Moderators Zico Posted December 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 12, 2016 cheers, nice reference that concentrates your mind a bit about what would be a good fee for our players KA got some stick for only getting 2.5 million for a lad who had played half a season its in the top 20 fees ever out of this division! and as much as i like clough, delle alli was playing for england months after his move The lad never stepped foot in this division so you'd have to compare him to championship fees And what they paid for him was more likely relative to our financial predicament and not the league he was playing in our level of performance As demonstrated by the clough fee we accepted, he was worth more than 2m and even more to us now, so it's a good job it was him who turned it down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 12, 2016 As long as we keep our defence we will go up even without clough IMO, won't be pretty. But losing spearing or beevers would be worse than clough I don't want to (or think we will) lose any of them but reckon we could cover losing beevers and spearing adequately enough to aim for a top 2 finish from the squad we've currently got, but not clough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 12, 2016 The lad never stepped foot in this division so you'd have to compare him to championship fees And what they paid for him was more likely relative to our financial predicament and not the league he was playing in our level of performance As demonstrated by the clough fee we accepted, he was worth more than 2m and even more to us now, so it's a good job it was him who turned it down i disagree - we were selling him as a skint team in division 3 i agree our financial predicament has a bearing on fees, just like any other club in this division - go up a league and if your wages stay the same, you are more able to turn down offers, pushing up the fee specifically on clough, i reckon most teams in division 2 could better what we pay him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 12, 2016 i disagree - we were selling him as a skint team in division 3 i agree our financial predicament has a bearing on fees, just like any other club in this division - go up a league and if your wages stay the same, you are more able to turn down offers, pushing up the fee specifically on clough, i reckon most teams in division 2 could better what we pay him No point in comparing his fee to players who played at this level, they will have been scouted against league one opposition, he wasn't, can't imagine we'd have got more if we'd stayed up But we agree the fee wasnt related to ability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) i disagree - we were selling him as a skint team in division 3 i agree our financial predicament has a bearing on fees, just like any other club in this division - go up a league and if your wages stay the same, you are more able to turn down offers, pushing up the fee specifically on clough, i reckon most teams in division 2 could better what we pay him Edited December 12, 2016 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Pickled Onion Ringos... Too far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I don't want to (or think we will) lose any of them but reckon we could cover losing beevers and spearing adequately enough to aim for a top 2 finish from the squad we've currently got, but not clough Clough refused to leave when we were MORE financially knackered than we are now. Even if the club accept an offer, unless it's for a BIG team, I don't think he'll go. He's Bolton through-and-through, that lad. Loves to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 It was an offer from Bristol city. As I recall he went down there but decided he it wouldn't advance his career much Not sure what you mean by a big club, but as you put it in capitals I assume you mean a premier league team. But say if a Brighton or Derby came in for him and they are aiming at promotion do you not reckon he'd be off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted December 13, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 13, 2016 Clough didnt move because his Mrs was starting uni in Liverpool He wont be moving unless its to a team that means he doesnt have to move away Fear a Leeds bid!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted December 13, 2016 Members Share Posted December 13, 2016 I can't see it. Where have you read that? I haven't mate. Had a Brizzle City fan in my office the other day installing a new phone system. He noticed the BWFC stuff around the office and said they were after one of our midfielders and were 'coming in again for him'. I hope it is all bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I haven't mate. Had a Brizzle City fan in my office the other day installing a new phone system. He noticed the BWFC stuff around the office and said they were after one of our midfielders and were 'coming in again for him'. I hope it is all bollocks. Comes the something when a Bristol City fan thinks they can start playing the' big club circling your best players' card :-) Here's hoping that midfielder is Liam Trotter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 "We can come and take anything from your tawdry little club any time we want" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 13, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2016 Right, its coming to that time, who do you want to see come in and who are you happy to let go? Trotter out, and if possible Anderson back, (and if possible swap his loan for chungy). Possibly another target man in- an exerienced head to come off bench if required; a bit like Cunningham did all those years back- got us over the line. A bit far field and obviously money would be an issue, but Peter "freak" Crouch on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Chungy?????? Not a chance. I reckon this kid we're on about getting from Liverpool is very much in the Clough mould which worries me. I'd be happy to lose Moxey, Trotter, Dervite and Pratley to free up some wages. In terms of who we bring in - I'm fairly happy as things stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 13, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 13, 2016 Chungy?????? Not a chance. not just me, then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) i disagree - we were selling him as a skint team in division 3 i agree our financial predicament has a bearing on fees, just like any other club in this division - go up a league and if your wages stay the same, you are more able to turn down offers, pushing up the fee specifically on clough, i reckon most teams in division 2 could better what we pay him Do you mean championship or league 2? Agree championships would pay him more but league 2 no chance, hasn't he signed new contract recently?http://mobile.bwfc.co.uk//news/article/zach-clough-signs-contract-extension-2751316.aspx Would imagine his new contract would be championship type wages. Edited December 13, 2016 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Right, its coming to that time, who do you want to see come in and who are you happy to let go? Trotter out, and if possible Anderson back, (and if possible swap his loan for chungy). Possibly another target man in- an exerienced head to come off bench if required; a bit like Cunningham did all those years back- got us over the line. A bit far field and obviously money would be an issue, but Peter "freak" Crouch on loan. Crouch would be brilliant not happening though, how about ALF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 13, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 13, 2016 Do you mean championship or league 2? Agree championships would pay him more but league 2 no chance, hasn't he signed new contract recently? http://mobile.bwfc.co.uk//news/article/zach-clough-signs-contract-extension-2751316.aspx Would imagine his new contract would be championship type wages. championship = division 2 hes not on big money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Crouch would be brilliant not happening though, how about ALF? He's already on a season long loan at Wigan isn't he? - although I don't think he's actually getting any game time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Right, its coming to that time, who do you want to see come in and who are you happy to let go? Trotter out, and if possible Anderson back, (and if possible swap his loan for chungy). Possibly another target man in- an exerienced head to come off bench if required; a bit like Cunningham did all those years back- got us over the line. A bit far field and obviously money would be an issue, but Peter "freak" Crouch on loan. Mentalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted December 13, 2016 Members Share Posted December 13, 2016 Comes the something when a Bristol City fan thinks they can start playing the' big club circling your best players' card :-) Here's hoping that midfielder is Liam Trotter. Agree all round. Nar then cocker, didst get me PM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Agree all round. Nar then cocker, didst get me PM? No thy didnst? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 championship = division 2 hes not on big money A lot of clubs with Premiership money via parachute payments and a few others with speculative owners (Derby, Bristol City) splashing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Chungy?????? Not a chance. I reckon this kid we're on about getting from Liverpool is very much in the Clough mould which worries me. I'd be happy to lose Moxey, Trotter, Dervite and Pratley to free up some wages. In terms of who we bring in - I'm fairly happy as things stand. I would keep Pratley, but agree with Moxey, Dervite & Trotter. I'd like us to get shut of C Taylor & Proctor too, if possible and bring in better players as they have really been quite shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 13, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would keep Pratley, but agree with Moxey, Dervite & Trotter. I'd like us to get shut of C Taylor & Proctor too, if possible and bring in better players as they have really been quite shit! Pratley still able to contribute but would you change the side? If we could save his wages might be worth the gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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