salop wanderer Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Wanderer through and through but been working for a current League 1 club for 9 years now. In that time - most of it spent in L2 - I've seen a lot of lower league football and it's going to be really hard for us. There are plenty of good sides down here and clubs with bigger fan bases than ours that have struggled to make the kind of impact you might expect of a 'bigger club.' Coventry, Sheff United, Pompey are all decent examples of this. Macron will be the best stadium in the division and teams will raise their game against us. There are also some bloody good managers down there. Neil McDonald (now where did he come from?) is performing miracles at Blackpool, Nigel Adkins at the Blades, Clough continuing the good work done by JFH at Burton, Tony Mowbray, Phil Parkinson, somebody Brown... take your pick. Things are grim in BL6. Ultimately where I'm at right now, is that somehow we can come out of this with a football club to support and in its current guise. You can't let almost 140 years of history simply disappear and if relegation is the worst that comes out of this - even a double relegation - I'd rip your arm off for that. As an aside, I was reliably informed yesterday by someone who is highly regarded in the game and has fantastic contacts in Lancashire, that any LAND deals would go directly to ED and not to the football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Have we been relegated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Good post Salop. That is the reality we are facing, ideally I'd like to see us rebuild in league 1 with the good youngsters but it will be tough. The 80's were scarily similar, division 1 to division 4 in seven years, and we are on course to match that demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted January 17, 2016 Members Share Posted January 17, 2016 I think we will struggle for the first season in league 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Very tough league indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 17, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2016 Salop- when we're due to play your lot, is it all the mentalists off here round to yours for a BBQ and ale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Closed upper tiers weekly at home On the upside it'll be easier to get away from the Macron after the final whistle and you'll be able to get 3G every home game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Very tough league indeed In fairness, everybody says that about every division - they always claim the division they're in is a "tough one to get out of" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Most of the teams in league would have more than 2 wins if they had to play the same fixtures as us this season We have been dire and unless we get a bunch of players with a win mentality and desire I think we will struggle like Blackpool have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Closed upper tiers weekly at home On the upside it'll be easier to get away from the Macron after the final whistle and you'll be able to get 3G every home game Lots of fans have more than 3G on a matchday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 In fairness, everybody says that about every division - they always claim the division they're in is a "tough one to get out of" Ours is piss easy to get out of, even Lennon's managing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Closed upper tiers weekly at home On the upside it'll be easier to get away from the Macron after the final whistle and you'll be able to get 3G every home game 3G peasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 In fairness, everybody says that about every division - they always claim the division they're in is a "tough one to get out of" A higher proportion of teams get of of League One than the other divisions (more down than up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salop wanderer Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Tonge Moor - yeah but not next season as our lot are going down n all Edited January 17, 2016 by salop wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I just don't want any of this to be happening. It's like a living nightmare. We all speak about it every day but I still can't my head around how it's been allowed to happen. I posted in another thread but obviously I speak to quite a few Blackpool and Fleetwood fans and they say the quality is no different when comparing the bottom 7-8 in our league and top 7-8 in league 1. My biggest fear is going and not coming back. Like Salop says bigger fish than us have gone and are still rattling round there. The aways will be an adventure for the hardcore of course,but the homes will take any edge off that. It's going to be embarrassing and an awful experience on a weekly basis. If we somehow stave of admin,going into a league 1 season with this shower of shit bunch of cowards we have playing for us fills me with dread. They'll get twatted from pillar to post. It's going to take something remarkable for us to stay up now. Only a new manager bounce could save it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkev Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Don't worry we'll piss it and be unbeaten all season and there'll be some great away days???????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Don't worry we'll piss it and be unbeaten all season and there'll be some great away days where and when did i last hear that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 It's going to take something remarkable for us to stay up now. Only a new manager bounce could save it. We need some bouncebackability Iain Dowie is still resident in Horwich. Get him in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidjack Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 As you say Gonzo, it really is hard to comprehend how we've got to this point. And the fact nobody within the club has accepted responsibility for any of it, or given any kind of explanation, let alone offered an apology, for running our club into the ground makes things even worse. All those patronising statements from Gartside over the years whenever anyone questioned how we'd just lost £30m the previous year and £25m the year before that, even when the good times were in full swing and the TV money was flowing in..."it's not real debt, it's all thanks to Eddie - he's a saint you know, Bolton's number one fan, loves this club" blah fucking blah. Literally anybody off the street with absolutely no business sense whatsoever couldn't have made a worse job of it. Totally beggars belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted January 17, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2016 Iain Dowie is still resident in Horwich. The fashionable town or WW Mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Don't want to contemplate going back to 3rd tier 5000 crowds and Johnstone paint trophy, can't think the macron sustainable at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The fashionable town or WW Mod? Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 17, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2016 As you say Gonzo, it really is hard to comprehend how we've got to this point. And the fact nobody within the club has accepted responsibility for any of it, or given any kind of explanation, let alone offered an apology, for running our club into the ground makes things even worse. All those patronising statements from Gartside over the years whenever anyone questioned how we'd just lost £30m the previous year and £25m the year before that, even when the good times were in full swing and the TV money was flowing in..."it's not real debt, it's all thanks to Eddie - he's a saint you know, Bolton's number one fan, loves this club" blah fucking blah. Literally anybody off the street with absolutely no business sense whatsoever couldn't have made a worse job of it. Totally beggars belief. The debt you ramble on about was not and is not an issue Only the recent debt and our cash flow is the problem Cash flow deficit that you amongst others were arguing should be added to only months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 17, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2016 Don't want to contemplate going back to 3rd tier 5000 crowds and Johnstone paint trophy, can't think the macron sustainable at that level. Said this before but I wonder at what level it is sustainable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyoneawalker Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We need a manager with experience at that level absolutely essential aswell as getting some players in who know how the league works in and around our you'uns - Phil brown Keith hill and when wolves pot him kenny jacket good candidates for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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