Moderators Zico Posted December 14, 2015 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2015 Let him. Fuck me folk act like he is the best manager we have ever had This time a year a go he was one of the most promising ones we've had since coyle had us marching to a cup final and top 6 finish Then it went to shit Like it always does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 . Nah, back 21st Jan. So you'll miss the FA Cup replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) But we know how he would do. He won the league with Celtic He's a way better manager than the last two we've had. He gets it. He's been shafted pure and simple Edited December 14, 2015 by mickbrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's a way better manager than the last two we've had. He gets it. He's been shafted pure and simple 100% correct. I would love to know what Gartside told him to make him sign a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 14, 2015 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2015 100% correct. I would love to know what Gartside told him to make him sign a contract. Lennon was gagging for the gig; he even said at the time it was up to him to convince PG rather than the other way round Was probably a no brainer for the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 100% correct. I would love to know what Gartside told him to make him sign a contract. And the fact he's still here speaks volumes of the bloke, regardless of his fucking about with the back four. Lesser men would have fucked off months back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's desperately trying to find a formula but we just don't have the talent. Don't care how much they are paid our current squad is either crap or no heart.I genuinely would not miss any of them. Only Amos who is a decent keeper but probably on too much for us. Coyle and Freedman had money and signed crap players on contracts that are bleeding us dry. Lennon has had no money and signed crap players, not much else he could do but gamble with buttons. Glad to see other people speaking up about how he has been shafted. Some folk made excuse after excuse for Gartside who has left us in the shit but want to blame Lennon for our position? Can't afford to sack him but if this embarrassment goes on much longer he might walk. Be interesting to see what job with a little backing he could do elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) I remember him saying at the time he first came to the club that he'd not even discussed finances with the Chairman prior to taking the job. Even at the time I thought that sounded a bit odd. Either he was massively overconfident about his ability or he was telling porkies. That said - I still think he should stay in the job - if he left then we would 've looking at the Iain Dowie's of this world. Edited December 14, 2015 by kent_white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's fucking about with the shit he's bought. He's still here cause if he leaves off his own back he doesn't get a pay off. He's got a worse record than the last 3 clowns. He gets very little sympathy from me as his wage bill is still bigger than most of the league regardless of the cuts. If this was freedman, regardless of the finance, there'd be bed sheets painted all over the town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Stats speak for themselves shafted or not wank record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Think we should be doing better with the players we have tbh.Not pot breaking by any stretch but better than bottom of the league . The full back situation is the same as under Freedman ie bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passmosster Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 We aren't paying our staff or HMRC so what expenses are we paying at the mo? Or has our current cash flow from gates and TV money gone somewhere else ? Like Nucleus calling in a security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan.Kerr Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 These players should be good enough to get us out of the bottom three. Problem is their arses have gone, and every scrap of self respect, bottle, call it what you like, seems to have gone with it. I'll trot out the usual "we've been unlucky with injuries" but the truth is the table doesn't tell fibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted December 14, 2015 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2015 The squad we have are shite. We deserve bottom 3 and we are going down even if we have no points deduction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HR Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 These players should be good enough to get us out of the bottom three. Problem is their arses have gone, and every scrap of self respect, bottle, call it what you like, seems to have gone with it. I'll trot out the usual "we've been unlucky with injuries" but the truth is the table doesn't tell fibs. Don't disagree and with that scenario why not chuck a few kids in now, nothing to lose and possibly all we will have to feed off for the foreseeable. Can't think of many senior players I would shed tears over if they left for nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktrotter Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Everyone is entitled to their opinion and quite rightly so.these are very trying times for all concerned about our beloved Bolton wanderers football club.one thing in common despite different opinions what's gone wrong is that we all care.sadly as said before the league table doesn't lie.these set of players aren't good enough.talk all you want about confidence,which no doubt is a factor.the bookies had us down before the season started and yes I thought wtf are they on about.not all over yet I know,but can't for the life of me see a way out now. Been watching since 1973 . No reason to stop now.keep the faith boys and girls,seen it all before just not in the same frightening numbers. order.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 He's a way better manager than the last two we've had. He gets it. He's been shafted pure and simple Bollocks. He needed a new job in a proper league to improve his career. He isn't a good manager. i honestly don't know where you are getting that from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Bollocks. He needed a new job in a proper league to improve his career. He isn't a good manager. i honestly don't know where you are getting that from I don't know how we can reasonably judge that given the circumstances. He's gone from one of the easiest (if not easiest) in British football and straight into one of the most difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Bollocks. He needed a new job in a proper league to improve his career. He isn't a good manager. i honestly don't know where you are getting that from It's strange you slate Lennon so powerfully who's doing a job with little moral support or financial backing yet choose to defend the job done by Gartside which has brought us where we are today. Edited December 15, 2015 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It's strange you slate Lennon so powerfully who's doing a job with little moral support or financial backing yet choose to defend the job done by Gartside which has brought us where we are today. Spot on Mounts. EFA. How the hell can you judge whether or not he is a good manager with all the shit going on here? You can't. I think he will do a job when he is able to bring in players he actually wants but no one actually knows but to write him off is typical of some. The players are shite and very well paid shite at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 15, 2015 Moderators Share Posted December 15, 2015 I don't know how we can reasonably judge that given the circumstances. He's gone from one of the easiest (if not easiest) in British football and straight into one of the most difficult. He was doing alright under the circumstances last year Not as drastic as not getting paid admittedly but it's been dog shit most of the calendar year even when he had strikers and a potential game changer like clough Initial impact followed by seeming ineptitude, it happens Cash or no cash the squad isn't so bad to be in the league position it is, not if it was being managed right And paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 He was doing alright under the circumstances last year Not as drastic as not getting paid admittedly but it's been dog shit most of the calendar year even when he had strikers and a potential game changer like clough Initial impact followed by seeming ineptitude, it happens Cash or no cash the squad isn't so bad to be in the league position it is, not if it was being managed right And paid Have said before his record since Mjallby left is so bad it is incredible he is still in the job, I do feel sorry for him but he must only still be here because can not afford to sack him. I have now reached the stage where I find all this talk about anything to do with our form, our debt, our takeover in fact most things to do with the club totally fucking boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 15, 2015 Moderators Share Posted December 15, 2015 I have now reached the stage where I find all this talk about anything to do with our form, our debt, our takeover in fact most things to do with the club totally fucking boring. sad, isnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It's strange you slate Lennon so powerfully who's doing a job with little moral support or financial backing yet choose to defend the job done by Gartside which has brought us where we are today. Maybe. Show me where he has done well and I will consider it. We have been pretty shit when I have seen us. People act like we will be worse off without him. He has brought in poor players, players he doesn't play. I am not saying he has had it easy but isn't his key attribute getting the most out of poor sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrandt Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) So you'll miss the FA Cup replay.Tell them to put it back a bit. :lol:That's IF we get a draw. Anyway my plans might change. Edited December 15, 2015 by Rembrandt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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