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Wanderers Ways. Neil Thompson 1961-2021

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I find this story absolutely staggering. Up there with the bank scandals.

 

" VW is rumored to be facing $18 billion in fines. HSBC's money laundering schemes for violent cartels resulted in only a $1.9 billion fine."

 

Nine times worse. Them AGW-ers have a good scam going on.

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You're taking the piss, right?

 

 

He isn't! Rumoured to be spread across their entire group of companies including the motorcycle and truck builders.

 

Marques such as:- Bentley, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Ducati, MAN, Scania, Porsche, Skoda etc. If this technology has been spread around the group, this could be bigger than gigantic.

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All reinforcing of course the ever more obvious reality that the amount of man-made Co2 in the atmosphere doesn't make a fraction of the difference to the climate than has been previously assumed. The greens have been crowing for some years now about how Co2 emissions are down due to Obama's tough regulations for the car industries and the advent of greener technologies. But now we see the VW fraud and let's assume it isn't limited to them - so Co2 should still be rising. The primary effect of which is that the now 19 year flat-lining of global temperatures is even more profound. There is more Co2 up there than assumed and the climate is not responding in the way Al Gore tells you it should be. Funny old thing eh?

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All reinforcing of course the ever more obvious reality that the amount of man-made Co2 in the atmosphere doesn't make a fraction of the difference to the climate than has been previously assumed. The greens have been crowing for some years now about how Co2 emissions are down due to Obama's tough regulations for the car industries and the advent of greener technologies. But now we see the VW fraud and let's assume it isn't limited to them - so Co2 should still be rising. The primary effect of which is that the now 19 year flat-lining of global temperatures is even more profound. There is more Co2 up there than assumed and the climate is not responding in the way Al Gore tells you it should be. Funny old thing eh?

The fraud is about NOx emissions not CO2 though isn't it? 

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Nope!!! As Bolty says it's rumoured to spread across the whole VW group and the software that they used is seemingly known about by other manufacturers as well 

 

 

Whooosh

 

Vw = Audi

 

Audi = VW

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Whooosh

 

Vw = Audi

 

Audi = VW

 

OK. Fair enough. I'd got that bit. The original report applied only to VW branded cars with the exception of the Audi A3. What I meant was that I can see it spreading across the other marques/brands and other countries. I just couldn't be arsed typing it all out. Which I've just done now. Lazy knob!! Me, not you!!

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2 parts Co2 molecules created by every 4 parts molecules of NOx. So sort of. 

NOx can't create CO2 though except through the action of a catalytic convertor; thus the more NOx you get shut of maybe the more CO2 is produced - but if you're not getting shut of it you're not producing? The CO2 output would be measured and would be the same irrespective of how inaccurate the NOx reading was? The issue would only arise if measured CO2 outputs were fiddled. Once put into the atmosphere NOx cannot form CO2

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