would probably mean even more of their nauseating bullshit for a while. And you don't think everything's going to be even more woke by the time 2026 comes around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Traf said: And you don't think everything's going to be even more woke by the time 2026 comes around? Be Emma Hayes in charge with Declan Rice captain wearing make up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Be Emma Hayes in charge with Declan Rice captain wearing make up. Calvert-Lewin upfront in a skirt, Mount & James holding hands as they walk out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Not in Crawley Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Aussie Paul is proper odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Steejay said: Wait until they're getting battered by the other set of England fans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Mad to think Eddie Howe wouldn't be expected to be just as "woke" as the current guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Mad to think Eddie Howe wouldn't be expected to be just as "woke" as the current guy. Gives off Terry Butcher and Vinnie Jones vibes if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottm_Wanderer Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Me : "I'm not watching the world cup " Wife : " why ? You love football " Me : " Its a crap country, poor human rights, 1000s died building the stadiums " Wife : " you love football, what is you not watching it going to achieve , no one's bothered " Me : "principals " Wife: "just watch it , don't be stupid " So on the wife's advice I will watch. As for the football , let's hope the beautiful game wins , regardless of who lifts the trophy . Brasil or Argentina maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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