14 Million In Poverty In The Uk

[mickbrown]

The JRF foundation don't raise money from bucket shaking so Swanny's comment about them pushing an agenda was absolute bollox.

[only1swanny]

Every business has to push their agenda... otherwise they wouldn't be around too long..

[Cheese]

The JRF foundation don't raise money from bucket shaking so Swanny's comment about them pushing an agenda was absolute bollox.

 

Maybe so, but a few people here are adamant that JRF are corrupt, and it would be nice if one of them explained why. All we've got so far is "their research doesn't match with what I believe".

[Smiffs]

Cancer touches so many people whereas, say, starving Eskimos doesn't.

 

Comparing the two is just daft.

 

Someone somewhere has those poor Eskimos close to their heart.

 

I couldn't care a fuck. But I'd give to kids charities. Some give to animals. Some give to battered wimmin.

 

Point being the individual chooses who to give to which is generally something close to their moral compass. One thing is a catagoric fact is that each and every charity is competing for your attention and cash, so to think they wouldn't use a few wonky tactics now and again is a bit naive.

[mickbrown]

Every business has to push their agenda... otherwise they wouldn't be around too long..

 

You're really not getting this are you?

[Cheese]

Cancer touches so many people whereas, say, starving Eskimos doesn't.

 

Comparing the two is just daft.

 

Someone somewhere has those poor Eskimos close to their heart.

 

I couldn't care a fuck. But I'd give to kids charities. Some give to animals. Some give to battered wimmin.

 

Point being the individual chooses who to give to which is generally something close to their moral compass. One thing is a catagoric fact is that each and every charity is competing for your attention and cash, so to think they wouldn't use a few wonky tactics now and again is a bit naive.

 

You are still avoiding the question. What makes this charity more corrupt than others? Is it merely that you don't agree with/like what their research says, or do you have another reason to believe they are lying?

Edited October 14, 2015 by Cheese

[Smiffs]

Mick, don't you agree that the headline of "14 million are in poverty" is misleading?

 

Read into a few of the paragraphs and they generate the 14 million bracket from three broad very broad catagories. They might as well add 'and kids wearing shit trainers and fat folk eating pound pasties'.

 

The same report would not be anywhere near as alarmist if they just said 500000 kids don't eat properly due to family poverty even though it's 500000 too many.

 

For me it lost all credibility when they included households with "low work intensity"

[Casino]

cheese

 

wasn't the point that they have used a definition of poverty that is way out of line with most folks understanding of the word and used it to create a distorted truth

Edited October 14, 2015 by Casino

[no balls]

I believe the Rowntree foundation have given a quarter of million to CAGE. I wouldn't give those fuckers the steam off my dog's shit.

[Smiffs]

You are still avoiding the question. What makes this charity more corrupt than others? Is it merely that you don't agree with/like what their research says, or do you have another reason to believe they are lying?

Are you talking to me or swanny? Where did I say they were corrupt? Show me. Please.

[mickbrown]

Mick, don't you agree that the headline of "14 million are in poverty" is misleading?

 

Read into a few of the paragraphs and they generate the 14 million bracket from three broad very broad catagories. They might as well add 'and kids wearing shit trainers and fat folk eating pound pasties'.

 

The same report would not be anywhere near as alarmist if they just said 500000 kids don't eat properly due to family poverty even though it's 500000 too many.

 

For me it lost all credibility when they included households with "low work intensity"

 

Yep, course it is but they aren't a charity in the sense that they rely on folk spunking up money based on whatever hard luck story they wish to peddle. Because of the way they are funded they could have said poverty didn't exist at all - it would have no effect on their income.

[only1swanny]

I don't recall saying they were corrupt either...

 

Cheese in 1 + 1 = 3 shocker...

[Maggie Tate]

Maybe so, but a few people here are adamant that JRF are corrupt, and it would be nice if one of them explained why. All we've got so far is "their research doesn't match with what I believe".

 

Not one person has said they are corrupt. They have made the obvious point that it is in the interests of charities, advocacy groups and thinktanks alike to over-emphasise the problem with whatever it is they are interested in in order to justify their existence, to the extent, as in this case, to re-define the meaning of the word poverty.

 

The money it has given to CAGE and Irish and Islamic terrorists is another matter. Perhaps thy should have spent the money on relieving someone's poverty.

[smeghead83]

So come on, 5 pages in and we've not had a poverty role call. I'm in

[bgoefc]

I believe the Rowntree foundation have given a quarter of million to CAGE. I wouldn't give those fuckers the steam off my dog's shit.

 

Yes, and once this was highlighted they dug themselves a bigger hole by trying to justify it. Eventually they were shamed into withdrawing that funding

[mickbrown]

I don't recall saying they were corrupt either...

 

Cheese in 1 + 1 = 3 shocker...

You still haven't took the time to read up have you? If you did you reaise how stupid your statement over JRF was.

[Guest]

 

So come on, 5 pages in and we've not had a poverty role call. I'm in[/quote

 

Relatively, we're all in

[no balls]

 

Relatively, we're all in

but absolutely, we are all out

[little whitt]

 

So come on, 5 pages in and we've not had a poverty role call. I'm in[/quote

 

Relatively, we're all in

my mate text me at 8 .30 last night

 

got a Chinese hear too much for us

 

Loads lift nip round if you want it

 

so i did

 

next it will be Food Banks you watch

 

IM IN

[Spider]

So come on, 5 pages in and we've not had a poverty role call. I'm in

 

Not a single pair of tits or owt either.

 

This place is disappearing up its own arse.

[Carlos]

I've just paid my car insurance and spent a load on the house, plus 3 pairs of trainers so I'm hard up until pay day. Where is this food bank?

[no balls]

I put a bag of dry pasta & a few tins in the one at Clitheroe last week as well as some dog food in the the pet one. I reckon you could use that for a fray bentos pie if you snaffle them out of the box.

[Maggie Tate]

A food bank for fuckin pets????????????? Jesus wept.

[Sweep]

A food bank for fuckin pets????????????? Jesus wept.

 

If you're that hungry, could you not just eat your dog/cat?

[Youri McAnespie]

Having a dog? That's surely grounds for not being in poverty? If you were poor you'd have killed your dog humanely, then immediately ate their liver, stored the rest of the lites in a sock and smoked the legs and ribs over a fire made of rubbish.